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Ot i wanted for once to see
I waited and hoped that somebody , on this Ng that are so quick to
attack me about everything pribvate and political ,will get up and say some words against Terrorism .... nast Dirty terorism that kills babies and maimes children on Purpose , because the suocider situated himself in a group of young kids , on Purpose ,,,, an Imam a man supposed to worship God ,,,, blew up kids .... and where sare you all the people who denounce priests and flame people for the smallest words , or attack me when we defend outrselves... now where are you all the people who claim they are not Anti Semite , why are you silent when Jewish kids are slaughtered,, and don`t tell me we do it as well , because you have no clue what you are talking about . Mourn the UN killed and wounded people who went to bring peace in Iraq and lost their life to crazed terrorism , that knows only one language Death Death and more death ,,, where are your remarks ,, now ?? mirjam |
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As an addition to Mirjam's very emotional note, I thought some of you might
be interested in reading the following very sad newsletter. This information comes directly from the Hadassah Medical Organization Hospital in Jerusalem, Israel. THE HUNDRED-AND-FIRST PALESTINIAN SUICIDE BOMBING It was the 101st Palestinian suicide bombing in the 35 months of violence in Israel, and the too-well-practiced emergency teams were immediately in action. But there was a different feeling about this latest atrocity, at least in the Hadassah Medical Center, which took in more than half of the 100-plus injured. For the first time, pediatricians and pediatric surgeons dominated the Emergency and Trauma Units, with casualty after incoming casualty turning out to be children, toddlers, infants. Stoic veterans of the aftermath of terror, Hadassah doctors, nurses and social workers alike were stricken by the youth of their patients. The frantic relatives, who always converge on the hospital after an attack desperate for information about the missing, were absent, the bomber having blasted entire families with his lethal payload of explosives, bolts and nails. New questions faced medical teams who have unhappily seen it all these past three years. A nurse rushed a baby weighing-scales down the corridor, so doctors could gauge the ages of unidentified infants. What about the hepatitis B vaccination routinely administered to bleeding victims: should it be given to infants, as well? And, as time went on, were the children the doctors were fighting to save destined to live as orphans? A two-and-a-half-year-old girl admitted at 9.39 p.m. lay unclaimed hour after hour, unconscious and unclaimed. The heads of seven doctors and nurses clustered round a baby boy, probably a month old, turned every time anyone walked past, hoping someone had come to claim and comfort him. Neighbors from the close-knit Har Nof community, where most of the victims lived, trickled into the hospital. They had doubtless attended the little boy's brit mila, they said, but none of them could identify him, he was too young. As he was taken off to CT, his bloodied clothes were collected into a bag. The neighbors would take the tragic bag to bus victims in Jerusalem's other three hospitals. Perhaps someone there would know who he was. CT scanning showed the baby's pelvis had been fractured, his ear drum pierced and his chest and abdomen blast-injured - and that he had been born with a single kidney. And then news reached the Ein Kerem team of a couple and three children hospitalized elsewhere in Jerusalem. They had been on the bus, returning home from the Western Wall, with their five youngsters. The mother had been nursing her month-old baby boy when the explosion blasted him out of her arms. She was certain he was dead. And, oh yes, the child had been born with only one kidney. At 1.45 a.m., the unclaimed baby at Ein Kerem was identified as Elhanan Niria Cohen. The unconscious two-and-a-half-year-old girl was his sister Shira. Doctors who had long since stabilized the bus victims but had been unwilling to leave the hospital until the baby had a name, packed up and went home. And the neighbors were excused the task of showing bloodied children's clothing to shocked and injured parents. Fourteen hours after the blast, the baby and his mother, Ora, are doing well. His father and siblings remain critical. Thirty-three victims of last night's bomber were taken to Hadassah's Mount Scopus hospital, and 30 to Ein Kerem. As well as a larger proportion than ever before of young victims, there were also five who were unidentified for many hours. Midwives Nava Braverman and Michal Liebergall of the Family Information Center set up following terror attacks, worked through the night to provide names for the injured. In addition to the two Cohen children, three other victims lay unclaimed for several hours. With one, a little girl of