Needlework Tips

Dianne Lewandowski wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:40:16 -0500, Dianne Lewandowski
wrote:

wrote:
In your haste to advertise you had the credits completely wrong,
Dawn(e) did not say she avoided kits.
It's curmudgeons like you that make it difficult to have a fun
conversation. It's curmudgeons like you that have chased away so
many designers and authors of needlework through the years. You're
unrelenting. I hope Dyan keeps it up in spite of your hatefulness.

Dianne

I really fail to see how you can overlook the fact that she bobs up
here solely for her own benefit. I understood that rctmarketplace is
the group for advertising ones wares, and that came about because rctn
did not want ads.
Usenet is one of the few places nowadays where one can read and NOT be
hit by advertising, long may it be so.
I can't say I cared for MLI, she was another who was totally
self-centred, just showed up when she had a new chart on the go but I
don't believe I said a word at the time, didn't have to, plenty of
others did.
So, go on Dianne, tell me which designers and authors of needlework I
have chased away. Your imagination is working overtime, or are you
just feeling spiteful tonight ? I won't say I have always made nice
posts, but chasing designers away ? Give me proof, an old post,
something you recall that I posted - because I am very certain you
can't.

I didn't single you out. I used the term curmudgeon to signify anyone
who has chased away designers, authors, needlework stores. Read our
by-laws. They specifically allow this type of thing. All your sneering
does is make people uncomfortable. You've made your point. You don't
care for it. But it's not disallowed as long as it's helpful to
stitchers. We're tolerant here at RCTN in order to have a rapport with
those who brings us wonderful things.

The mystery writer has been chased out and denigrated (though I think
she's posting again), and any number of others who have livened our
newsgroup through the years.

You do not speak for the group as a whole. Stop demanding that you be
the spokesperson who sets the rules. You aren't. You don't.

Dianne

Living in a place where a needlework store is very far from local, I
really appreciate posts like Dyan's. I don't read the marketplace
group, as I know I would never be able to afford to buy anything there,
so this group is the only place I see new designs, whether by Dyan's
posts, or those of people who give links to designs.

We have definitely lost a great deal of pleasure in this group, and like
Dianne, I believe it's because of the constant carping - and no, I can't
give instances, I don't hold on to unpleasant things.

Like some others, I rarely post, because the unpleasant ones make me
feel I have nothing to say that would counteract them. So I say nothing.

Joyce in RSA.

Dianne Lewandowski wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:40:16 -0500, Dianne Lewandowski
wrote:

wrote:
In your haste to advertise you had the credits completely wrong,
Dawn(e) did not say she avoided kits.
It's curmudgeons like you that make it difficult to have a fun
conversation. It's curmudgeons like you that have chased away so
many designers and authors of needlework through the years. You're
unrelenting. I hope Dyan keeps it up in spite of your hatefulness.

Dianne

I really fail to see how you can overlook the fact that she bobs up
here solely for her own benefit. I understood that rctmarketplace is
the group for advertising ones wares, and that came about because rctn
did not want ads.
Usenet is one of the few places nowadays where one can read and NOT be
hit by advertising, long may it be so.
I can't say I cared for MLI, she was another who was totally
self-centred, just showed up when she had a new chart on the go but I
don't believe I said a word at the time, didn't have to, plenty of
others did.
So, go on Dianne, tell me which designers and authors of needlework I
have chased away. Your imagination is working overtime, or are you
just feeling spiteful tonight ? I won't say I have always made nice
posts, but chasing designers away ? Give me proof, an old post,
something you recall that I posted - because I am very certain you
can't.

I didn't single you out. I used the term curmudgeon to signify anyone
who has chased away designers, authors, needlework stores. Read our
by-laws. They specifically allow this type of thing. All your sneering
does is make people uncomfortable. You've made your point. You don't
care for it. But it's not disallowed as long as it's helpful to
stitchers. We're tolerant here at RCTN in order to have a rapport with
those who brings us wonderful things.

The mystery writer has been chased out and denigrated (though I think
she's posting again), and any number of others who have livened our
newsgroup through the years.

You do not speak for the group as a whole. Stop demanding that you be
the spokesperson who sets the rules. You aren't. You don't.

