Slide Pendant

I'm posting more about this because I think it is important ... for
your safety and health, and for other people's.

Here's another link... and I am also drawing attention to a couple of
quotes from that page that are relevant to the slide pendants, which
people will potentially touch a lot, and might fall into the hands of
kids, who might put them in their mouths.
http://www.minerals.csiro.au/safety/lead.htm

Note these statements:

"Lead and its compounds are cumulative poisons and should be handled
with the recommended precautions. Levels gradually increase in the
body and eventually reach a point where symptoms and disability
occur."

"Artisans of lead-glazed pottery and stained glass were particularly
susceptible to poisoning until the advent of improved workplace
practices."

"Organic lead compounds are absorbed rapidly through the skin, through
the lungs, and selectively absorbed by the central nervous
system.Encephalopathy is characterized by signs of stupor, progressing
to coma and often, terminating in death. Excitation, confusion,
hallucinations, distorted perceptions and mania are less common."

Now the odds of someone dying as a result of sucking on a slide
pendant, or wearing it against their skin is probably small ... but
even if it had only a minor negative effect on someone's well-being,
I'd sure make an effort, and go to a little more expense in order to
use something that had no such danger attached to it, since
alternatives _are_ available.

Deirdre



On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:13:14 GMT, Deirdre S.
wrote:

We're not talking about something like a nickel allergy, where your
skin breaks out, here. We're talking about lead poisoning. There is no
-immediate- symptom to that, but it can be absorbed into your system
through your skin, though the most dangerous way is to ingest it.

Well, the last exit in Oregon on I-5 is 308 and the exit numbers are also
mile markers. What part of Portland are you in?

Later,

Helen C


Basically just go south on I-5 and it'll be on the left hand side of the
interstate (east of it for those that do directions that way) Take the
exit, make a left. Go to the second light (the first one will take you back
north bound), go left and follow the road till you see the McD's and make a
right. Clear enough?


"Deirdre S." wrote in message
...
Ooo ... thank you. But I am ignorant of Wilsonville. How far is it
from Portland proper? (Time for me to get a good map that extends
further out of town than the one I've got in the car.)

Deirdre

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:26:17 GMT, "Helen C"
wrote:

For electronics try Fry's Electronics down there in Wilsonville. I-5
Exit
283(?) I believe. You can see it from the interstate. Big old warehouse
store full of electronic doodads and geegaws. Mostly discontinued or
discounted. Good stuff for a fair price (IMHO)

Later,

Helen C

"Deirdre S." wrote in message
.. .
It *is* expensive. And melts at a higher temp. Go for the lead-free
for something like the slides, I'd say.

I had a thought about soldering without burning yourself, tho -- Do
you spoze the slide-sandwich would fit between the blades of a
computer-type heat-sink -- you know, the ones with sticky-up fins? and
do you think the heatsink would then draw the heat away from the glass
and dissipate it quicker? Plus being conveniently the right shape to
support the glass while you work on it?

If I were back in my old stomping grounds, I'd go straight to Axman
and get one to experiment with -- cheap. But here in Portland, I have
no idea where to go for cheap electronics-type surplus. And I am too
cheap to pay postage from Sci&Surp at the moment.

Deirdre

Deirdre

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:08:46 GMT, "Tink"
wrote:

Unless silver
solder is less expensive than I'm imagining it is.

I found their website... interesting joint. Maybe worth a pilgrimage
to Wilsonville sometime...

Deirdre

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 11:24:24 -0700, vj wrote:

Fry's Electronics

You're not THAT far away. 20 miles? Nothing. Beyond walking distance so
if that's a problem...... We drive up there from Albany (a little over an
hour depending on traffic) so coming from Portland would be a cake walk.
But, this is coming from someone who LOVES to drive.

Later,

Helen C

"Deirdre S." wrote in message
...
The southeast quadrant... 36th and Salmon, which is a couple of blocks
from Hawthorne.

Wilsonville sounds like it is a loooong way off. Maybe they have a
branch in Portland (she said, wishfully thinking)...


Deirdre

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:08:14 GMT, "Helen C"
wrote:

Well, the last exit in Oregon on I-5 is 308 and the exit numbers are also
mile markers. What part of Portland are you in?

Later,

Helen C


Basically just go south on I-5 and it'll be on the left hand side of the
interstate (east of it for those that do directions that way) Take the
exit, make a left. Go to the second light (the first one will take you
back
north bound), go left and follow the road till you see the McD's and
make a
right. Clear enough?


"Deirdre S." wrote in message
.. .
Ooo ... thank you. But I am ignorant of Wilsonville. How far is it
from Portland proper? (Time for me to get a good map that extends
further out of town than the one I've got in the car.)

