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Old October 7th 04, 10:27 PM
Jean D Mahavier
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You two please take your discussion off this newsgroup.
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Old October 8th 04, 02:39 AM
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So what do you think would look good for a cowboy shirt yoke? Plain,
pasily, checkered, something else? This might be used for the cuffs,
too.
I'm also curious about color combinations. Suggestions are welcomed.

John

I used to have one I loved the look: solid color body and sleeves, small
plaid for the yokes and cuffs, cut on the bias.


Jean D Mahavier


Thought about that, but then thought it might weaken the shirt putting the
yoke on the bias. It would certainly look nice.

John


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Old October 8th 04, 08:33 AM
Tom Farrell
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"A" wrote in message news:zdm9d.208767$D%.127723@attbi_s51...
So what do you think would look good for a cowboy shirt yoke? Plain,


Jean D Mahavier wrote:
I used to have one I loved the look: solid color body and sleeves, small
plaid for the yokes and cuffs, cut on the bias.


John wrote:

Thought about that, but then thought it might weaken the shirt putting the
yoke on the bias. It would certainly look nice.


Western shirts often (usually? always?) use the yoke as a decorative,
rather than functional, part of the garment. It's assembled separately
and top-stitched onto the shirt. So, a bias yoke wouldn't harm
anything.

My experience has been that most quality western shirts (and I used to
be quite fond of them, so I had many back before I became a city guy)
are all one fabric, although some parts may be on the bias. The few I
had that had contrast fabric, the primary fabric was a stripe or
plaid, and the *accent* fabric was a solid, in a color that matched at
least one of the colors of the primary fabric.

I've recently developed a like of corduroy again for some reason. I
used to love it for pants, now it's as an accent fabric. I have a RTW
jacket that is cotton gabardine on the outside, poly fleece on the
inside, and some details including the inside pocket are cotton
corduroy... everything being a uniform shade of grey. I think it's
really great, and I've been thinking about making some shirts with
corduroy accent fabric, perhaps a western shirt.

John, I've misplaced the original text, but you asked about golf
shirts versus polo shirts. Golf shirts have woven body fabric and are
generally a solid color, while polo shirts are knit fabric and have
horizontal stripes. They're otherwise fairly interchangable. Depending
on the amount of ease, you can sometimes use a pattern designed for
one to make the other. (Well, you can always do it, but the resulting
garment may or may not turn out to be the size desired.)

Tom Farrell
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Old October 8th 04, 05:15 PM
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My experience has been that most quality western shirts (and I used to
be quite fond of them, so I had many back before I became a city guy)
are all one fabric, although some parts may be on the bias.


You mean no shoulder seam - the front and back yoke(s) is one piece?


I've recently developed a like of corduroy again for some reason. I
used to love it for pants, now it's as an accent fabric. I have a RTW
jacket that is cotton gabardine on the outside, poly fleece on the
inside, and some details including the inside pocket are cotton
corduroy... everything being a uniform shade of grey. I think it's
really great, and I've been thinking about making some shirts with
corduroy accent fabric, perhaps a western shirt.


Your RTW jacket is a unique combination of fabrics.

John


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Old October 11th 04, 02:35 AM
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Did you know that the national firefighters union has been stating its
opposition to Bush, and that fire departments have refused (despite
repeated requests) to pose for photo ops with Bush, since 9/11 because
he has CUT the budget for firefighters equipment since 9/11?

Tom Farrell

Forest fire and city (local fire hall) I think are two different groups. I
oftern wonder were state gov's should have rights over Fed gov's, therefore
Fed money does not go to everything in the States, nor responsible, but
tending to other things.

Another thing, all Presidents are out trying to get relected when they can.
First time I noticed that I thought it was terrible, but Carter did it,
Reagan did it, Bush did it, Clinton did it, and so it goes on.

About mothers milk haveing fire retardent in it- were does all the retardent
come from? Is it in clothes, bedding, furniture, carpets? How safe are we
with these and other chemicals absorption? Cotton in the 60's and back was
hard to iron, nowadays they put so much stuff into cloth (one so it does not
wrinkle)- what are we wearing besides cloth?

John


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Old October 11th 04, 11:43 PM
Tom Farrell
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"A" wrote in message news:crlad.224750$D%.29909@attbi_s51...
Did you know that the national firefighters union has been stating its
opposition to Bush, and that fire departments have refused (despite
repeated requests) to pose for photo ops with Bush, since 9/11 because
he has CUT the budget for firefighters equipment since 9/11?

Tom Farrell

Forest fire and city (local fire hall) I think are two different groups.


They may be in some areas, they are not in others.

Beyond that, I was speaking of the attitudes of firefighters as a
group... and believe me, firefighters tend to see themselves as part
of a brotherhood of firemen, no matter whether they're full time
professionals or part time volunteers, forest or city. They know that
if there's a major emergency they may be called upon to fly across the
country to cover each other's backs fighting a major forest fire. They
know that any one of them would walk into a burning building to save
someone.

I have an old friend who is a fireman. I've known him since first
grade, and for a long time thought he was something of a flighty
person. When we were finishing high school, he became a volunteer
firefighter, but I figured it was something he was just picking up as
a kind of intense hobby, that he'd drop it in a moment.

In April of 2001, he came to my home to spend the night before we took
a weekend vacation together in New York. He'd stopped along the way to
pick up a piece of equipment, and showed it to me over dinner. It was
a little box that emitted an improbably loud noise, to be worn on the
outside of his uniform. I couldn't quite get the point... until he
explained that it was so that when he's inside a burning house and it
collapses on top of him, his fellow firemen would be able to hear
where he was to dig him out.

I realized then that I'd done my friend wrong for 20 years, not giving
him the respect he was due. Here was a man who would calmly walk into
a burning house, knowing full well it might collapse on top of him, to
help someone in need.

It's also why I'm so upset about Bush cutting funding for
firefighters. These are good people like my friend, getting killed for
lack of equipment. (not my friend, I'm thinking about the 9/11
firefighters.)

About mothers milk haveing fire retardent in it- were does all the retardent
come from? Is it in clothes, bedding, furniture, carpets? How safe are we
with these and other chemicals absorption? Cotton in the 60's and back was
hard to iron, nowadays they put so much stuff into cloth (one so it does not
wrinkle)- what are we wearing besides cloth?


Well, I know the anti-stain clothes that Levis is coming out with use
microfiber polyester mixed with cotton... A lot of other treatments
wash out.

Tom
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Old October 14th 04, 12:32 AM
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Trish Brown wrote:

Karen M. wrote:

A guitar would need a lot more padding, or a stiffer liner.
Could you just "upholster" your existing case with nylon pack
cloth? That eould stabilize it and remove a lot of the construction
challenges.


Yes, I could do that. I can't picture it without covering up all the
closures, though. They're clasp type ones that are fixed on with
flimsy-looking but still-working rivets. Any ideas?


How about sewing in some good heavy-duty velcro straps during the early
construction phase? And to stiffen the case, possibly use 1/4" plywood
and some 1"x1" posts between the front and back.

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