Dianne

Living in a place where a needlework store is very far from local, I
really appreciate posts like Dyan's. I don't read the marketplace
group, as I know I would never be able to afford to buy anything there,
so this group is the only place I see new designs, whether by Dyan's
posts, or those of people who give links to designs.

We have definitely lost a great deal of pleasure in this group, and like
Dianne, I believe it's because of the constant carping - and no, I can't
give instances, I don't hold on to unpleasant things.

Like some others, I rarely post, because the unpleasant ones make me
feel I have nothing to say that would counteract them. So I say nothing.

Joyce in RSA.

joycem wrote:
Dianne Lewandowski wrote:
wrote:
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 13:40:16 -0500, Dianne Lewandowski
wrote:

wrote:
In your haste to advertise you had the credits completely wrong,
Dawn(e) did not say she avoided kits.
It's curmudgeons like you that make it difficult to have a fun
conversation. It's curmudgeons like you that have chased away so
many designers and authors of needlework through the years. You're
unrelenting. I hope Dyan keeps it up in spite of your hatefulness.

Dianne

I really fail to see how you can overlook the fact that she bobs up
here solely for her own benefit. I understood that rctmarketplace is
the group for advertising ones wares, and that came about because rctn
did not want ads.
Usenet is one of the few places nowadays where one can read and NOT be
hit by advertising, long may it be so.
I can't say I cared for MLI, she was another who was totally
self-centred, just showed up when she had a new chart on the go but I
don't believe I said a word at the time, didn't have to, plenty of
others did.
So, go on Dianne, tell me which designers and authors of needlework I
have chased away. Your imagination is working overtime, or are you
just feeling spiteful tonight ? I won't say I have always made nice
posts, but chasing designers away ? Give me proof, an old post,
something you recall that I posted - because I am very certain you
can't.

I didn't single you out. I used the term curmudgeon to signify anyone
who has chased away designers, authors, needlework stores. Read our
by-laws. They specifically allow this type of thing. All your
sneering does is make people uncomfortable. You've made your point.
You don't care for it. But it's not disallowed as long as it's
helpful to stitchers. We're tolerant here at RCTN in order to have a
rapport with those who brings us wonderful things.

The mystery writer has been chased out and denigrated (though I think
she's posting again), and any number of others who have livened our
newsgroup through the years.

You do not speak for the group as a whole. Stop demanding that you be
the spokesperson who sets the rules. You aren't. You don't.

Dianne

Living in a place where a needlework store is very far from local, I
really appreciate posts like Dyan's. I don't read the marketplace
group, as I know I would never be able to afford to buy anything there,
so this group is the only place I see new designs, whether by Dyan's
posts, or those of people who give links to designs.

We have definitely lost a great deal of pleasure in this group, and like
Dianne, I believe it's because of the constant carping - and no, I can't
give instances, I don't hold on to unpleasant things.

Like some others, I rarely post, because the unpleasant ones make me
feel I have nothing to say that would counteract them. So I say nothing.

Joyce in RSA.
Sorry, the first post said it hadn't been delivered.

Joyce in RSA.

Joyce can`t you subscribe to some Magazine ? here we can`t find so
many kits like they have in USA , we see more the printed cnvasses and
the threads,,,
mirjam

Dawne Peterson wrote:
I agree with you on kits, and hey, I agree you are not too sane, as you
appear to want to poke Sheena with a pointed stick, but hey, we love you
anyway

Something else I like is a kitted up accessory pack--I bought this for a
Jeannette Douglas sampler and it saved me endless time and money looking for
specialty threads in colours I would not ordinarily use, and a couple of
good buttons. I also like the way some designers, (Just Nan is one I have
experience with) add a charm to a chart--charms are one thing that most
stashes don't have, and sometimes the right one just makes the design. (Just
thought I would keep the "kits or not kits" discussion going)

