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Old September 15th 09, 10:38 AM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
Ganesh
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There are various methods of setting a stone to a ring or other
ornaments.

E.g. In case of Prong setting there's very little metal that holds the
stone.

Advantage:- the stone is completely exposed.
Disadvantage:- the thin metal holdings eventually loosens often
letting the stone fall, or they break.

What are the various latest techniques to make these thin holders
perfect to lead a longer life.
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Old September 15th 09, 10:48 AM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
Peter W. Rowe[_2_]
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On Tue, 15 Sep 2009 02:38:01 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry Ganesh
wrote:

There are various methods of setting a stone to a ring or other
ornaments.

E.g. In case of Prong setting there's very little metal that holds the
stone.

Advantage:- the stone is completely exposed.
Disadvantage:- the thin metal holdings eventually loosens often
letting the stone fall, or they break.

What are the various latest techniques to make these thin holders
perfect to lead a longer life.


I don't know about anything especially new or "latest", but there are a number
of "tried and true" methods that help.

1. Use a larger number of prongs. 6, instead of 4, or 8 or more instead. More
prongs, more secure.
2. Use a stronger metal. yellow golds and high karat golds are softer, so they
wear down faster. Use a harder or more wear resistant metal (18K white gold,
for example, or a properly made platinum setting), and the settings will last
longer. If done correctly, sometimes much longer.
3. Don't use prongs that fit your description of "very little metal" or "thin
metal". Prongs need to look proportionate the the work, but they do not need to
be excessively thin The wire or shape they are made from can be thicker below
the girdle of the stone, helping the prong resist bending below the stone, and
the metal coming over the stone likewise can be quite sturdy, especially with
larger stones, where larger guage metal can be used. Then shape the prongs so
they have a nice graceful shape rather than being clumsy lumps, and even with
sturdy prongs, you can have a good and delicate look. One sees many antique
pieces where the metal in prongs now is excessivly thin, but it's a mistake to
think these were all made that thin in the first place.
4. Use chevron shaped prongs on points and corners. Stronger than simple wire
prongs.
5. dont set stones way up high in the air over a mounting. They should be high
enough to display well, but lower is stronger. Modern cut stones generally
don't rely for their beauty, of light entering the sides or bottom, so there's
no optical reason to totally expose the sides or bottom of the stone.
6. Critical to long wear in a sitting is the way the seat is cut and fitted to
the stone. if the stone is properly seated in the prongs, they will hold the
stone longer and much more securly than if the seat does not fit the stone well,
or is cut too far into the prong.
7. and finally, though I'm sure I could add more to the above list, if long
wear and durabilty is the issue, then use another type of setting. half bezels
can look very elegant, yet still show the profile of the stone nicely. Full
bezels are less revealing, but can still show the stone to great advantage, and
a well made and well set bezel is highly durable.

Peter
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Old September 17th 09, 12:19 AM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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Ganesh wrote:
Disadvantage:- the thin metal holdings eventually loosens often
letting the stone fall, or they break.


You're not doing it right.

Learn to do it properly and they don't fall out.

My mother's engagement ring is now 57 years old.

It has, so far, not needed tightening once.

I can recommend the short course in diamond setting run by the
University of Central England at the Central Jewellery School.

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Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat
single handed with a quarterstaff.
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Old September 25th 09, 06:43 AM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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Default Setting Stones to jewelry

In article , Peter W. Rowe
wrote:
2. Use a stronger metal. yellow golds and high karat golds are softer,
so
they
wear down faster. Use a harder or more wear resistant metal (18K white
gold,
for example.


Some years ago, I used to make a few bracelets from stainless steel. Is it a
practical proposition to mount cubic zirconia "jewels" in them? There was a
fair amount of shock when the bracelet was closed
...Using epoxy-glue gave a poor result, either because the glue spoiled the
refectivity of the stone, or the shock loosened it.

I am only a hobbyist, so please do nto waste too much tiime on this.

With kind regards to all thos who provide me with much entertainment and
information on this site
- G.H.Ireland

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Old July 20th 10, 01:28 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr G H Ireland[_2_] View Post
In article , Peter W. Rowe
wrote:
2. Use a stronger metal. yellow golds and high karat golds are softer,
so
they
wear down faster. Use a harder or more wear resistant metal (18K white
gold,
for example.


Some years ago, I used to make a few bracelets from stainless steel. Is it a
practical proposition to mount cubic zirconia "jewels" in them? There was a
fair amount of shock when the bracelet was closed
...Using epoxy-glue gave a poor result, either because the glue spoiled the
refectivity of the stone, or the shock loosened it.

I am only a hobbyist, so please do nto waste too much tiime on this.

With kind regards to all thos who provide me with much entertainment and
information on this site
- G.H.Ireland

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I could not agree more! There are many discussions about which software to use for design and rendering, but why worry about the quality of rendering the original design can be set so bad that stones are never?
A major benefit of us all that we can piece we just edit the file, or find some other casting wax and cast to grow again after the discovery of a problem. Had been carved by hand or piece of jewelry made from wire and sheet, it would be a very costly mistake. Stones and settings I had problems initially, but once you learn how easy it is to small to allow for clearance between the right is.
As Pat says the study, other jewelers work, how they set their stones particular focus. Claw design, size and location. Once you have a good understanding of the basic design and incredibly detailed pieces you find any traditional jewelers will scare the hell out of running can cause.
A pendant designed to make it as simple or complex as you like. Then imagine how long it would take to hand carve all matching earrings or make? Then copy, paste, scale down and Rhino mirror and there you have your earrings!
With a bit of practice with under 60 seconds you should be able to produce basic earrings hook attachment pin or perhaps a bit of extra time.
In this case we're all lucky, we make advances in traditional jeweler designs also show why do not we all can not imagine Rafael and the world that we just are not buying their software around like other software developers People, we are all masters. Let's begin to show the world images of beauty ornaments that really sang to manufacture and practical to wear.
Please, just as the adverts say bra with stones scattered around with no more bizarre creations, "showing no sign of support!" !
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Old February 4th 11, 06:27 AM
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Wherever you get your diamond set, ask if they insure the diamond. Make sure that your diamond is insured BEFORE you have this set by a jeweler. The folks who are setting a diamond purchased elsewhere generally don’t cover the diamond in the case of a setting accident.
 




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