Can't stand it!!

The third item finished this week is ready for the Orvus wash tomorrow,
and a trip to the framer on Friday. Actually, it has been in a big 2 gal
plastic bag for a couple of years, so hasn't got dusty. The framer has
to make a small frame that matches the original (stitched about 10 years
ago), and will be a "dangle". Jim had upgraded his Ham license, and had
a new callsign AB4JM (he figured he could remember his initials). Nyssa,
frm At Rivers Edge" charted it for me and sent it as an email. She is a
Ham too, like both of us.

Gill

From what I have heard, Ham Operators are getting away from voice and going
back to the old "Dit, Dit,Dit, Dah, Dah, Dah, Dit, Dit, Dit stuff - true or
false??? I never could master the rhythm!

Fred
http://www.stitchaway.com
If nothing changes, nothing changes.
Don't back stitch to email, just stitchit.


"Gillian Murray" wrote in message
...
The third item finished this week is ready for the Orvus wash tomorrow,
and a trip to the framer on Friday. Actually, it has been in a big 2 gal
plastic bag for a couple of years, so hasn't got dusty. The framer has to
make a small frame that matches the original (stitched about 10 years
ago), and will be a "dangle". Jim had upgraded his Ham license, and had a
new callsign AB4JM (he figured he could remember his initials). Nyssa, frm
At Rivers Edge" charted it for me and sent it as an email. She is a Ham
too, like both of us.

Gill

On Wed, 20 Jul 2011 17:15:37 -0400, Gillian Murray
wrote:

Nyssa,
frm At Rivers Edge" charted it for me and sent it as an email. She is a
Ham too, like both of us.


I did her Calling CQ for my dad before he got his Extra and changed
his sign. I offered to redo it (shuddering at the thought of those
sine waves) but he likes it as a historical record.

Sara, DD of N3HG

On 7/20/11 5:15 PM, Gillian Murray wrote:
The third item finished this week is ready for the Orvus wash tomorrow,
and a trip to the framer on Friday. Actually, it has been in a big 2 gal
plastic bag for a couple of years, so hasn't got dusty. The framer has
to make a small frame that matches the original (stitched about 10 years
ago), and will be a "dangle". Jim had upgraded his Ham license, and had
a new callsign AB4JM (he figured he could remember his initials). Nyssa,
frm At Rivers Edge" charted it for me and sent it as an email. She is a
Ham too, like both of us.

Gill
you're making those needles SMOKE!

On 21/07/2011 07:27, Fred wrote:
From what I have heard, Ham Operators are getting away from voice and going
back to the old "Dit, Dit,Dit, Dah, Dah, Dah, Dit, Dit, Dit stuff - true or
false??? I never could master the rhythm!

I agree, Fred. In the "old days" you built your own equipment with
whatever you could lay your hands on. Finishing a piece of equipment,
testing it and using it for the first time to contact someone a few
miles away (or even thousands of miles away) was quite an achievement.
Nowadays you go into a shop, buy the equipment, switch it on and talk -
no satisfaction at all. I spent my time in the RAF as a telegraphist
(morse & teletype) followed by 30 years in the civil service as a
government radio officer - when I finally retired 7 years ago everything
was computerised (and very soul-less!)
Bruce

) writes:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:04:25 +0100, Bruce
wrote:

On 21/07/2011 07:27, Fred wrote:
From what I have heard, Ham Operators are getting away from voice and going
back to the old "Dit, Dit,Dit, Dah, Dah, Dah, Dit, Dit, Dit stuff - true or
false??? I never could master the rhythm!

I agree, Fred. In the "old days" you built your own equipment with
whatever you could lay your hands on. Finishing a piece of equipment,
testing it and using it for the first time to contact someone a few
miles away (or even thousands of miles away) was quite an achievement.
Nowadays you go into a shop, buy the equipment, switch it on and talk -
no satisfaction at all. I spent my time in the RAF as a telegraphist
(morse & teletype) followed by 30 years in the civil service as a
government radio officer - when I finally retired 7 years ago everything
was computerised (and very soul-less!)
Bruce

And then there was semaphore .........


