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Old August 6th 05, 07:19 AM
John Batt
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I have a problem that is driving me crazy. I have an agate slab abt
2.5 in. long and close to 2 in. wide and about an 11/0 on it's side
thick. It's a cross between a ruby red mixed with a dark amber in color
and I want to put it in a beaded bezeland hang it off a russian spiral
necklace. I've tried modifying instructions for beaded cabs but they
aren't working. Does anyone know where I can get instructions for
beading a stone slab?

John Batt
Who knows how to follow the first rule of holes -- when you're in one
stop digging. jbatt at fiberpipe dot net
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Old August 6th 05, 07:33 AM
Marisa Cappetta
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What's actually going wrong with the bezel? I've beaded a bezel around a
large piece of paua shell that was slightly twisted. It was difficult, but
not impossible. It should be possible to bead a stone slab. If you could
describe the nature of the problem someone might be able to better answer
your question.
Marisa AU/NZ

"John Batt" wrote in message
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I have a problem that is driving me crazy. I have an agate slab abt
2.5 in. long and close to 2 in. wide and about an 11/0 on it's side
thick. It's a cross between a ruby red mixed with a dark amber in color
and I want to put it in a beaded bezeland hang it off a russian spiral
necklace. I've tried modifying instructions for beaded cabs but they
aren't working. Does anyone know where I can get instructions for
beading a stone slab?

John Batt
Who knows how to follow the first rule of holes -- when you're in one
stop digging. jbatt at fiberpipe dot net



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Old August 6th 05, 08:16 AM
John Batt
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Marisa Cappetta wrote:
What's actually going wrong with the bezel? I've beaded a bezel around a
large piece of paua shell that was slightly twisted. It was difficult, but
not impossible. It should be possible to bead a stone slab. If you could
describe the nature of the problem someone might be able to better answer
your question.
Marisa AU/NZ

"John Batt" wrote in message
news:1123308949.e254776e4d3cf426e6bef6ba25734229@t eranews...

I have a problem that is driving me crazy. I have an agate slab abt
2.5 in. long and close to 2 in. wide and about an 11/0 on it's side
thick. It's a cross between a ruby red mixed with a dark amber in color
and I want to put it in a beaded bezeland hang it off a russian spiral
necklace. I've tried modifying instructions for beaded cabs but they
aren't working. Does anyone know where I can get instructions for
beading a stone slab?


I don't want any backing on it because the light shining thru it is
gorgeous so I'm trying to do it in peyote with japanese 11's. It's not
a perfect oval, it has a slight kidney shape to it and the side are not
like this | | but like this / /.

My general plan was to make a circle of beads that goes around the
outside and then do 4 rows of peyote around the ring then start a 1 bead
decrease every other row to bring it towards the center for about 5 to 6
rows or 1/4 in. which ever comes first. Then drop the slab in and
repeat the process on the other side. Sounds pretty straight forward.

The problem is that by the time I start on the third row it looks like a
ruffled cuff. I've never had this particular problem with peyote before
and trying to keep the work from ruffling is makeing me crazy.

John
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Old August 6th 05, 11:20 AM
Shirley Shone
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John, start the ring with larger size beads then reduce the bead size as
you progress the rounds. Work The back same as the front.

Shirley




In message 1123312352.aaeaf2fc777b648d4be5806363f1f7d3@teran ews, John
Batt writes
Marisa Cappetta wrote:
What's actually going wrong with the bezel? I've beaded a bezel around a
large piece of paua shell that was slightly twisted. It was difficult, but
not impossible. It should be possible to bead a stone slab. If you could
describe the nature of the problem someone might be able to better answer
your question.
Marisa AU/NZ

"John Batt" wrote in message
news:1123308949.e254776e4d3cf426e6bef6ba25734229@t eranews...

