Shawl update

In article ,
says...
Slinky wrote:

* ~ more major snippage ~ *

Please be assured that if you used a "nospam" filter I'd have chewed you
privately, you didn't leave me the option.

Here's what she (Jane) used for an address:

("Jane" )


Methinks this may be the same person who tried to smear our Gemini!
(different name, same ranting tone)
Noreen
who is still woohooing at Slinky's response to Jane's garbage.

--
Noreen's Knit*che
(Knitting, Crocheting, Tatting & BobbinLace are my NICHE in life...)
NATA #447
(my family tree is FULL of 'nuts')

I am sittin here nodding in agreement with both Carol and Jenn, the term
"savant" comes to mind.....
JM2C
Noreen

--
Noreen's Knit*che
(Knitting, Crocheting, Tatting & BobbinLace are my NICHE in life...)
NATA #447
(my family tree is FULL of 'nuts')

| On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 23:39:56 -0500, Noreen's Knit*che wrote:

Here's what she (Jane) used for an address:

("Jane" )


Methinks this may be the same person who tried to smear our Gemini!
(different name, same ranting tone)
Noreen
who is still woohooing at Slinky's response to Jane's garbage.

I wouldn't be at all surprised, Noreen. That really has the look of a
troll address. Thank heavens for kill filters. Agent's filter kindly offers
to screen the messages you've already downloaded, so I was spared 5
messages in the folder as well.



Helen "Halla" Fleischer,
Fantasy & Fiber Artist in Fairland, MD USA
http://home.covad.net/~drgandalf/halla/

| On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 18:48:56 -0300, "Katherine Burgess" wrote:

But you know, I think that it would
make more sense to insist on improvements in the public school system. As
long as people are willing to pay the fees to send their children to private
schools, improvements won't happen.

I thoroughly agree with that sentiment, Katherine. Seems to me that all
this talk of vouchers and such is yet one more way of crippling the public
schools.


Helen "Halla" Fleischer,
Fantasy & Fiber Artist in Fairland, MD USA
http://home.covad.net/~drgandalf/halla/

| On Thu, 07 Aug 2003 02:28:57 GMT, "SlinkyToy" wrote:

repetetive (sp) work -- Thomas learned to knit about six months ago.
His "scarf for granpa" is now about 6 feet long. During the week it goes
with him to preschool where he knits during group and other "quiet
community" periods, and the knitting comes home in the evenings. At bedtime
he knits while I read the story. Then the Knitting Fairy fixes mistakes as
he lacks the patience to let me teach him how to correct them himself. I
intend to see to it that ALL the kids in his K class learn to knit if they
want to (I've taught several of his pre-K mates already) so that knitting
will be a group-type activity instead of the potentially isolating activity
it might otherwise be.

That is super. I know it helped me sustain longer attention spans in that
class and it was much better when there were several of us.

The school is being REALLY REALLY slow getting out class assignments.
They've got a new computer system (M$QL, horrors!) and are telling me they
had some last-minute drops and adds that have affected the m/f balance [ed:
what did we ever do without computers? how on earth did universities and
high schools and even large elementaries make class assignments? BY HAND!!
And in a timely fashion!!]. Which leads me up to the fact that I have not
yet had an opportunity to confab with his teacher. The elementary office
knows what's going on WRT the ADD and the meds but I doubt anyone has
bothered to give any of the info to the K teachers.

I did some subbing in a kindergarten with ADD kids. I did not have the
stamina for it! It especially stinks when you're not forewarned.

if you don't bitch it won't get fixed. I agree wholeheartedly that a
fix is needed for AISD. They're getting better after the cooked books
scandal, but finding teachers is still an issue, and the Robin Hood thing
makes it even worse. AISD WAS at one time a decent school district with
room for improvement and only a few really crummy schools. I suppose it is
true that all items in acommon container will attempt to reach the lowest
level -- that's surely happening in Texas education *sigh*

Big sigh shared! I often wonder if turning our backs on the tough problems
is an hereditary American trait, considering how many of our ancestors did
exactly that in deciding to come here. I know all of mine did.


Helen "Halla" Fleischer,
Fantasy & Fiber Artist in Fairland, MD USA
http://home.covad.net/~drgandalf/halla/

You're right Noreen. One of them was Eleanor -- but if you do a search in
google for Jane's email address in this usenet group, she was in there too,
talking about Gemini and complaining about OT posts.


"Noreen's Knit*che" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...
Slinky wrote:

* ~ more major snippage ~ *

Please be assured that if you used a "nospam" filter I'd have chewed you
privately, you didn't leave me the option.

Here's what she (Jane) used for an address:

("Jane" )


Methinks this may be the same person who tried to smear our Gemini!
(different name, same ranting tone)
Noreen
who is still woohooing at Slinky's response to Jane's garbage.

--
Noreen's Knit*che
(Knitting, Crocheting, Tatting & BobbinLace are my NICHE in life...)
NATA #447
(my family tree is FULL of 'nuts')

"Helen "Halla" Fleischer" wrote ...
| On Wed, 6 Aug 2003 18:48:56 -0300, "Katherine Burgess"
wrote:

But you know, I think that it would
make more sense to insist on improvements in the public school system. As
long as people are willing to pay the fees to send their children to
private
schools, improvements won't happen.

I thoroughly agree with that sentiment, Katherine. Seems to me that all
this talk of vouchers and such is yet one more way of crippling the public
schools.

And, from what I understand, many schools in the States get funding
depending on test scores. I have heard rumours that Canada is going that
way, too! I sincerely hope not!
Katherine

"Helen "Halla" Fleischer" wrote
, "Katherine Burgess" wrote:

And, from what I understand, many schools in the States get funding
depending on test scores. I have heard rumours that Canada is going that
way, too! I sincerely hope not!
Katherine

Which in turn leads to "teaching to the test" and a more restricted
education. Sigh.

And with standardised tests - well, you can imagine what happens to
creativity.
Katherine

| On Thu, 7 Aug 2003 12:16:55 -0300, "Katherine Burgess" wrote:

Which in turn leads to "teaching to the test" and a more restricted
education. Sigh.

And with standardised tests - well, you can imagine what happens to
creativity.

Been there, done that, got a steadier job in the city with less stress,
working for the IRS. I didn't say no stress! Ended up retiring from that
when I was spending more days with migraines than without.


Helen "Halla" Fleischer,
Fantasy & Fiber Artist in Fairland, MD USA
http://home.covad.net/~drgandalf/halla/

In article , "Katherine
Burgess" wrote:

Slinky,
From having taught (or tried to teach) ADD children, I know that many of
them DO benefit from Ritalin. I pray that your son is one of them. Meantime,
I would add my voice to the other voices here and say that I hope you
eventually find a therapist who can connect with him. There is untapped
wealth inside that little boy, and he should be able to get it out.
Hugs,
Katherine

Coming in on the tail end of this conversation, I would also suggest
getting in contact with a support group. You may find many answers there
from parents struggling with the same problems.

I also know from a friend who is suffering from manic depressive
attacs...that medicines do work. It is worth trying to see what works for
you and your child. It is also a know fact that children and adulds as
well, who have these dissabillities are often very creative, and that this
is their very strong point. The Toronto Globe and Mail, ran a very good
article about one such dissabillity last Saturday, if you would like to
read it, E-mail me and I will get it to you.

I admire your stamina and strength with this. Come talk to us about it,
if it helps

Els

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