I dont think you are correct Fred. With digitization, you can get the
clarity you need, without going to Morse Code. There is a web site
http://www.solarham.com/ where radio amateurs hang out; if you are
interested. But this is waaaay OT. Jim.

On 7/21/2011 9:11 AM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 14:04:25 +0100,
wrote:

On 21/07/2011 07:27, Fred wrote:
From what I have heard, Ham Operators are getting away from voice and going
back to the old "Dit, Dit,Dit, Dah, Dah, Dah, Dit, Dit, Dit stuff - true or
false??? I never could master the rhythm!

I agree, Fred. In the "old days" you built your own equipment with
whatever you could lay your hands on. Finishing a piece of equipment,
testing it and using it for the first time to contact someone a few
miles away (or even thousands of miles away) was quite an achievement.
Nowadays you go into a shop, buy the equipment, switch it on and talk -
no satisfaction at all. I spent my time in the RAF as a telegraphist
(morse& teletype) followed by 30 years in the civil service as a
government radio officer - when I finally retired 7 years ago everything
was computerised (and very soul-less!)
Bruce

And then there was semaphore .........


LOL remembering learning semaphore for my girl scout badge. I'd stand in
the street alongside my house, with a friend two blocks away, and we'd
send each other signals. I can still remember most of the alphabet...but
sure can't "read" it backwards like I used to!

sue (anybody have any use for an old GS sash with LOTS of badges??)

--
Susan Hartman

On 7/21/2011 6:36 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 16:57:28 -0400, Susan Hartman
wrote:


And then there was semaphore .........


LOL remembering learning semaphore for my girl scout badge. I'd stand in
the street alongside my house, with a friend two blocks away, and we'd
send each other signals. I can still remember most of the alphabet...but
sure can't "read" it backwards like I used to!

sue (anybody have any use for an old GS sash with LOTS of badges??)

Lol, I don't think they do badges anymore do they ? Under that
stupid idea that it's not good for some kids to feel they didn't win -
sigh.

That was one easy badge for me as my father taught me semaphore as we
used to speak between yachts when ocean racing in semaphore.

Sheena were you a fan of Swallows and Amazons (by Arthur Ransome)???
That is when I thought semaphore might be useful, and in Girl Guides of
course I really learned it.

My very old pal from S&A days have some stories to tell about this! LOL
We just found each other on Facebook after 45 years!

Morse I learned..but not the current way of listening...S dot dot dot etc

I wouldn't have changed my safe, free but war-time exciting childhood
for anything.

So sorry for the so sheltered kids of today.

Gill

On 7/21/2011 2:27 AM, Fred wrote:
From what I have heard, Ham Operators are getting away from voice and going
back to the old "Dit, Dit,Dit, Dah, Dah, Dah, Dit, Dit, Dit stuff - true or
false??? I never could master the rhythm!

Fred
http://www.stitchaway.com
If nothing changes, nothing changes.
Don't back stitch to email, just stitchit.


"Gillian wrote in message
...
The third item finished this week is ready for the Orvus wash tomorrow,
and a trip to the framer on Friday. Actually, it has been in a big 2 gal
plastic bag for a couple of years, so hasn't got dusty. The framer has to
make a small frame that matches the original (stitched about 10 years
ago), and will be a "dangle". Jim had upgraded his Ham license, and had a
new callsign AB4JM (he figured he could remember his initials). Nyssa, frm
At Rivers Edge" charted it for me and sent it as an email. She is a Ham
too, like both of us.

Gill



Fred it was in early 2008 that a knowledge of Morse Code was no longer
needed for the Ham upper levels. Jim..an electrical/electronic engineer
hated it, and psyched himself out of it. I think as an ex-Brit Girl
Guide, I MIGHT have handled it, but wasn't sufficiently interested. At
the next big testing following the new law. JIm immediately aced both
upper levels.

