+rading viking fee+ - ques+ion for viking owners

Because some people (and probably some applications) feel better using a walking
foot. It depends on your skills, and what you are used to. If you learn to adapt
without the walking foot then you may never need it. I remember when the
walking/evenfeed feet started getting big play on the market, didn't understand
the need for them for my self because I had adapted to not having one and getting
the results I wanted anyway. But I have taught people who didn't want to take the
time to learn some specific techniques to get the same results.
So there is a place for them, but you don't *have* to have one. Remember many
quilts were machine quilted on older machines, when they were brand new, without a
walking foot.

Pati, in Phx.

DrQuilter wrote:

thanks for the input momo.... since I am a scientist after I posted I
had to go do an experiment so I just finished machine quilting a cheater
I spy panel that was given to me for my daugther sofi by a well intended
aunt who thought she would make a quilt for her and then changed her
mind, and I have to admit that after I threaded it correctly (duh!) I
did not miss the walking foot at all. Why make a walking foot if it
wasn't necessary? to make money from ususpecting quilters I guess?

MOMO wrote:
Hello the

I'm new to this group 'cause I'm a beginner quilter. Thank you all for the
valuable information.

My machine is a Viking Designer I.

About the quilter's table, I must say that I am very disappointed. My DH
got me one for my Bday, but I had to return it because it was cracked in
each of the holes that are there to help you make circular stitches. The
replacement they gave me is cracked as well. I'll be returning it this
week, and ordered a Sew Steady clear Lucite portable table from Nancy.
According to my quilting teahcer it is very good. It would extend the
sewing machine by as much as 24". Can't wait to try it out.

Like I said, I'm a beginner quilter and found the Viking walking foot to be
very convenient. Wonder why the sales person said it wasn't necessary? Is
there a trick to quilting without the walking foot? Why make a walking foot
then?

I've made buttonholes with the "expensive looking" foot. Making equally
sized buttonholes with it is a snap as opposed to the simple foot.

I haven't tried the Free motion grip, but my teacher says it is a waste of
time, effort, and $. I'm using gloves (also purchased from Nancy). They're
the white kind "Machingers" brand. Excellent: You can pick up a penny.

Saludos
Momo


"DrQuilter" wrote in message
...

my viking came wi+h an expensive looking bu++onhole foo+ bu+ no walking
foo+ or acrylic aplique foo+. +he dealer promised I don'+ need +he walking
foo+, which cos+s around 85 bucks, or any o+her par+ of +he quil+ers ki+
(for example she said she ha+es +he +hingy +he sell +o manouver +he quil+
sandwich around - wai+, i+ is called 'Free motion guide grip' -
http://www.sewing-world.co.uk/sewing...t_quilters.htm).
she did +hrow in a 1/4" foo+ wi+h a lip and gave me a darning/s+ippling
foo+ for half price.

any of you viking owners willing +o agree or disagree wi+h +hose
s+a+emen+s? how abou+ +he open foo+ for s+ippling, e+c.?

I have a feeling I am never going +o use more +han one of +he fee+ +ha+
came wi+h i+ and ins+ead would use a bunch of +he o+hers much more. why
don+ sm machine manufac+urers in general le+ you choose a range of 5 fee+
you really will use ins+ead of +he 5 or 6 +hey +hink you'll need (which i
couldn'+ name if you asked me +o - I +hink one is a zipper foo+ bu+ +ha+
is abou+ i+?

+here was a lady buying a lesser model +ha+ i am sure would have happily
+raded a walking foo+ for +ha+ bu++onholer....

also, do you +hink i+ would be wor+h i+ +o sell +he generic walking and
darning foo+ I was using in ebay

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http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali
(take the dog out before replying)

Okay, I did buy and open toe foot, it is metal. But the front is open, nothing in
front of the needle. If I remember correctly it was about $20, which I am willing
to spend to get a quality foot, that fits correctly without wobbling.
I also spent that on the edge joining foot, and it is one of the feet I use the
most.
There is also a book put out by Viking, on using different feet for different
applications. You might look at it. The local Viking shop also has a monthly
"Foot Club" that meets and works with different feet each month. The sponsored
"clubs" are not expensive to attend either, and do help you learn more about your
machine.

Pati, in Phx.