eight, heart-shaped earrings with a blue stone in the center of each unlocked her identity. With a second, a middle-aged woman, orthopedic surgeon Prof. Meir Liebergall thought he recognized his own work in a healed fracture of her knee. Two different families were searching for a woman in middle years, but the X-rays of her earlier surgery clinched her identity "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... I waited and hoped that somebody , on this Ng that are so quick to attack me about everything pribvate and political ,will get up and say some words against Terrorism .... nast Dirty terorism that kills babies and maimes children on Purpose , because the suocider situated himself in a group of young kids , on Purpose ,,,, an Imam a man supposed to worship God ,,,, blew up kids .... and where sare you all the people who denounce priests and flame people for the smallest words , or attack me when we defend outrselves... now where are you all the people who claim they are not Anti Semite , why are you silent when Jewish kids are slaughtered,, and don`t tell me we do it as well , because you have no clue what you are talking about . Mourn the UN killed and wounded people who went to bring peace in Iraq and lost their life to crazed terrorism , that knows only one language Death Death and more death ,,, where are your remarks ,, now ?? mirjam |
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thank you Lucille, I did not see that piece....it ears my heart out to think of
these poor young victims of man's inhumanity to his neighbor |
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Mirjam Bruck-Cohen wrote:
I waited and hoped that somebody , on this Ng that are so quick to attack me about everything pribvate and political ,will get up and say some words against Terrorism .... Because I don't discuss or mourn the senseless waste of human (and other) life here, doesn't mean that I do not care about such things. I simply do not feel that mourning, kvetching, or pointing fingers has a place on this newsgroup. I go elsewhere for that. Still working with a lovely hand-dyed varigated cotton floss in two shades on lavendar Fossil Fern cotton for a wall hanging for someone. It's coming along rather lovely, I think, despite a lack of attention to it. I'll probably add a sprinkling of clear crystal beads for reflecting rays of hope to it. And it should be finished at the NY meetup tomorrow. =) I'm also going to try to find a metalic piece or two that I've done and bring to show off. -georg |
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Yes Elizabeth you are right , this is a needlework group , which never stopped many here to discuss Their problems with pedophilic priests , their gardens, coffee, chocolate, rgeumatic problems, diet, mothers in law education, punishing kids and what not, planning military carreers ALL those ARE very Needleworky subjects !!!!!of course !!! And when the towers fell i was amongst those trying to help from my experience ,,,,, Your answer only strengthens my Knowledge that this group keeps Double standards ,,, when it is other people`s pains, it suddenly isn`t not the place ??? may i keep your post and send to every non needlework subject that appears on this NG ,,,,, This is a needlework newsgroup, Mirjam. If you want that sort of outpouring, I suggest you go to talk.politics. Well Elizabeth i am Human , i am living on the streets of my country and i mourn ,,,, why can`t i for once pour my Feelings here , am i an outcast ??? others share here every detail of their life ,,, even their drinking habits , the medicines they use, the operations they go through and i can`t Lament the murder of babies ?? Why Elizabeth , are this babies less than others ???? I thought you once claimed that you never started the off topic threads, but only responded to others who started them? Elizabeth |
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thank you Tamira for your kind words ,
mirjam wrote: thank you Lucille, I did not see that piece....it ears my heart out to think of these poor young victims of man's inhumanity to his neighbor |
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Mirjam Bruck-Cohen wrote:
Yes Elizabeth you are right , this is a needlework group , which never stopped many here to discuss Their problems with pedophilic priests , their gardens, coffee, chocolate, rgeumatic problems, diet, mothers in law education, punishing kids and what not, planning military carreers ALL those ARE very Needleworky subjects !!!!!of course !!! I never said that they were. Please don't put words in my mouth. And when the towers fell i was amongst those trying to help from my experience ,,,,, Your answer only strengthens my Knowledge that this group keeps Double standards ,,, when it is other people`s pains, it suddenly isn`t not the place ??? No, Mirjam. People have often posted their condolences to you for attacks on innocent people in Israel. And I have never objected to those posts, although