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sinusoidal stake source?
On Aug 21, 10:36 pm, "Georgia" wrote:
I was surprised and disappointed to find, on Googling "sinusoidal stake," to find only a handful of sources--Otto Frei, Walsh (all the way in the UK), and Allcraft. Am I missing something obvious here? Georgia -- Looking for a website host?www.georgiamorgan.netis hosted by Dreamhost:http://www.dreamhost.com/rewards.cgi?g4m16 I'm just a Native American silversmith, not a big-time jeweler like you guys, so I had no idea what you were talking about until I looked it up on the internet. I never heard them called by that strange name, but I got mine at Indian Jewelers Supply, www.ijsinc.com. I use mine for a lot of different pieces. Allen |
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Thanks, Carl. (Now there are a whole bunch of other things I want to do, in
addition to raising...) Georgia "Carl 1 Lucky Texan" wrote in message ... Georgia wrote: I was surprised and disappointed to find, on Googling "sinusoidal stake," to find only a handful of sources--Otto Frei, Walsh (all the way in the UK), and Allcraft. Am I missing something obvious here? Georgia Miland also sells tools that may be useful for this type of forming; http://www.jewelrytoolsbymiland.com/Tools.htm Carl -- to reply, change ( .not) to ( .net) |
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sinusoidal stake source?
Peter W.. Rowe, wrote:
... Similar to a bent tube, but not closed over into a tube, and both the tubular or channel shape, and the long axis curves are generated at the same time. The difference may not seem extreme, but it gives rise to quite different results. Different results on all scales, too. Open vs. closed sphere universe: http://library.thinkquest.org/C01266..._curvature.jpg |
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sinusoidal stake source?
Georgia wrote:
I was surprised and disappointed to find, on Googling "sinusoidal stake," to find only a handful of sources--Otto Frei, Walsh (all the way in the UK), and Allcraft. Am I missing something obvious here? Georgia Contact Michael Good at . He may be able to help you. Tell him Abrasha sent you. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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sinusoidal stake source?
William Black wrote:
I looked some of the stuff up on the web. Some of it is remarkably ugly, if novel. Obviously, that is in the eye of the beholder. A lot of it looks like something from a Birmingham School of Jewellery 'End of course' show that is more for looking at, showing off professional design skills and getting a job than actually selling. You don't know what you are talking about! Michael Good, who is a good friend of mine, is one of the most successful jewelry designers AND sellers in the US today. Some of it's bent tube that can be bent using any reasonable tube bending process. It is NOT bent tube. I challenge you to bend tube like that. People in the UK do rather tend to buy jewellery because they like it rather than because it looks striking and unusual. And of course you can show me results of research to back up this preposterous statement. As for the wavy stake, the armourers one is about fifteen inches long, two inches wide and is often the subject of unsavoury jokes involving young ladies. Right up your alley, as you just proved. Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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sinusoidal stake source?
