LQS Complaints--Other shoe; same foot.

well, you opened a can'o'worms with that one! :-)

chris

:-)

Oh, never! They are not naughty enough to warrant 'gator
discipline!!

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"Polly Esther" wrote in message
k.net...
: Don't even think about sending us your students. Polly
:
: "Cats" wrote You might just be surprised in the mail one
day!! ROFL
:
:
:

I live on a large block with lots of yard space and the
neighbours on either side asked if their kids could continue
to play in the front part of the yard as they had when the
block was empty. I said sure - as long as they understand
the rules. Stay off the garden, don't run around the house
area (a bit dangerous), no throwing stones, don't tease the
cats.

Everything was fine but then new neighbours arrived on one
side.

When the kids bring me my mail (to save me hobbling down to
the mail box) they get a candy - if it is not right before a
meal time and their mums say it is OK. New kid comes to the
door and asks for candy, drops wrappers on the ground and
throws stones. I corrected him very politely in front of
the others and he ran home to tell his "dad" (actually
"partner" of mum of course) and "dad" came racing over and
practically put his fist through my glass door, shouting
"Don't pick on my kid".

Sadly I haven't seen any of the kids for over a week now so
I imagine that the obnoxious neighbours have told the nice
neighbours some dreadful tale about me abusing children. I
will drop in and see T and straighten out any
misunderstanding, but I feel sorry for the child of the
other parents. What chance do they have with such an
example? He now believes that he can do whatever he wants
and that no-one will stop him because his "dad" will
threaten them if they do. ((sigh))

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"blackrosequilts" wrote in
message ...
: Valerie in FL wrote:
: I got bonked on the head with a spoon wielded by a
3-year-old in a
: restaurant last week. I didn't even get an apology from
her parents, so this
: is absolutely a sore subject with me.
:
: That's outrageous. An unruly small kid hit me at a parish
picnic, back
: when my kids were small and I was holding a toy the kid
thought was his
: (but actually belonged to us). The mother didn't
apologize. The
: grandfather picked him up and the kid proceeded to pummel
his
: grandfather's bald pate. They made no attempt to control
this violence.
: Easy to see why the kid felt free to punch a strange
adult.
:
: More recently, I have a new neighbor with an unruly
toddler that hauled
: off and hit my dog while my dog was playing with their new
puppy (my dog
: is still a puppy herself). Fortunately Rommi flinched
away in time to
: miss the full force of the blow, so she wasn't badly hurt,
but at four
: pounds, she's a tiny dog and even a small child can
seriously injure
: her. The mother did apologize, but she did absolutely
nothing to
: control her child. The kid ran around completely ignoring
her. The
: puppy is half husky and clearly of a naturally dominant
disposition, and
: she wasn't doing anything about that either. Gonna be
interesting to
: see how *that* plays out.
:
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:
: blackrosequilts
: My train of thought left the station without me.
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Re "teaching", Michelle said:

You couldn't pay me enough to do that job.


Funny. I'll take next to nothing. In a poor district. Trying to teach
teenagers Shakespeare.

But no one will hire me because I hugged a student and got fired for it.

Some of us REALLY want to do it, but it's administrators and parents who
want to demonize the TEACHER instead of the kids who keep us from being able
to do what we love.

Anastasia

--still a bit bitter.

Cats wrote:
I live on a large block with lots of yard space and the
neighbours on either side asked if their kids could continue
to play in the front part of the yard as they had when the
block was empty. I said sure - as long as they understand
the rules. Stay off the garden, don't run around the house
area (a bit dangerous), no throwing stones, don't tease the
cats.

We hadn't lived here a week when some kid made himself at home in our
back yard and tried to tell my youngest son he couldn't play there.
Then he tried to tell me that since the people we bought the house from
had told him he could play in the yard, I couldn't tell him not to.

He was so shocked when I laid down the law that I'm not sure an adult
had ever stood up to him before. But I know how to handle adolescent
boys, having had plenty of my own. I sent him packing. He only tried
to enter my yard one more time, and I was there to send him packing
again. I never saw him again after that.

Some kids. Sheesh.

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Mine was just through here tonight. She said those scary words, "I was just
thinking". Actually she was 'just thinking' that I might like to go with
her to the big, Big book store in Alabama to see what new quilting books
were calling us. Ahhhh. What a relief. Polly

"Cats" wrote Oh, never! They are not naughty enough to warrant 'gator
discipline!!

For some kids a parent has to have a higher "unruly" tolerance than
for others.
It only took a few times for my girls to get the message that such
behavior was inappropriate in a public place.
Ash on the other hand is a problem. We don't want to always keep him
home, because he will never learn then. However he does have a longer
learning curve for such things because of the lack of communication
and the socialization issues that most autistic kids have. It is
always very wearing to take him out anywhere. He has a thing for
textures, so he wants to touch absolutely everything. He also has
that high pitched "autistic squeal" that can make people at the other
end of a mall cringe. So far no public tantrums (touch wood), though
I have wished we could just chain him to one of our waists or
something while we are out.