Dawne

Now, about the buying charts that supply specialty fiber and bead,
etc. packs -- I'm all over the book on that. If it's just a charm or a
button you have to pay for with the chart, I might go ahead and buy it.
If the specialty stuff is for a chart I am stitching for someone else,
I am on a deadline and I don't particularly like the colours, then I
will likely buy the whole thing. If the included little packet has
fibers or beads in colors I reality like and don't have (identical as
called for or a good substitute), then I am likely to buy the chart
*without* the accessory pack. This gives me a legitimate reason for
more S.E.X. and I can go buy all those new fibers, etc. I do this over
time so, while the cost might be a whole lot more than the original
accessory pack would have been, I will have all those lovely new fibers,
beads, etc. in my stash :-).
I do agree about the specific included charms with charts --
especially Just Nan's. I LOVE her designs and the little charms that
are usually in her designs can be a bear to find! She lives and has her
shop here in Cumming, GA where I live so you'd think my not so LNS would
have *every* charm she calls for but that's not the case!
Another designer I like who will include bits of stuff in an
accessory pack is Thea Dueck (is that correct spelling???). I also love
her designs -- *everything* from Victoria's Sampler -- especially the
ones with some silk ribbon embroidery. I have a lot of ribbon but not
every known color so, when she includes a bit of the ribbon called for,
I don't mind paying the extra price. Unlike most floss, it's
unbelievably difficult to find in stock silk ribbon at either my LNS or
the OLS I frequent. Just about always, it has to be special ordered and
I end up waiting weeks for it.
As for being not too sane, what can I say? Sheena and I haven't had
a good "set to" in ages. Either my "poke" will be ignored or a "nice"
response will be elicited; I might make one additional response and
that'll be it from MOI. I don't argue with Sheena about personal
opinions for more than one or two posts.

PAX, Tia Mary ^;;^ (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about
their whiskers!
Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary

mirjam wrote:
Joyce can`t you subscribe to some Magazine ? here we can`t find so
many kits like they have in USA , we see more the printed cnvasses and
the threads,,,
mirjam

Stitching magazines from overseas are way beyond my budget, and local
ones don't have the os designers represented. Not that it worries me,
as I probably have more patterns in my stash than I'll ever finish.

I just like looking at what is available when there's an opportunity,
such as a web address or link.

Joyce in RSA.

wrote:
Thinking back, the last time Jan Eaton posted thanking me for
suggesting her book Dianne very rudely posted that the book was not a
patch on some other book she preferred in the same genre. That sure
put Jan off posting again !

First, I'm allowed to say that I felt Jan Eaton's new work (I have it)
on Mary Thomas's original work in the 30s changed the directions for a
French knot which was disappointing and wrong-headed. I pointed out a
couple other examples that disappointed me, as well complained that some
of the embroideries used for illustration could have been better
examples. I doubt my post made Jan Eaton never post again. She fired
back that she had the okay of the nephew. I kept her post for a very
long time. But I doubt that my comments made her stop posting here. In
fact, I don't think she ever posted before that. If she did, it was
uncommon.

You're upset that I pointed out that you don't speak for the group. You
don't. Period. You seem to be after Dyan even when she contributes.
It's allowed. So why do you continue to act in this manner?

Dianne

wrote:
No, you're not too sane that's for sure. Just because you are in an
'ornery mood' that seems to be your excuse. However, neither you
nor Dianne were able to point to my posts that allegedly drove away
designers and authors of needlework.

Now, you know I don't need an "excuse" for disagreeing with you, I
just wanted to mention my ornery mood at the time. Lots of times I
don't agree and don't say anything because it's just not worth it. It's
not posting opinions that's the problem, it's the tone. When I read
what you post, it's not that you are disagreeing or taking someone to
task, it what I see as a very negative, demeaning, just plain mean
"tone" to your words. I don't want to go back and quote what you just
wrote about Dyan's posts -- that's more trouble than it's worth -- but
if you had just been a bit more polite (for want of a better word at the
moment) it wouldn't go against the grain as much. CiaoMeow ^;;^

PAX, Tia Mary ^;;^ (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about
their whiskers!
Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary

wrote:

...snipped.... Now rctnp was a
different thing, had to be monitored and the girl who set it up
originally wanted out when she had her baby. Nobody would stand up
and in the end she emailed me and asked me outright, would I. So I
did, rather than see it disappear. Even there though, the only thing
I control is ads - anybody who wants to join can, I pass no judgement
though I do frequently when they ask to join pose a question that
shows immediately if advertising is their thing.

