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SNIGDIBBLY wrote:
Apparently, no one ever registered her birth and she didn't get one until she was ready to retire and needed it for Social Security. Her birth certificate of record is based on sworn affadavits from her maternal aunts who were present at her birth. Ain't life and family history a hoot? Yes it is a hoot. My grandmother was born in the late 1800 in Michigan's UP. It took month before her birth was officially registered. Anyway, when she went to collect Social Security, she had to get a baptismal certificate. Imagine her shock when her name was NOT the one she thought it was! Turned out that the uncle who took her to get registered did not like the name his sister had picked out. So he just picked a different one and never told anyone. liz young in sunny, breezy california |
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My dad's legal birthday is a week off. I guess when his grandma
went to town she registered it but looked at the calender wrong. Must have happened often. Taria Elizabeth Young wrote: Yes it is a hoot. My grandmother was born in the late 1800 in Michigan's UP. It took month before her birth was officially registered. Anyway, when she went to collect Social Security, she had to get a baptismal certificate. Imagine her shock when her name was NOT the one she thought it was! Turned out that the uncle who took her to get registered did not like the name his sister had picked out. So he just picked a different one and never told anyone. liz young in sunny, breezy california |
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See how interesting family history is? My gr gr grandfather fought in
the Civil War, was captured, and died in Vicksburg exactly two years to the day that his wife wrote in her diary she was afraid she'd never see him again. I have some Bible pages from my grandmother that indicate a relationship existed between my gr gr grandfather (Isaac Hemminger,. b. Ohio 1830) and a man named Lewis Hemminger. I can find Lewis's family back to kingdom come, but no mention of Isaac, even though the Bible pages indicate Lewis was the uncle of Isaac's daughter, Ella May. A descendent of Lewis e-mailed me their family tree, but he didn't know anything about Isaac. I know so much about Isaac, but not how he is related to Lewis nor who his parents were. Ahhhh history's mysteries. I'll never understand why anyone would ridicule someone for their ancestry. How wonderful that you have her birth certificate. What would they have done if there weren't anyone still alive who knew her from birth? I occasionally visit a genealogy newsgroup and someone was asking how to record it when a child was the product of a same sex marriage. Interesting how times change. SNIGDIBBLY wrote: I was an adult and my Granny Pete was dead when I learned that my mother's biological father wasn't her legal father. My Granny Pete was pregnant with another mans baby when she married my Granddaddy Pete. My mother's bio-dad was one Wallace Beck, a full blood Chickasaw. He was 54 and my granny was 18 at the time of conception. My grandparents married in March, 1927 and my mother was born 6/2/1927. OOPS!!! The family story goes that Granny told Granddaddy to go and get her mother because she was having a gall bladder attack. Imagine my grandfathers shock when he came in from the field to find a black hair, black eyed, olive skinned little girl. Granddaddy had virtually no formal education (I taught him to sign his own name on his checks when I was 13) but he knew enough about biology to know it takes 9 months to make a baby. Supposedly, he told Granny "Nola - that is my child and we will never speak of this again." Some nosey relatives made it their business to inform my mother of her ancestry. My mother was ridiculed as a half breed all her life and was ashamed of her ancestory as a result. It was like pulling hens teeth to get it out of her when I went to college. I knew we were Indian because I attended Indian schools as a child in Bell, OK (Tahlequah, OK is the Cherokee Tribal Headquarters). I have a copy of her corrected birth certificate with her bio father's name on it and her rightful maiden name. Apparently, no one ever registered her birth and she didn't get one until she was ready to retire and needed it for Social Security. Her birth certificate of record is based on sworn affadavits from her maternal aunts who were present at her birth. Ain't life and family history a hoot? |
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I've helped same sex parents register their childs birth. If female, under