DrQuilter wrote:

thanks pati. I did kind of that, reduced presser foot pressure and used
the A foot for straigh quilting and I have to say am most satisfied with
the results. of course i use low loft batting always, such as warm and
natural. next part of the project is to do some free motion with the
darning foot that was not included (did someone mention hers came with
it?).

i am saving our message, but you will have to explain those other
applications in more detail again when i get to them... the lady that
sells these sold another machine on the same day so she will try to
coordinate the classes. the video helped (i had the spool in the wrong
orientation and had missed the tension spring on the bobbin.. no wonder
stitches didn't look good) ....

about the aplique foot. for the broher i had bought a foot, no metal in
it and wih a big opening that really allowed you to see where you were
going and made my machine aplique a lot better. figure a small piece of
plastic cannot be too expensive, right? (visualize naive look on my face...)

Pati Cook wrote:

Welcome to the Viking world. (I love my Vikings.)
I do not have a walking foot for my #1, which is the machine I use for
quilting, binding and so on. I reduce the pressure foot pressure and use an
open toe appliqué foot. Or a darning foot for free motion.
I also use the edge joining foot for stitch in the ditch work.
You might be surprised at how many of the feet you will be able to use if you
try them for different things.
The zipper foot is great to use for fabric boxes or putting piping into
the seam of the binding.
The blind hem foot can work well to machine sew the binding second edge
on.
I'm making a convergence quilt right now, and Ricky Tim's instructions
call for a narrower than quarter inch seam, so I am using the "B" foot (which
is the one I use most of the time for regular sewing, even though it is the
"embroidery stitch" foot.) and set the needle all the way to the right.
And the sensor buttonhole foot is wonderful for any buttonhole you want
to make. I use small buttonholes for eyelets in some places. There are some
really interesting ways to use eyelets in corners or sides of mini quilts
then tie them together to make a larger design. Or make buttonholes around
the edge of a fleece blanket and use narrow ribbon as "thread" to whip stitch
around it. Could do the same thing on small quilts, around the edge of a
jacket or all sorts of things, even if you don't make clothes. (Buttonholes
on the edge of a sleeve could be used to fasten mittens to a coat with
elastic. then the mittens/gloves don't get lost. )
The over edge foot is great for satin stitching.

Need more ideas for your feet??? Just ask. I love the different feet that
come with my machines, and I also buy some of the others because they are so
much fun. I also like to figure out different ways to use the feet. G

So......... I think you will be fine without the walking foot..... just
remember that you can adjust the pressure of the pressure foot. Not sure
which acrylic appliqué foot you mean. The quilt grip thing is a waste. The
darning/ stippling foot works well for free motion.

Do take the owner's classes. More than once if you need to. You will learn
more than you ever wanted to know about your machine and how to use it if you
do.

Pati, in Phx. (Oh, the buttonhole can be made absolutely huge.......great to
create a pocket patch on a little girl's activity quilt. G)


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http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali
(take the dog out before replying)

DrQuilter wrote:
i wanted to try the free motion guide thing and it was offered
to someone else....
Is this what you want to try?
http://www.thecrazyquilter.com/quiltseweasy.htm

If so, send me your snail mail address and you can have it. I liked it
when I first tried it, but now prefer to use the Machingers gloves. It
seemed that I was always moving the hoop to get to another area, and it
was easier to just move my hands.

Julia in MN
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http://webpages.charter.net/jaccola/

Ah, the Grippy Hoopy Thing, or GHT, as it is called by those in the know
about jargon. G I have one and I have machine gloves. The GHT helps me
keep the area to be quilted nice and flat, but it's faster to move around
with the gloves. Try both, Marissa, and see which you prefer.

--
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"Julia in MN" wrote in message
...
DrQuilter wrote:
i wanted to try the free motion guide thing and it was offered
to someone else....
Is this what you want to try?
http://www.thecrazyquilter.com/quiltseweasy.htm

If so, send me your snail mail address and you can have it. I liked it
when I first tried it, but now prefer to use the Machingers gloves. It
seemed that I was always moving the hoop to get to another area, and it
was easier to just move my hands.

Julia in MN
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http://webpages.charter.net/jaccola/

If you ever plan to do any garment sewing you will want that buttonhole
foot, it is fabulous. You probably don't need the whole quilter's kit,
but do want the walking foot and the acrylic table.

Maureen

DrQuilter wrote:
my viking came wi+h an expensive looking bu++onhole foo+ bu+ no walking
foo+ or acrylic aplique foo+. +he dealer promised I don'+ need +he
walking foo+, which cos+s around 85 bucks, or any o+her par+ of +he
quil+ers ki+ (for example she said she ha+es +he +hingy +he sell +o
manouver +he quil+ sandwich around - wai+, i+ is called 'Free motion
guide grip' -
http://www.sewing-world.co.uk/sewing...t_quilters.htm).
she did +hrow in a 1/4" foo+ wi+h a lip and gave me a darning/s+ippling
foo+ for half price.

any of you viking owners willing +o agree or disagree wi+h +hose
s+a+emen+s? how abou+ +he open foo+ for s+ippling, e+c.?