Deirdre

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:26:17 GMT, "Helen C"
wrote:

For electronics try Fry's Electronics down there in Wilsonville. I-5
Exit
283(?) I believe. You can see it from the interstate. Big old
warehouse
store full of electronic doodads and geegaws. Mostly discontinued or
discounted. Good stuff for a fair price (IMHO)

Later,

Helen C

"Deirdre S." wrote in message
.. .
It *is* expensive. And melts at a higher temp. Go for the lead-free
for something like the slides, I'd say.

I had a thought about soldering without burning yourself, tho -- Do
you spoze the slide-sandwich would fit between the blades of a
computer-type heat-sink -- you know, the ones with sticky-up fins?
and
do you think the heatsink would then draw the heat away from the
glass
and dissipate it quicker? Plus being conveniently the right shape to
support the glass while you work on it?

If I were back in my old stomping grounds, I'd go straight to Axman
and get one to experiment with -- cheap. But here in Portland, I
have
no idea where to go for cheap electronics-type surplus. And I am too
cheap to pay postage from Sci&Surp at the moment.

Deirdre

Deirdre

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:08:46 GMT, "Tink"
wrote:

Unless silver
solder is less expensive than I'm imagining it is.

Charlie, they have it at Lowe's and Home Depot, if you have either of those
near you.
http://snurl.com/298s


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"Charlie" wrote in message
...
I haven't been able to find lead free solder round here. I've asked in
all
the DIY places and the hardware stores and no one knows anyone who sells
it!

Charlie.

"Tink" wrote in message
...
I've been using lead-free solder on mine, as lead freaks me out. I'm not
sure I'd go so far as to use silver solder, based on the cost. Unless
silver
solder is less expensive than I'm imagining it is.

--

Tink

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"Charlie" wrote in message
...
It's tin based solder with some lead and the finding is just described
as
"beading wire" so it's either silver or silver plated (I believe the
later
one). I'm going to try and use silver solder eventually but I have to
get
a
more expensive soldering iron which I can't afford right now. Not
till
I've
sold quite a few anyway.

Charlie.

"Lisa" wrote in message
...
I know you didn't ask for feedback, but ... what is the soldering
composed
of? Is it sterling, lead, etc. Is the finding base metal,
sterling?

Just thought potential bidders might want to know.

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
The microscope slide pendant I was talking about yesterday is up
for
auction!






http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ADME:B:LC:UK:1

Charlie.

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Oh. I was imagining the exit numbers were hundreds away from -here-.
Talk about local-centric.

And 20 miles is an easy jaunt. I just have no idea what is near what,
that's all. Or what is -between- here and there, either.

Deirdre (geographically impaired)

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:45:25 GMT, "Helen C"
wrote:

You're not THAT far away. 20 miles? Nothing. Beyond walking distance so
if that's a problem...... We drive up there from Albany (a little over an
hour depending on traffic) so coming from Portland would be a cake walk.
But, this is coming from someone who LOVES to drive.

Later,

Helen C

"Deirdre S." wrote in message
.. .
The southeast quadrant... 36th and Salmon, which is a couple of blocks
from Hawthorne.

Wilsonville sounds like it is a loooong way off. Maybe they have a
branch in Portland (she said, wishfully thinking)...


Deirdre

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 18:08:14 GMT, "Helen C"
wrote:

Well, the last exit in Oregon on I-5 is 308 and the exit numbers are also
mile markers. What part of Portland are you in?

Later,

Helen C


Basically just go south on I-5 and it'll be on the left hand side of the
interstate (east of it for those that do directions that way) Take the
exit, make a left. Go to the second light (the first one will take you
back
north bound), go left and follow the road till you see the McD's and
make a
right. Clear enough?


"Deirdre S." wrote in message
.. .
Ooo ... thank you. But I am ignorant of Wilsonville. How far is it
from Portland proper? (Time for me to get a good map that extends
further out of town than the one I've got in the car.)

Deirdre

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 17:26:17 GMT, "Helen C"
wrote:

For electronics try Fry's Electronics down there in Wilsonville. I-5
Exit
283(?) I believe. You can see it from the interstate. Big old
warehouse
store full of electronic doodads and geegaws. Mostly discontinued or
discounted. Good stuff for a fair price (IMHO)

Later,

Helen C

"Deirdre S." wrote in message
.. .
It *is* expensive. And melts at a higher temp. Go for the lead-free
for something like the slides, I'd say.

