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Old August 27th 03, 12:45 AM
GlassGuy
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Default Dicro peeling off!

Hi all!
Can anyone answer this question? I am using Sandberg "Rainbow 2" on thin
clear Bullseye,(I think). When I fire to a "tack Fuse" temp the Dichroic
peels off from the back when cooled! I've tried cooling slower, cleaning
better... I've even talked to Howard Sandberg about it! He said it
shouldn't peel... BUT IT IS PEELING! It never use to peel at all! If
anyone had experienced this problem, PLEASE let me know. And, if you have a
solution, also let me know. THANKS!

Dennis



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Old August 27th 03, 02:54 AM
Michele Blank
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got a batch once that fired the dichro off in needles. Same response but
they offered to replace any i wanted replaced. they really take care of
their customers in my experience! You say it peels off the back. I usually
put the dichro side front/top???? Are you encapsulating it with
clear/black???? Or firing dichro side down on a kiln shelf? If so, it is
most likely attaching to the kiln shelf/wash. you need a) better kiln wash
or b) to lay a layer of compatible clear?? glass down under the dichro, or
c) fire with the dichro top side. m


"GlassGuy" wrote in message
.. .
Hi all!
Can anyone answer this question? I am using Sandberg "Rainbow 2" on

thin
clear Bullseye,(I think). When I fire to a "tack Fuse" temp the Dichroic
peels off from the back when cooled! I've tried cooling slower, cleaning
better... I've even talked to Howard Sandberg about it! He said it
shouldn't peel... BUT IT IS PEELING! It never use to peel at all! If
anyone had experienced this problem, PLEASE let me know. And, if you have

a
solution, also let me know. THANKS!

Dennis





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Old August 27th 03, 01:01 PM
C Ryman
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Could you clarify what you are doing. Are you just firing a piece of
dichroic face down or something else.

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Connie Ryman
Cryman Studio
www.eclecticbeadery.com
"GlassGuy" wrote in message
.. .
Hi all!
Can anyone answer this question? I am using Sandberg "Rainbow 2" on

thin
clear Bullseye,(I think). When I fire to a "tack Fuse" temp the Dichroic
peels off from the back when cooled! I've tried cooling slower, cleaning
better... I've even talked to Howard Sandberg about it! He said it
shouldn't peel... BUT IT IS PEELING! It never use to peel at all! If
anyone had experienced this problem, PLEASE let me know. And, if you have

a
solution, also let me know. THANKS!

Dennis





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Old August 28th 03, 12:14 AM
Michele Blank
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OK first, fire with coating side up. second, Don't face dichro to dichro.
third, try a layer of thin clear on top/bottom to encapsulate the dichro.
No, it won't be too thick. I do them all the time. m


"GlassGuy" wrote in message
...
Hi again,
To clarify what I'm doing: I'm making earrings out of 2 strips of
dichroic, one laying half on top of the other, both pieces are metalic
coating side down. No, I can't fire a backing piece to the bottom because
the end result would be too thick. You were right, it comes off more like
needles, (shards), than peeling. This sheet IS a replacement from

Sandberg!
The last sheet did exactly the same thing!

Dennis


"C Ryman" wrote in message
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Could you clarify what you are doing. Are you just firing a piece of
dichroic face down or something else.

--
Connie Ryman
Cryman Studio
www.eclecticbeadery.com
"GlassGuy" wrote in message
.. .
Hi all!
Can anyone answer this question? I am using Sandberg "Rainbow 2"

on
thin
clear Bullseye,(I think). When I fire to a "tack Fuse" temp the

Dichroic
peels off from the back when cooled! I've tried cooling slower,

cleaning
better... I've even talked to Howard Sandberg about it! He said it
shouldn't peel... BUT IT IS PEELING! It never use to peel at all! If
anyone had experienced this problem, PLEASE let me know. And, if you

have
a
solution, also let me know. THANKS!

Dennis










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Old August 29th 03, 07:15 AM
GlassGuy
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Thanks for all of the suggestions everybody!!!! I guess I'll have to call
Howard Sandberg again though. I've been making the earrings for about 11
years and I know something has changed because it never peeled before. I'll
see what he suggests... But, THANK YOU all again!!!

Dennis



"Michele Blank" wrote in message
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OK first, fire with coating side up. second, Don't face dichro to dichro.
third, try a layer of thin clear on top/bottom to encapsulate the dichro.
No, it won't be too thick. I do them all the time. m


"GlassGuy" wrote in message
...
Hi again,
To clarify what I'm doing: I'm making earrings out of 2 strips of
dichroic, one laying half on top of the other, both pieces are metalic
coating side down. No, I can't fire a backing piece to the bottom

because
the end result would be too thick. You were right, it comes off more

like
needles, (shards), than peeling. This sheet IS a replacement from

Sandberg!
The last sheet did exactly the same thing!

Dennis


"C Ryman" wrote in message
...
Could you clarify what you are doing. Are you just firing a piece of
dichroic face down or something else.

--
Connie Ryman
Cryman Studio
www.eclecticbeadery.com
"GlassGuy" wrote in message
.. .
Hi all!
Can anyone answer this question? I am using Sandberg "Rainbow 2"

on
thin
clear Bullseye,(I think). When I fire to a "tack Fuse" temp the

Dichroic
peels off from the back when cooled! I've tried cooling slower,

cleaning
better... I've even talked to Howard Sandberg about it! He said it
shouldn't peel... BUT IT IS PEELING! It never use to peel at all!

If
anyone had experienced this problem, PLEASE let me know. And, if

you
have
a
solution, also let me know. THANKS!

Dennis













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Old August 30th 03, 08:23 AM
Robert Clement
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HI GUYS........
"GlassGuy" wrote in message
.. .
Hi all!
Can anyone answer this question? I am using Sandberg "Rainbow 2" on

thin
clear Bullseye,(I think). When I fire to a "tack Fuse" temp the Dichroic
peels off from the back when cooled! I've tried cooling slower, cleaning
better... I've even talked to Howard Sandberg about it! He said it
shouldn't peel... BUT IT IS PEELING! It never use to peel at all! If
anyone had experienced this problem, PLEASE let me know. And, if you have

a
solution, also let me know. THANKS!

Dennis





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Old August 30th 03, 05:48 PM
nJb
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GlassGuy wrote:

Thanks for all of the suggestions everybody!!!! I guess I'll have to call
Howard Sandberg again though. I've been making the earrings for about 11
years and I know something has changed because it never peeled before. I'll
see what he suggests... But, THANK YOU all again!!!

Dennis


In your original post: "I am using Sandberg "Rainbow 2" on thin clear
Bullseye,(I think)."

11 years, and you don't know what kind ot glass you're using?
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