some might have complained that they were off topic. There isn't a double standard, except by you. You want people to behave in a way in which you yourself refuse to behave. may i keep your post and send to every non needlework subject that appears on this NG ,,,,, Why my post? Make your own damned post if you want to send it to every non-needlework subject. Why make me be the evil one? Besides, if you were going to send that post to others, you would have to be sure that they were making an off topic post after complaining about off topic posts, since that was my point to you. This is a needlework newsgroup, Mirjam. If you want that sort of outpouring, I suggest you go to talk.politics. Well Elizabeth i am Human , i am living on the streets of my country and i mourn ,,,, why can`t i for once pour my Feelings here , am i an outcast ??? others share here every detail of their life ,,, even their drinking habits , the medicines they use, the operations they go through and i can`t Lament the murder of babies ?? Why Elizabeth , are this babies less than others ???? I didn't say that. Nor would I have objected to your expressing your feelings of sorrow. What I object to is being chastized for not posting something off topic, especially when you are one of the first to complain about off topic posts. If you want to post about how awful you think the bombing of the UN headquarters is, feel free. But how DARE you accuse me and others of not caring because we didn't post about it here? You have no idea what I care about or don't care about and yet you presume to call people here, and me as one of them, uncaring. It's infuriating, and I'm sure you didn't think it would go without response. I guess things had gotten too quiet around here for you and you just couldn't resist stirring the pot. Elizabeth -- *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~living well is the best revenge~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* The most important thing one woman can do for another is to illuminate and expand her sense of actual possibilities. --Adrienne Rich *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* |
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"Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote . I waited and hoped that somebody , on this Ng that are so quick to attack me about everything pribvate and political ,will get up and say some words against Terrorism (snip) .. now where are you all the people who claim they are not Anti Semite , (snip) where are your remarks ,, now ?? My thought on these things are where they always are---not on this newgroup, but in my prayers (which, since I am one of the writers for my congregation, are often also public prayers). I pray, because that has meaning for me. Some people post, some people think about things inwardly, some go and read the news and learn more. We do not all do things the same way. Dawne |
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Thank you Mrs PP , for the compliment ,, you calling me agressive has
made my day ,,, as it comes from such an Expert in agressiveness , mirjam I just wish we had more Israeli posters on here. As it is, we only have Mirjam and her aggressive reaction to most people. Even heropening post on this thread was totally aggressive. Pat P. wrote in message .. . On Sat, 23 Aug 2003 06:52:18 GMT, (Mirjam Bruck-Cohen) wrote: Yes Elizabeth you are right , this is a needlework group , which never stopped many here to discuss Their problems with pedophilic priests , their gardens, coffee, chocolate, rgeumatic problems, diet, mothers in law education, punishing kids and what not, planning military carreers ALL those ARE very Needleworky subjects !!!!!of course !!! And when the towers fell i was amongst those trying to help from my experience ,,,,, Your answer only strengthens my Knowledge that this group keeps Double standards ,,, when it is other people`s pains, it suddenly isn`t not the place ??? may i keep your post and send to every non needlework subject that appears on this NG ,,,,, This is a needlework newsgroup, Mirjam. If you want that sort of outpouring, I suggest you go to talk.politics. Well Elizabeth i am Human , i am living on the streets of my country and i mourn ,,,, why can`t i for once pour my Feelings here , am i an outcast ??? others share here every detail of their life ,,, even their drinking habits , the medicines they use, the operations they go through and i can`t Lament the murder of babies ?? Why Elizabeth , are this babies less than others ???? They are not less, nor more, than other babies. They are the same babies as the Palestinian babies who routinely are also murdered. It would seem it is to go on, and on, and on....until one or both sides stop. This is NOT the route to a solution for either side. I thought you once claimed that you never started the off topic threads, but only responded to others who started them? Elizabeth |
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