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:39:11 -0700, AGR1947
wrote: On Aug 21, 10:36 pm, "Georgia" wrote: I was surprised and disappointed to find, on Googling "sinusoidal stake," to find only a handful of sources--Otto Frei, Walsh (all the way in the UK), and Allcraft. Am I missing something obvious here? Georgia -- Looking for a website host?www.georgiamorgan.netis hosted by Dreamhost:http://www.dreamhost.com/rewards.cgi?g4m16 I'm just a Native American silversmith, not a big-time jeweler like you guys, so I had no idea what you were talking about until I looked it up on the internet. I never heard them called by that strange name, but I got mine at Indian Jewelers Supply, www.ijsinc.com. I use mine for a lot of different pieces. So what do you call them? Do you use them for the same thing? -- Marilee J. Layman http://mjlayman.livejournal.com |
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Michael Good gives a pattern to make your own stake from plastics,
such as polypropelene, in Tim McCreight's book Metal Technic. I have made my own stakes and I have bought a metal one from Otto Frei. Both work for me. A real simple description I give people at art fairs and such of what anticlastic raising is... two perpendicular planes curiving in opposing directions. This is done through hammering with sheet metal before it is a tublar form- and does not have to be a tube to be anticlastic. A pringles chip or saddle is also anticlastic- the opposite end of the spectrum is sinclastic forms, which would be bowls and the like that have all planes moving in the same direction. I also recommend looking at the Heiki Seppa book. Abrasha, I heard a rumor that Michael Good has moved towards making his forms with a hydraulic press instead of hammering. Do you know if this is true? |
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On Aug 24, 1:23 am, "Marilee J. Layman" wrote:
On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:39:11 -0700, AGR1947 wrote: On Aug 21, 10:36 pm, "Georgia" wrote: I was surprised and disappointed to find, on Googling "sinusoidal stake," to find only a handful of sources--Otto Frei, Walsh (all the way in the UK), and Allcraft. Am I missing something obvious here? Georgia -- Looking for a website host?www.georgiamorgan.netishosted by Dreamhost:http://www.dreamhost.com/rewards.cgi?g4m16 I'm just a Native American silversmith, not a big-time jeweler like you guys, so I had no idea what you were talking about until I looked it up on the internet. I never heard them called by that strange name, but I got mine at Indian Jewelers Supply,www.ijsinc.com. I use mine for a lot of different pieces. So what do you call them? Do you use them for the same thing? -- Marilee J. Laymanhttp://mjlayman.livejournal.com I just call them anvil stakes. I assumed they call it a 'stake' because the tang resembles a tent stake. I have several of them. I have a round one I use for doming sometimes and a spoon-shaped one for making earrings. I have one of those long, thin ones they are talking about, but I use it for spiral bracelets. If you hold your strip of silver at about a 45-degree angle across the anvil, you can work the piece into a nice spiral. I often chase the silver first to develop a snake design then work it around that anvil. Allen |
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On Fri, 24 Aug 2007 07:28:12 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry AGR1947
wrote: On Aug 24, 1:23 am, "Marilee J. Layman" wrote: On Thu, 23 Aug 2007 08:39:11 -0700, AGR1947 wrote: On Aug 21, 10:36 pm, "Georgia" wrote: I was surprised and disappointed to find, on Googling "sinusoidal stake," to find only a handful of sources--Otto Frei, Walsh (all the way in the UK), and Allcraft. Am I missing something obvious here? Georgia -- Looking for a website host?www.georgiamorgan.netishosted by Dreamhost:http://www.dreamhost.com/rewards.cgi?g4m16 I'm just a Native American silversmith, not a big-time jeweler like you guys, so I had no idea what you were talking about until I looked it up on the internet. I never heard them called by that strange name, but I got mine at Indian Jewelers Supply,www.ijsinc.com. I use mine for a lot of different pieces. So what do you call them? Do you use them for the same thing? -- Marilee J. Laymanhttp://mjlayman.livejournal.com I just call them anvil stakes. I assumed they call it a 'stake' because the tang resembles a tent stake. I have several of them. I have a round one I use for doming sometimes and a spoon-shaped one for making earrings. I have one of those long, thin ones they are talking about, but I use it for spiral bracelets. If you hold your strip of silver at about a 45-degree angle across the anvil, you can work the piece into a nice spiral. I often chase the silver first to develop a snake design then work it around that anvil. Allen Allen, It sounds like you're describing a wider range of forming tools, most of which are indeed referred to as stakes, a generic sort of term. Many will have more specific names referring to their use or shape, such as raising stakes, mushroom stakes, bickhorn stakes, etc. The name "sinusoidal stake" refers specifically to one with this shape (though it can have variations in how the tang is done. These shown are straight, they can also be made bent, or with the tapered square that fits a stake holder. But this photo is the most commonly seen version. http://www.ottofrei.com/store/produc...4&cat=0&page=1 Peter |
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