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Replacing bra shelf foam with horsehair?
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"wurstergirl" wrote: I understand the desire for the ultimate in support solutions, suggesting boning. But, she'll never wear such a thing. I'm shooting for "pretty good", which is much better than what she had before. I'll feel I've contributed a lot if I can simply equal the support of the foam while reducing weight and heat. That's proving to be a very big challenge! I might just visit the sports fabric store in Berkeley and browse the technical stuff for inspiration. You asked for alternatives. I merely gave you one since you didn't mention any restrictions. -- I fear me you but warm the starved snake Who, cherished in your breasts, will sting your hearts. (Henry VI,Shakespeare) |
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Replacing bra shelf foam with horsehair?
Oh, what's that? How firm does it get? And is it flexible when you're done or pretty hard? as hard or as firm as you want. just a matter of playing with the ingredients! it's all just chemistry:-) i did mine with two bits kinda like a diy bioform(more below). used hard plasic for a sort of underwire but wider and with sides and with softer stuff.for cups. but could easily have the two blended together. This is a very interesting idea. I have never seen a bioform in person though I've heard about it. (Does anyone have an old spare they could loan me for week or two?) if i could find mine i'd give you it but most of my stuff's in storage at the moment. i'll see if i can locate it but could be several months! I did see the program on it and it was a good idea, in principle! just went wrong in practice, well for me anyway. the idea i think was to replace the underwire with something softer to soothe our poor abused flesh. however in order to regain the support they had to make the bit wider, which would have been ok but they made the central core of the inset very hard and the rest of it quite hard. making the whole thing very firm. but some women love it. I did go get fitted for mine (more on that later) and the woman said that the sizing on them was very different and most people didn't get on with them. but all that's my biased opinion after aying £30+ for it and finding that it was agony after 2 hours! However i do appluad them for trying do do something about the dark ages design of bras in general http://autospeed.drive.com.au/cms/A_...ntArticle.html might be better! this next link is only tenuously connected but it's infamous in certain circles (i first read it when i was 17) http://gendertree.com/a_stress_analy..._strapless.htm what really narks me off about the bra industry is many fold so here comes a rant....:-) 60% of woman wear the wrong size. why? cause it's so damm difficult to get the right one! I've done what you're supposed to do and i have a drawerfull of bras that i was fitted for, was told were perfect and coughed up large cash for only to find that after a few hous they drew blood. I once did a test on fitting and i went from one end of princes street(lived in edinburgh at the time) to the other and got measred in every store that sold bras. so that's 4 department stores, la senza, M&S, C&A, BHS, Evans. about 10. all gave me different results. Given that in general in my size one has to buy by mail order and can't try on you might as be sticking a pin. there's an implicit assumption that once you get over a E cup you want to hide them, squish them down and make sure they never move. i have a bust and there a times i would like to flaunt it. I want the same options someone with a C cup would have. Sometimes i want cleavage, sometimes i want strapless (ever seem these above a G?) I would like a sports bra (last look on various web sites found ONE in a H at around £30). I'd like nice fabrics (although Evans did a silk range a few years back- if only they could have made them fit!) and i'd like to pay a sensible price for them. I resent the fact that because i have a bust i can't jsut go to tesco and pick up a pack of 2 for a £5 like my mum does. The only time i even think of my self as having a large bust is when i try to find bras. i'm used to not wearing one at all and don't feel that i need support! i'm not looking for this 'lift separate and imprision' sort of thing. They're supposed to move! i've stopped going in to lingerie departements mostly cause i know i'll see all these lovely things that only go up to a C. Sigh However there's a slightly more phiosopical arguemnt too. Given than roughly 50% of the population need/feel they have too wear these torture devices you'd think someone would have come up with a better design. one that wasn't so sensitive to people's individual quirks, or alternatively taken it the other way and made to measure bras were available on every high street, like glasses. (and it would mean sewers could get the bits more easily) umm that was a bit of a rant... ooops. maybe i'm not typical and all women over an E/F do want that 'might as well wear a corset' feeling. lol who knows. anyway it's hardly your fault that the bra industy makes money out of those of us who keep buying the stuff they make cause there's nothing better! :-) emma |
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Bit like wearing plate armour, really. Dead comfy when they fitted, but you did feel like a twin-hulled ship sailing into port! Even with holes in the plastic armature they were rather ware exactamundo! |
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Phaedrine wrote: In article . com, wrote: there's an implicit assumption that once you get over a E cup you want to hide them, squish them down and make sure they never move. Minimizing and preventing unnecessary & painful bounce during exercise is perhaps a more accurate description. Those who don't wish to do this during exercise are the exception, not the rule. during exersise maybe but the rest of the time? and Bounce painful? really? not for me.Maybe that's the issue then Then what in the pit of doom are you complaining about and why are you even in a such a snit about bras if you don't need or like them? Get yourself some t-shirts and you can flaunt them until you start catching them in your jeans zipper. because one can not live on t-shirts alone! generally i live in spagetti strap tops but hatchings, matching, dispatchings and job interviews require a little mre formality. BTW many studies have shown that there's absolutely no link between age related sagging and bra wear. they'll drop whatever you do. |
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Replacing bra shelf foam with horsehair?
Phaedrine wrote:
This lady needs compression, coverage and structure. I, too, have a generous bust, but the only time I want compression is when my boobs are on the mammogram shelf, and I don't need full coverage. Bosoms on the half-shell are quite all right for me in underwear, my outergarments will cover my assets and maintain my modesty, thank you. As far as structure is concerned, what I need is some REAL engineering and cantileverage to give me the support I need. Olwyn Mary in New Orleans. -- Posted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com |
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umm that was all a bit ranty but i would like to add that i was in a
bad mood this afternoon! no offence intended also i would actually like to find a bra that fits comfortably i've just never found it hence slight ****ed off ness:-). closest i've got is comfort without fit. emma |
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Replacing bra shelf foam with horsehair?
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Olwyn Mary wrote: Phaedrine wrote: This lady needs compression, coverage and structure. I, too, have a generous bust, but the only time I want compression is when my boobs are on the mammogram shelf................ snip Then it's a good thing my *solicited* opinion was given to Pora regarding her customer--- not you. When we say that a bra gives uplift, we obviously don't mean the vertical thrust needed to hoist a rocket from a launch pad into outer space. By the same token, when we say that any bra that wraps around the body applies compression, we surely do not mean the exaggerated and often painful constriction necessary for radiography--- unless, of course, it is one's intention to hyperbolize. Phae -- I fear me you but warm the starved snake Who, cherished in your breasts, will sting your hearts. (Henry VI,Shakespeare) |
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Replacing bra shelf foam with horsehair?
wurstergirl wrote: Phaedrine wrote: Sorry, Pora. I did not mean to sound so terse or bossy! It was late and I was in a hurry... sorry. Don't worry offence taken :-) Aw, sh!t. That's supposed to say "NO offense taken..." What kind of brain fart was that? I'm reconsidering your suggestion about boning in cups. Can't talk much right now, but I think I've got an elegant idea sprouting in my head. Something along the lines of using reinforced vertical flat-felled-type seams in a thinner shelf to create more rigidity. Like the fan-shaped boning of victorian corsets? Just came back from visiting 48J. Got a good look at the stretchy bra on her and have rejected the whole project. Exactly as you described, the powernet frame was nowhere near her body and her breasts were drooping most unsatisfactorily. Back to the drawing board. Pora |
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