I had a thought about soldering without burning yourself, tho -- Do
you spoze the slide-sandwich would fit between the blades of a
computer-type heat-sink -- you know, the ones with sticky-up fins?
and
do you think the heatsink would then draw the heat away from the
glass
and dissipate it quicker? Plus being conveniently the right shape to
support the glass while you work on it?

If I were back in my old stomping grounds, I'd go straight to Axman
and get one to experiment with -- cheap. But here in Portland, I
have
no idea where to go for cheap electronics-type surplus. And I am too
cheap to pay postage from Sci&Surp at the moment.

Deirdre

Deirdre

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 13:08:46 GMT, "Tink"
wrote:

Unless silver
solder is less expensive than I'm imagining it is.

More endorsements. I gotta find a time when it will work to check it
out.

Deirdre

On Fri, 05 Sep 2003 19:33:25 GMT, "Jalynne"
wrote:

That's where my folks get their computer stuff. It's not all that far from you,
really. Good prices.

My BF works in one! They've never sold it there.

Charlie.

"Christina Peterson" wrote in message
news:1062793861.140806@prawn...
My husband just got back from the hardware store. He'd been looking for
some sort of connection. For the oil stove. Ace Hardware jerry-rigged
something complicated together for him out of a bunch of pieces. So he
checked the smaller local place that looks like a feed store and has been
around for decades and is non affiliated. All their staff has been there
a
long time and knows the stock well, except a couple kids who clean up
there.
They walked right to the item wanted. I have the same experience there,
even though I can't describe things as accurately.

If you have an old timers hardware store, that woulb be the place to look.

Tina


"Charlie" wrote in message
...
I haven't been able to find lead free solder round here. I've asked in
all
the DIY places and the hardware stores and no one knows anyone who sells
it!

Charlie.

"Tink" wrote in message
...
I've been using lead-free solder on mine, as lead freaks me out. I'm
not
sure I'd go so far as to use silver solder, based on the cost. Unless
silver
solder is less expensive than I'm imagining it is.

--

Tink

www.blackswampglassworks.com
Sign Up Now For Fall Workshops!
Hollows, Vessels & Florals...

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
It's tin based solder with some lead and the finding is just
described
as
"beading wire" so it's either silver or silver plated (I believe the
later
one). I'm going to try and use silver solder eventually but I have
to
get
a
more expensive soldering iron which I can't afford right now. Not
till
I've
sold quite a few anyway.

Charlie.

"Lisa" wrote in message
...
I know you didn't ask for feedback, but ... what is the soldering
composed
of? Is it sterling, lead, etc. Is the finding base metal,
sterling?

Just thought potential bidders might want to know.

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
The microscope slide pendant I was talking about yesterday is up
for
auction!







http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ssPageName= A
DME:B:LC:UK:1

Charlie.

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I live in the UK, I've been to the big places round here.

Charlie.

"Tink" wrote in message
...
Charlie, they have it at Lowe's and Home Depot, if you have either of
those
near you.
http://snurl.com/298s


--

Tink

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Sign Up Now For Fall Workshops!
Hollows, Vessels & Florals...

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
I haven't been able to find lead free solder round here. I've asked in
all
the DIY places and the hardware stores and no one knows anyone who sells
it!

Charlie.

"Tink" wrote in message
...
I've been using lead-free solder on mine, as lead freaks me out. I'm
not
sure I'd go so far as to use silver solder, based on the cost. Unless
silver
solder is less expensive than I'm imagining it is.

--

Tink

www.blackswampglassworks.com
Sign Up Now For Fall Workshops!
Hollows, Vessels & Florals...

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
It's tin based solder with some lead and the finding is just
described
as
"beading wire" so it's either silver or silver plated (I believe the
later
one). I'm going to try and use silver solder eventually but I have
to
get
a
more expensive soldering iron which I can't afford right now. Not
till
I've
sold quite a few anyway.

Charlie.

"Lisa" wrote in message
...
I know you didn't ask for feedback, but ... what is the soldering
composed
of? Is it sterling, lead, etc. Is the finding base metal,
sterling?

Just thought potential bidders might want to know.

"Charlie" wrote in message
...
The microscope slide pendant I was talking about yesterday is up
for
auction!







http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/ws/eBayISAPI.d...ADME:B:LC:UK:1

Charlie.

--
Get yourself a new pet!
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"Deirdre S." wrote in message
...


Now, there is solder on the market made from tin and antimony. (An
example of the label marking would be: "95/TIN, 5/ANT.") Use this
"lead-free" solder for plumbing in drinking water systems.



Well, mine says 93% tin, it's 2% off the recommended! I think this is the
closest I'll get. I'll have to keep looking.

Charlie.