"mother" you put Mary Jones and Sue Smith. If male - under "father" you put John Jones and Sam Smith. The other gender parent is left blank. It causes a little confusion with the bureaucrats at first but they can just get over themselves. A court order of the legal adoption puts a stop to that nonsense in a hurry. There are just too many children out there in the world growing up in temporary foster homes without forever parents. What goes on behind the closed door of a bedroom doesn't have a thing to do with loving a child and providing a safe and stable environment for them while they grow up. I have worked with same sex parents and their problems are just like traditional parents. The love and concern for the child are all the same. -- http://community.webshots.com/user/snigdibbly SNIGDIBBLY ~e~ " / \ http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/snigdibbly. http://www.ebaystores.com/snigdibbly...ox&refid=store "Phyllis Nilsson" wrote in message ... See how interesting family history is? My gr gr grandfather fought in the Civil War, was captured, and died in Vicksburg exactly two years to the day that his wife wrote in her diary she was afraid she'd never see him again. I have some Bible pages from my grandmother that indicate a relationship existed between my gr gr grandfather (Isaac Hemminger,. b. Ohio 1830) and a man named Lewis Hemminger. I can find Lewis's family back to kingdom come, but no mention of Isaac, even though the Bible pages indicate Lewis was the uncle of Isaac's daughter, Ella May. A descendent of Lewis e-mailed me their family tree, but he didn't know anything about Isaac. I know so much about Isaac, but not how he is related to Lewis nor who his parents were. Ahhhh history's mysteries. I'll never understand why anyone would ridicule someone for their ancestry. How wonderful that you have her birth certificate. What would they have done if there weren't anyone still alive who knew her from birth? I occasionally visit a genealogy newsgroup and someone was asking how to record it when a child was the product of a same sex marriage. Interesting how times change. SNIGDIBBLY wrote: I was an adult and my Granny Pete was dead when I learned that my mother's biological father wasn't her legal father. My Granny Pete was pregnant with another mans baby when she married my Granddaddy Pete. My mother's bio-dad was one Wallace Beck, a full blood Chickasaw. He was 54 and my granny was 18 at the time of conception. My grandparents married in March, 1927 and my mother was born 6/2/1927. OOPS!!! The family story goes that Granny told Granddaddy to go and get her mother because she was having a gall bladder attack. Imagine my grandfathers shock when he came in from the field to find a black hair, black eyed, olive skinned little girl. Granddaddy had virtually no formal education (I taught him to sign his own name on his checks when I was 13) but he knew enough about biology to know it takes 9 months to make a baby. Supposedly, he told Granny "Nola - that is my child and we will never speak of this again." Some nosey relatives made it their business to inform my mother of her ancestry. My mother was ridiculed as a half breed all her life and was ashamed of her ancestory as a result. It was like pulling hens teeth to get it out of her when I went to college. I knew we were Indian because I attended Indian schools as a child in Bell, OK (Tahlequah, OK is the Cherokee Tribal Headquarters). I have a copy of her corrected birth certificate with her bio father's name on it and her rightful maiden name. Apparently, no one ever registered her birth and she didn't get one until she was ready to retire and needed it for Social Security. Her birth certificate of record is based on sworn affadavits from her maternal aunts who were present at her birth. Ain't life and family history a hoot? |
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Of course, in genealogy it is about the birth of the generations, so if
one of the women has given birth to the child, she is listed as the mother, and her partner is listed as "mate" or "partner". Same with a man who has fathered a child. If the child is adopted, of course that also is listed. Sometimes a child is adopted by the birth parent's new spouse and that is listed also. SNIGDIBBLY wrote: I've helped same sex parents register their childs birth. If female, under "mother" you put Mary Jones and Sue Smith. If male - under "father" you put John Jones and Sam Smith. The other gender parent is left blank. It causes a little confusion with the bureaucrats at first but they can just get over themselves. A court order of the legal adoption puts a stop to that nonsense in a hurry. There are just too many children out there in the world growing up in temporary foster homes without forever parents. What goes on behind the closed door of a bedroom doesn't have a thing to do with loving a child and providing a safe and stable environment for them while they grow up. I have worked with same sex parents and their problems are just like traditional parents. The love and concern for the child are all the same. |
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oh, thanks for posting this snigs. some of our best friends are a