His thoughts, are that there are so many different facets to Amateur
Radio these days, why make just one specific facet a requisite. There
are APRS. Echo-links and a mass more.

I keep my license current, because it is extremely nice to have
communication when you are in a hurricane zone. If all else fails, cell
towers are down..Hams put up antennas, and can relay info.

Also..at age 75, will I ever be a TEN again???
Gill KC5TEN.

On 7/21/11 7:55 PM, in article ,
" wrote:

On Thu, 21 Jul 2011 19:28:03 -0400, Gillian Murray
wrote:



Sheena were you a fan of Swallows and Amazons (by Arthur Ransome)???
That is when I thought semaphore might be useful, and in Girl Guides of
course I really learned it.
Lol, I had forgotten Swallows and Amazons !

My very old pal from S&A days have some stories to tell about this! LOL
We just found each other on Facebook after 45 years!

Morse I learned..but not the current way of listening...S dot dot dot etc

I wouldn't have changed my safe, free but war-time exciting childhood
for anything.

No, it's odd, I look back on my childhood as very happy.

So sorry for the so sheltered kids of today.

Me too. I was at my daughters a few weekends ago and Marley wanted to
run back home to bring something back to show me. Her mother said she
couldn't go on her own. I pointed out it was really only about 5-7
minutes walk, why not? My granddaughter gave me a lecture about
'different today - children are snatched' I asked her to give me one,
just one example of when that had happened in our city. In the end,
Marley was allowed to do it.

It's a great shame. Recently I drove round the area where our kids
grew up. No more bikes lying all over the front grass, no more dogs
tagging round with their kids, nothing. Yet I knew it is still an
area of families because there are three good schools right there. I
figured they were all inside playing with their computers, 'safely'
getting fat lol

Gill

Well - you are right in that's certainly the shift. One of the things we
really like about our neighborhood - the kids are actually out there
playing. It's kind of like when DH & I were kids. The kids across the
street are playing cricket - every day. We wish they'd either play in the
street and then get out when traffic comes (we're on a cul-de-sac), or in
one of their backyards - seems the batsman is always on the high ground, so
he's always hitting into our front yard, car, etc. And a bunch of the kids
congregate at the base of the cul-de-sac, playing street hockey, or with
little scooters rambling around. Our next door neighbors - who are younger
than us -early 40's,late 30s for her - are regularly sitting out on the
driveway with kids playing out front - and other couples. It's interesting
- I think it has to do with part of how this community is set up, but there
are tons of kids activities - not so planned - and we see them outside
playing a lot. And actually riding bikes to the community pool - without an
adult. They do have to be a certain age to go in without an adult, but all
over this community we're seeing a kind of neighborly friend thing
happening. The Comm Asso actually puts on outdoor film nights weekly, and
summer concerts, and kids or teen nights at one of the pools. Other things
as well.

When we decided to build here, part of our reasoning was that we were tired
of living in a neighborhood where there was no sense of community, people
were for the most part polite, but no true friendships happening - the
couple next door that we really were friends with actually were British, and
moved away (back to Europe) about 6 months before we decided to just find a
new place. We'd visit my DB's family, and their neighborhood is also
reminiscent of how we grew up - kids playing together outside, bikes & other
things on the drives, and the parents all at least knowing each other. We
were jealous ... So, I think that where we live, the housing is a little
higher pricewise than some of the surrounding communities, but it goes with
living in this particular planned community. Not all big houses - condos,
flats, townhouses (big & smaller), and houses in a range of sizes. The
overriding thing is that people definitely made an effort to live here - and
I suspect that is because of the community feeling. I don't even yell at
the kids from across the street - although I am sorely tempted to explain to
one of the parents that they need to teach the kids to move out of the road
when traffic is coming, etc.

So, while there is plenty of crime in areas, at least around here we're
happy to see kids outside playing - and not on the computer all the time.
Which is kind of amazing in that there are a lot of parents working in the
IT world that live here. At least it's a little reassuring....

Ellice