NightMist


On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:21:26 GMT, "Batik Freak"
wrote:

Yes, it does mean they are unruly. Why do you think that allowing your
children to roam and yell is ok? That's ridiculous. I don't go to a quilt
store to listen to a kid scream. If you can't control 'em, keep 'em at home
until you can. It's just not fair of parents to inflict their children on
others, period. People go out to stores and such to ESCAPE their children
sometimes, to have grown-up time for themselves. Other people just plain
don't like ill-mannered children. If you take them in public it is your
DUTY as a parent to keep them with you, quiet and well-behaved. This is the
way one behaves properly in public, and to allow otherwise is bad teaching.

L

Anita said:
If I may interject... is it so bad to bring
: unruly children into a store? I mean, does
: the fact that children roam, crawl, and yell
: make them unruly? I do not mean to be
: facetious (or maybe I am just being defensive),
: but we often go to our LQS as a whole family.
: DH sits on the floor and tries to keep the two
: kids under control. But, kids crawl and roam.
: Sometimes they yell. We do not permit them to
: touch the fabric, walls, displays, anything.



--
The wolf that understands fire has much to eat.

You can. Mothers only have two hands and that is not enough to keep a
little one (or more) safe when shopping. We had a leash - it looked very
much like suspenders with a serious leash thing fixed to the back waist.
That way, I could be somewhat sure that he wouldn't dart into the path of an
oncoming car or stray from my side. That was more than 50 years ago but I
don't remember a single soul being anything but wanting to know where a
similar harness could be purchased. If anyone had accused me of cruel or
inhuman treatment, we would have bonked them with a spoon. Polly

"NightMist" wrote, in part So far no public tantrums (touch wood), though
I have wished we could just chain him to one of our waists or
something while we are out.

On Thu, 15 Jun 2006 22:21:26 GMT, "Batik Freak"
wrote:

Yes, it does mean they are unruly. Why do you think that allowing your
children to roam and yell is ok? That's ridiculous. I don't go to a quilt
store to listen to a kid scream. If you can't control 'em, keep 'em at home
until you can. It's just not fair of parents to inflict their children on
others, period. People go out to stores and such to ESCAPE their children
sometimes, to have grown-up time for themselves. Other people just plain
don't like ill-mannered children. If you take them in public it is your
DUTY as a parent to keep them with you, quiet and well-behaved. This is the
way one behaves properly in public, and to allow otherwise is bad teaching.

Ah well, we can never go out again, then!
Pillbug emits a screech every now and then,
which is his way of communicating. If he
screams, of course we remove him. We have
done so many times. But, he's a kid. He
likes to roam around a store looking at
everything (of course, he's *never* out of our
sight), he doesn't touch anything, but every
now and then he sees something that excites
him and he gives a screech or two. The LQS
staff like to talk to DH while he's holding
Rocky and watching Pillbug, but we should not
be going if we will be bothering the other
customers.

-- Anita --

NightMist wrote:
For some kids a parent has to have a higher "unruly" tolerance than
for others.
It only took a few times for my girls to get the message that such
behavior was inappropriate in a public place.
Ash on the other hand is a problem. We don't want to always keep him
home, because he will never learn then. However he does have a longer
learning curve for such things because of the lack of communication
and the socialization issues that most autistic kids have. It is
always very wearing to take him out anywhere. He has a thing for
textures, so he wants to touch absolutely everything. He also has
that high pitched "autistic squeal" that can make people at the other
end of a mall cringe. So far no public tantrums (touch wood), though
I have wished we could just chain him to one of our waists or
something while we are out.

NightMist

G'day NightMist,

Sometimes, it can help to have a Good Texture handy for the child to
take refuge in. My DS used to *shriek* in shopping malls when he was a
toddler. It wasn't until years later we discovered it was the muzak that
upset him. Also the sound of the fluorescent lights. Anyway, I had a
T-Shirt on which I had worked a cross stitch pattern in beads. The motif
had that nice 'beady' feel to it and DS used to rub his hand over that
for comfort. His shrieking level was noticeably lower when he had his
his beads to rub. DS still has his various comfort things to do, even at
thirty. One of them is *violent* hand-flapping. Thank goodness he's
socially aware enough to do it in private.

Mostly...! LOL!

NB. How old is Ash? IME, it was worth pulling out all stops to find care
for DS while I went shopping. He really couldn't cope with the sights
and sounds of shopping malls until he was about ten or so. After that,
he was fine. The only thing that really upsets him these days is
balloons. He assumes every balloon can and will burst. It can be quite
unusual to see a grown man sidling nervously away from a baby with a
balloon in its hand. ROTFL!

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Trish {|:-} Newcastle, NSW, Australia