lesbian couple that adopted a girl that had been in foster care all her life. they got her when she was 7, she is 13 now. they are great parents to her and I couldnt care less that they are two women, but some people dont think they should have had the right to adopt her. this girl was really screwed up by her foster family by the way, a heterosexual, very religious couple that specialized in children with health issues. I wouldnt be surprised if some type of abuse went on, sometimes she has the weirdest reactions and attitudes, for example she did not believe I was a doctor but had no trouble believing DH was one. SNIGDIBBLY wrote: I've helped same sex parents register their childs birth. If female, under "mother" you put Mary Jones and Sue Smith. If male - under "father" you put John Jones and Sam Smith. The other gender parent is left blank. It causes a little confusion with the bureaucrats at first but they can just get over themselves. A court order of the legal adoption puts a stop to that nonsense in a hurry. There are just too many children out there in the world growing up in temporary foster homes without forever parents. What goes on behind the closed door of a bedroom doesn't have a thing to do with loving a child and providing a safe and stable environment for them while they grow up. I have worked with same sex parents and their problems are just like traditional parents. The love and concern for the child are all the same. -- Dr. Quilter http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali (take the dog out for a walk) |
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Family Trees ( was: Chocolate gravy
Thank Goodness she has your friends to "cure" the problem of her early
education by the misinformed. Two of my best friends are a lesbian couple. They were both straight (heterosexual) before they met each other. They just celebrated 30 years together and yes, they are legally married. They both worked at university in Boston and have been together ever since. They are the most accepting, nonjudgemental and intelligent women I know and I am so glad they call me friend. They raise Llamas for a hobby. The humor that I share here is from my friend who has a doctorate in Theology - the Reverand is a lesbian and has never married. She calls me her "token straight" friend. LOL!! The best mentor I ever had was the County Administrator where I worked and she was a lesbian. I don't know why but some of the women that I have respected more than any others have been Gay. I have had several Gay couples (male and female) in my caseload at various times and found them to be loving and committed to the children in their care. They are more open minded, less prejudiced and more relaxed as parents. They lovd with all their hearts and I know the children they cared for were blessed by them. I never saw a hidden agenda. Unfortunately, not the case in some Foster Parents who are in for the money, to save souls, and other less appetizing reasons that you might suspect. Pedophiles occasionally make it thru the screening process and get into Fostering for the sole purpose of gaining more victims. -- http://community.webshots.com/user/snigdibbly SNIGDIBBLY ~e~ " / \ http://members.ebay.com/aboutme/snigdibbly. http://www.ebaystores.com/snigdibbly...ox&refid=store "DrQuilter" wrote in message ... oh, thanks for posting this snigs. some of our best friends are a lesbian couple that adopted a girl that had been in foster care all her life. they got her when she was 7, she is 13 now. they are great parents to her and I couldnt care less that they are two women, but some people dont think they should have had the right to adopt her. this girl was really screwed up by her foster family by the way, a heterosexual, very religious couple that specialized in children with health issues. I wouldnt be surprised if some type of abuse went on, sometimes she has the weirdest reactions and attitudes, for example she did not believe I was a doctor but had no trouble believing DH was one. SNIGDIBBLY wrote: I've helped same sex parents register their childs birth. If female, under "mother" you put Mary Jones and Sue Smith. If male - under "father" you put John Jones and Sam Smith. The other gender parent is left blank. It causes a little confusion with the bureaucrats at first but they can just get over themselves. A court order of the legal adoption puts a stop to that nonsense in a hurry. There are just too many children out there in the world growing up in temporary foster homes without forever parents. What goes on behind the closed door of a bedroom doesn't have a thing to do with loving a child and providing a safe and stable environment for them while they grow up. I have worked with same sex parents and their problems are just like traditional parents. The love and concern for the child are all the same. -- Dr. Quilter http://community.webshots.com/user/mvignali (take the dog out for a walk) |
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