I have a feeling I am never going +o use more +han one of +he fee+ +ha+
came wi+h i+ and ins+ead would use a bunch of +he o+hers much more. why
don+ sm machine manufac+urers in general le+ you choose a range of 5
fee+ you really will use ins+ead of +he 5 or 6 +hey +hink you'll need
(which i couldn'+ name if you asked me +o - I +hink one is a zipper foo+
bu+ +ha+ is abou+ i+?

+here was a lady buying a lesser model +ha+ i am sure would have happily
+raded a walking foo+ for +ha+ bu++onholer....

also, do you +hink i+ would be wor+h i+ +o sell +he generic walking and
darning foo+ I was using in ebay

In addition to the Viking Book, there is another book written by a
Viking dealer called the Viking Foot Book (2nd ed.) It doesn't explain
all the feet, but has very good and detailed instructions for many of
the most common ones.

Maureen

Pati Cook wrote:

Okay, I did buy and open toe foot, it is metal. But the front is open, nothing in
front of the needle. If I remember correctly it was about $20, which I am willing
to spend to get a quality foot, that fits correctly without wobbling.
I also spent that on the edge joining foot, and it is one of the feet I use the
most.
There is also a book put out by Viking, on using different feet for different
applications. You might look at it. The local Viking shop also has a monthly
"Foot Club" that meets and works with different feet each month. The sponsored
"clubs" are not expensive to attend either, and do help you learn more about your
machine.

Pati, in Phx.

DrQuilter wrote:


thanks pati. I did kind of that, reduced presser foot pressure and used
the A foot for straigh quilting and I have to say am most satisfied with
the results. of course i use low loft batting always, such as warm and
natural. next part of the project is to do some free motion with the
darning foot that was not included (did someone mention hers came with
it?).

i am saving our message, but you will have to explain those other
applications in more detail again when i get to them... the lady that
sells these sold another machine on the same day so she will try to
coordinate the classes. the video helped (i had the spool in the wrong
orientation and had missed the tension spring on the bobbin.. no wonder
stitches didn't look good) ....

about the aplique foot. for the broher i had bought a foot, no metal in
it and wih a big opening that really allowed you to see where you were
going and made my machine aplique a lot better. figure a small piece of
plastic cannot be too expensive, right? (visualize naive look on my face...)

Pati Cook wrote:


Welcome to the Viking world. (I love my Vikings.)
I do not have a walking foot for my #1, which is the machine I use for
quilting, binding and so on. I reduce the pressure foot pressure and use an
open toe appliqué foot. Or a darning foot for free motion.
I also use the edge joining foot for stitch in the ditch work.
You might be surprised at how many of the feet you will be able to use if you
try them for different things.
The zipper foot is great to use for fabric boxes or putting piping into
the seam of the binding.
The blind hem foot can work well to machine sew the binding second edge
on.
I'm making a convergence quilt right now, and Ricky Tim's instructions
call for a narrower than quarter inch seam, so I am using the "B" foot (which
is the one I use most of the time for regular sewing, even though it is the
"embroidery stitch" foot.) and set the needle all the way to the right.
And the sensor buttonhole foot is wonderful for any buttonhole you want
to make. I use small buttonholes for eyelets in some places. There are some
really interesting ways to use eyelets in corners or sides of mini quilts
then tie them together to make a larger design. Or make buttonholes around
the edge of a fleece blanket and use narrow ribbon as "thread" to whip stitch
around it. Could do the same thing on small quilts, around the edge of a
jacket or all sorts of things, even if you don't make clothes. (Buttonholes
on the edge of a sleeve could be used to fasten mittens to a coat with
elastic. then the mittens/gloves don't get lost. )
The over edge foot is great for satin stitching.

Need more ideas for your feet??? Just ask. I love the different feet that
come with my machines, and I also buy some of the others because they are so
much fun. I also like to figure out different ways to use the feet. G

So......... I think you will be fine without the walking foot..... just
remember that you can adjust the pressure of the pressure foot. Not sure
which acrylic appliqué foot you mean. The quilt grip thing is a waste. The
darning/ stippling foot works well for free motion.

Do take the owner's classes. More than once if you need to. You will learn
more than you ever wanted to know about your machine and how to use it if you
do.