I have a problem that is driving me crazy. I have an agate slab abt
2.5 in. long and close to 2 in. wide and about an 11/0 on it's side
thick. It's a cross between a ruby red mixed with a dark amber in color
and I want to put it in a beaded bezeland hang it off a russian spiral
necklace. I've tried modifying instructions for beaded cabs but they
aren't working. Does anyone know where I can get instructions for
beading a stone slab?


I don't want any backing on it because the light shining thru it is
gorgeous so I'm trying to do it in peyote with japanese 11's. It's not
a perfect oval, it has a slight kidney shape to it and the side are not
like this | | but like this / /.

My general plan was to make a circle of beads that goes around the
outside and then do 4 rows of peyote around the ring then start a 1 bead
decrease every other row to bring it towards the center for about 5 to 6
rows or 1/4 in. which ever comes first. Then drop the slab in and
repeat the process on the other side. Sounds pretty straight forward.

The problem is that by the time I start on the third row it looks like a
ruffled cuff. I've never had this particular problem with peyote before
and trying to keep the work from ruffling is makeing me crazy.

John


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Old August 6th 05, 11:21 AM
Marisa Cappetta
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Ok, I think I may be able to help. Instead of decreasing the number of beads
try this. Make your circle to fit the slab, then weave your 4 rows of
peyote. Continue in peyote using beads a size down. I went from 8's to 11's
and if necessary you can do one more row in the next size down. Weave the
thread through the last row and pull it up firmly to secure. On close
inspection, some thread will show so choose a colour that is as
inconspicuous as possible. Fit your slab, face up into the resulting seat.
Weave to the other side of the bezel and continue to peyote in the smaller
bead size/s. The bezel securing the slab in place with begin to form. Weave
as many rows as you need to secure the slab. This creates a 'backless'
bezel. It's a little tricky to get the piece to stay put and may take some
coaxing. The paua I used took coaxing and swearing, but I got it there in
the end.

If the circle is starting to ruffle before you weave in the smaller beads,
check the uniformity of the beads you are using. For a bezel you need quite
uniform beads or it goes rather wonky. I recommend Japanese seed beads for
bezels.

Hope that helps.
Marisa AU/NZ

"John Batt" wrote in message
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Marisa Cappetta wrote:
What's actually going wrong with the bezel? I've beaded a bezel around a
large piece of paua shell that was slightly twisted. It was difficult,

but
not impossible. It should be possible to bead a stone slab. If you could
describe the nature of the problem someone might be able to better

answer
your question.
Marisa AU/NZ

"John Batt" wrote in message
news:1123308949.e254776e4d3cf426e6bef6ba25734229@t eranews...

I have a problem that is driving me crazy. I have an agate slab abt
2.5 in. long and close to 2 in. wide and about an 11/0 on it's side
thick. It's a cross between a ruby red mixed with a dark amber in color
and I want to put it in a beaded bezeland hang it off a russian spiral
necklace. I've tried modifying instructions for beaded cabs but they
aren't working. Does anyone know where I can get instructions for
beading a stone slab?


I don't want any backing on it because the light shining thru it is
gorgeous so I'm trying to do it in peyote with japanese 11's. It's not
a perfect oval, it has a slight kidney shape to it and the side are not
like this | | but like this / /.

My general plan was to make a circle of beads that goes around the
outside and then do 4 rows of peyote around the ring then start a 1 bead
decrease every other row to bring it towards the center for about 5 to 6
rows or 1/4 in. which ever comes first. Then drop the slab in and
repeat the process on the other side. Sounds pretty straight forward.

The problem is that by the time I start on the third row it looks like a
ruffled cuff. I've never had this particular problem with peyote before
and trying to keep the work from ruffling is makeing me crazy.

John



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Old August 6th 05, 03:17 PM
Dr. Sooz
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Try containing it with netting instead.

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Old August 6th 05, 08:22 PM
Christina Peterson
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First let me recommend that the Japanese beads you use are seed beads and
not delicas. Delicas are like tiles that lock in, whereas seed beads are
more rounded will squirm into a better fit, especially on a curved or
irregular shaped stone.