It seems you do quite a good job, too. You know, I STILL can't get
that *(&*$&^%#$*^ system to let me in -- VBS! Every now and again it
does and I can't just re-join because it tells me that I already belong!
Can you make the system dump me (OOOO you get a chance to dump me,
isn't that a hoot)? If I was dumped from the list by you -- the
moderator -- THEN maybe I could ask to re-join. Would that work?
CiaoMeow ^;;^

PAX, Tia Mary ^;;^ (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about
their whiskers!
Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary

On 10/18/09 9:27 AM, "Tia Mary" wrote:

Dawne Peterson wrote:
I agree with you on kits, and hey, I agree you are not too sane, as you
appear to want to poke Sheena with a pointed stick, but hey, we love you
anyway

Something else I like is a kitted up accessory pack--I bought this for a
Jeannette Douglas sampler and it saved me endless time and money looking for
specialty threads in colours I would not ordinarily use, and a couple of
good buttons. I also like the way some designers, (Just Nan is one I have
experience with) add a charm to a chart--charms are one thing that most
stashes don't have, and sometimes the right one just makes the design. (Just
thought I would keep the "kits or not kits" discussion going)

Dawne

Now, about the buying charts that supply specialty fiber and bead,
etc. packs -- I'm all over the book on that. If it's just a charm or a
button you have to pay for with the chart, I might go ahead and buy it.
If the specialty stuff is for a chart I am stitching for someone else,
I am on a deadline and I don't particularly like the colours, then I
will likely buy the whole thing. If the included little packet has
fibers or beads in colors I reality like and don't have (identical as
called for or a good substitute), then I am likely to buy the chart
*without* the accessory pack. This gives me a legitimate reason for
more S.E.X. and I can go buy all those new fibers, etc. I do this over
time so, while the cost might be a whole lot more than the original
accessory pack would have been, I will have all those lovely new fibers,
beads, etc. in my stash :-).

I agree with you about buying the charms, usually. I like when they're
included. Even some with the fun buttons -the packs are sold separately,
but at the shop we'd frequently bundle them with the chart. WRT thread, I
think for a lot of people that don't have stash of specialty threads, or
aren't sure if they'll like them, or want to invest in a lot of silk, it's a
great way to have them for a project, try them, etc. It may be a higher per
piece kind of price (in terms of $/inch of silk) than buying skeins, but if
you're not ready to start stashing silk, Trebizond, some special metallic,
etc then it's a convenient economy.

I do agree about the specific included charms with charts --
especially Just Nan's. I LOVE her designs and the little charms that
are usually in her designs can be a bear to find! She lives and has her
shop here in Cumming, GA where I live so you'd think my not so LNS would
have *every* charm she calls for but that's not the case!

IIRC some of her charts just come with the charm, most when you order from
the wholesaler you can order a 3-pack of the charms and just attach them,
pricing it all together.

Another designer I like who will include bits of stuff in an
accessory pack is Thea Dueck (is that correct spelling???). I also love
her designs -- *everything* from Victoria's Sampler -- especially the
ones with some silk ribbon embroidery. I have a lot of ribbon but not
every known color so, when she includes a bit of the ribbon called for,
I don't mind paying the extra price. Unlike most floss, it's
unbelievably difficult to find in stock silk ribbon at either my LNS or
the OLS I frequent. Just about always, it has to be special ordered and
I end up waiting weeks for it.

Thea does a fine job with her accessory packs. They can be quite pricey,
but I like that she breaks them up - many of her charts will have multiple
packs - so if you just need the colors, but have a bunch of white silk in
different weights, you can just get the colored thread pack. Or the one
with the beads, etc. The pack descriptions tell you what is in them - which
is helpful.

As for being not too sane, what can I say? Sheena and I haven't had
a good "set to" in ages. Either my "poke" will be ignored or a "nice"
response will be elicited; I might make one additional response and
that'll be it from MOI. I don't argue with Sheena about personal
opinions for more than one or two posts.

PAX, Tia Mary ^;;^ (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)

You just made me grin...such is life at RCTN.

On a totally irrelevant topic - we were at G-Street today, and I got a
closer look at the Bernina quilting frame. It's really, really, tempting -
only if several other things drop into place. They had it set up with a QE
machine instead of the longer necked 830. Worked just fine. Very nice.
And the store manager said she's selling it with a 25% discount minimum.

Ellice