Pati, in Phx. (Oh, the buttonhole can be made absolutely huge.......great to
create a pocket patch on a little girl's activity quilt. G)


--
Dr. Quilter
http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali
(take the dog out before replying)

mine doesn'+ even have a sensor foo+ sis+em, onli +he designer line has
+hose as far as I know.... bu+ she did sai I did no+ need a walking
foo+. I have +o agree +ha+ +he s+raigh+ s+i+ch quil+ing wen+ well, as
did sewing +he binding +o +he back, bu+ when I +ried +o +urn i+ +o +he
fron+ and s+ich i+ down i+ was no+ happi wi+h all +he ex+ra +hicknesses
and I am going +o have +o rip i+ off and s+ar+ again...

hfw wrote:
Hmm... I've never noticed anything that sounded as if Viking was saying the
sensor foot machines made the walking foot unnecessary. To me they seem like
apples and oranges. If they have said something to that effect, like you I
disagree--the walking foot is very helpful for some applications. (I've got
the D1)

--Heidi


--
Dr. Quilter
http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali
(take the dog out before replying)

+ha+ is +he +hing, I have been quil+ing for 10 /ears and I have never
fel+ +he desire +o make clo+hing....

Maureen Wozniak wrote:

If you ever plan to do any garment sewing you will want that buttonhole
foot, it is fabulous. You probably don't need the whole quilter's kit,
but do want the walking foot and the acrylic table.

Maureen

DrQuilter wrote:

my viking came wi+h an expensive looking bu++onhole foo+ bu+ no
walking foo+ or acrylic aplique foo+. +he dealer promised I don'+ need
+he walking foo+, which cos+s around 85 bucks, or any o+her par+ of
+he quil+ers ki+ (for example she said she ha+es +he +hingy +he sell
+o manouver +he quil+ sandwich around - wai+, i+ is called 'Free
motion guide grip' -
http://www.sewing-world.co.uk/sewing...t_quilters.htm).
she did +hrow in a 1/4" foo+ wi+h a lip and gave me a
darning/s+ippling foo+ for half price.

any of you viking owners willing +o agree or disagree wi+h +hose
s+a+emen+s? how abou+ +he open foo+ for s+ippling, e+c.?

I have a feeling I am never going +o use more +han one of +he fee+
+ha+ came wi+h i+ and ins+ead would use a bunch of +he o+hers much
more. why don+ sm machine manufac+urers in general le+ you choose a
range of 5 fee+ you really will use ins+ead of +he 5 or 6 +hey +hink
you'll need (which i couldn'+ name if you asked me +o - I +hink one is
a zipper foo+ bu+ +ha+ is abou+ i+?

+here was a lady buying a lesser model +ha+ i am sure would have happily
+raded a walking foo+ for +ha+ bu++onholer....

also, do you +hink i+ would be wor+h i+ +o sell +he generic walking
and darning foo+ I was using in ebay


--
Dr. Quilter
http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali
(take the dog out before replying)

I came to quilting from clothing, so I still have that desire every once
in a while. When I finish the Xmas sewing, I'm making a quilt for me
and some other things...for ME.

Maureen

DrQuilter wrote:
+ha+ is +he +hing, I have been quil+ing for 10 /ears and I have never
fel+ +he desire +o make clo+hing....

Maureen Wozniak wrote:

If you ever plan to do any garment sewing you will want that
buttonhole foot, it is fabulous. You probably don't need the whole
quilter's kit, but do want the walking foot and the acrylic table.

Maureen

DrQuilter wrote:

my viking came wi+h an expensive looking bu++onhole foo+ bu+ no
walking foo+ or acrylic aplique foo+. +he dealer promised I don'+
need +he walking foo+, which cos+s around 85 bucks, or any o+her par+
of +he quil+ers ki+ (for example she said she ha+es +he +hingy +he
sell +o manouver +he quil+ sandwich around - wai+, i+ is called 'Free
motion guide grip' -
http://www.sewing-world.co.uk/sewing...t_quilters.htm).
she did +hrow in a 1/4" foo+ wi+h a lip and gave me a
darning/s+ippling foo+ for half price.

any of you viking owners willing +o agree or disagree wi+h +hose
s+a+emen+s? how abou+ +he open foo+ for s+ippling, e+c.?

I have a feeling I am never going +o use more +han one of +he fee+
+ha+ came wi+h i+ and ins+ead would use a bunch of +he o+hers much
more. why don+ sm machine manufac+urers in general le+ you choose a
range of 5 fee+ you really will use ins+ead of +he 5 or 6 +hey +hink
you'll need (which i couldn'+ name if you asked me +o - I +hink one
is a zipper foo+ bu+ +ha+ is abou+ i+?

+here was a lady buying a lesser model +ha+ i am sure would have happily
+raded a walking foo+ for +ha+ bu++onholer....

also, do you +hink i+ would be wor+h i+ +o sell +he generic walking
and darning foo+ I was using in ebay