Basically you'll be doing free-form peyote in as regular a pattern as you
can manage. Or else regular peyote with a lot of adjustment for curves.

Tina



"John Batt" wrote in message
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Marisa Cappetta wrote:
What's actually going wrong with the bezel? I've beaded a bezel around a
large piece of paua shell that was slightly twisted. It was difficult,

but
not impossible. It should be possible to bead a stone slab. If you could
describe the nature of the problem someone might be able to better

answer
your question.
Marisa AU/NZ

"John Batt" wrote in message
news:1123308949.e254776e4d3cf426e6bef6ba25734229@t eranews...

I have a problem that is driving me crazy. I have an agate slab abt
2.5 in. long and close to 2 in. wide and about an 11/0 on it's side
thick. It's a cross between a ruby red mixed with a dark amber in color
and I want to put it in a beaded bezeland hang it off a russian spiral
necklace. I've tried modifying instructions for beaded cabs but they
aren't working. Does anyone know where I can get instructions for
beading a stone slab?


I don't want any backing on it because the light shining thru it is
gorgeous so I'm trying to do it in peyote with japanese 11's. It's not
a perfect oval, it has a slight kidney shape to it and the side are not
like this | | but like this / /.

My general plan was to make a circle of beads that goes around the
outside and then do 4 rows of peyote around the ring then start a 1 bead
decrease every other row to bring it towards the center for about 5 to 6
rows or 1/4 in. which ever comes first. Then drop the slab in and
repeat the process on the other side. Sounds pretty straight forward.

The problem is that by the time I start on the third row it looks like a
ruffled cuff. I've never had this particular problem with peyote before
and trying to keep the work from ruffling is makeing me crazy.

John



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Old August 16th 05, 10:48 PM
John Batt
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Sorry to be tardy replying to everyone who tried to assist me. I picked
up the latest copy of BEADWORK and there was an article by Dustin
Wedekind on making a bezel with RAW and it worked like a charm. # rows
of 11/0 right angle cinched down with a couple of rows of delica peyote.

As soon as the necklace is finished I'll post it on my website for all
to see.

John

John Batt wrote:
I have a problem that is driving me crazy. I have an agate slab abt
2.5 in. long and close to 2 in. wide and about an 11/0 on it's side
thick. It's a cross between a ruby red mixed with a dark amber in color
and I want to put it in a beaded bezeland hang it off a russian spiral
necklace. I've tried modifying instructions for beaded cabs but they
aren't working. Does anyone know where I can get instructions for
beading a stone slab?

John Batt
Who knows how to follow the first rule of holes -- when you're in one
stop digging. jbatt at fiberpipe dot net

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Old September 24th 05, 09:40 PM
John Batt
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On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 00:19:45 -0600, John Batt wrote:

I have a problem that is driving me crazy. I have an agate slab abt
2.5 in. long and close to 2 in. wide and about an 11/0 on it's side
thick. It's a cross between a ruby red mixed with a dark amber in color
and I want to put it in a beaded bezeland hang it off a russian spiral
necklace. I've tried modifying instructions for beaded cabs but they
aren't working. Does anyone know where I can get instructions for
beading a stone slab?

On Sat, 06 Aug 2005 00:19:45 -0600, John Batt wrote:

I have a problem that is driving me crazy. I have an agate slab abt
2.5 in. long and close to 2 in. wide and about an 11/0 on it's side
thick. It's a cross between a ruby red mixed with a dark amber in color
and I want to put it in a beaded bezeland hang it off a russian spiral
necklace. I've tried modifying instructions for beaded cabs but they
aren't working. Does anyone know where I can get instructions for
beading a stone slab?

Hi all,

I got the necklace done and it is at

http://www.thebattcave.net/crafts/eyeofra.html

I submitted it to Beadwork for their W.O.R.D. column and they said it will
be in an upcoming issue. I'm getting ready to start a new one with a
different colored agate slab.

John

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typewriters will eventually reproduce the works of Shakespeare.
Now, thanks to the Internet, we know this is not true."
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