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Old November 2nd 08, 01:09 AM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
Rich[_2_]
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I've got some vintage small silver and sterling silver chains, but I
don't know what they are called or what they are used for.

The silver items consist of chains 55mm long and about 2mm diameter. On
one end is clip-like device. The other terminates into something that
looks like a coat hanger about 15mm long. But this is also a sort of
clip, and you can attach things to it (pendants?).

The sterling-silver items also consist of chains 55mm long, 2mm
diameter.They just terminate in rings slightly bigger rings.

What are these items called? Thanks.




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Old November 2nd 08, 06:05 AM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
Sterling
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I couldn't be sure without pictures, but it sounds like a tie clip to me


Sterling


"Rich" wrote in message
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I've got some vintage small silver and sterling silver chains, but I
don't know what they are called or what they are used for.

The silver items consist of chains 55mm long and about 2mm diameter. On
one end is clip-like device. The other terminates into something that
looks like a coat hanger about 15mm long. But this is also a sort of
clip, and you can attach things to it (pendants?).

The sterling-silver items also consist of chains 55mm long, 2mm
diameter.They just terminate in rings slightly bigger rings.

What are these items called? Thanks.





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Old November 2nd 08, 05:28 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
Rich[_2_]
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Hi.

Here are some pictures of things. Can you please tell me their names and
what they are for?

Thanks.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/richard...JEWELLERY.html


"Sterling" wrote in message
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I couldn't be sure without pictures, but it sounds like a tie clip to
me


Sterling


"Rich" wrote in message
...
I've got some vintage small silver and sterling silver chains, but I
don't know what they are called or what they are used for.

The silver items consist of chains 55mm long and about 2mm diameter.
On
one end is clip-like device. The other terminates into something that
looks like a coat hanger about 15mm long. But this is also a sort of
clip, and you can attach things to it (pendants?).

The sterling-silver items also consist of chains 55mm long, 2mm
diameter.They just terminate in rings slightly bigger rings.

What are these items called? Thanks.






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Old November 2nd 08, 05:47 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
Peter W.. Rowe,
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On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 08:28:38 -0800, in rec.crafts.jewelry "Rich"
wrote:

Hi.

Here are some pictures of things. Can you please tell me their names and
what they are for?

Thanks.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/richard...JEWELLERY.html


First off, these aren't finsihed total pieces of jewelry. They're "parts", also
known as findings. You can do further research on such parts in suppliers of
parts and findings to the jewelry industry. Stuller, Rio Grande, Otto Frei,
etc, all carry such things for sale to jewelers. Rio's online catalog will
show prices once you register for the site. The other two will show you the
pieces, but not prices, without registration, but for those, registration
requires a sales tax or business registration number...

The first piece of chain is a bit odd. It "looks" a bit like a standard "safety
chain", used to bridge the gap of a bracelet so it cannot fall off if it opens
accidentally. But those are usually about 2 or three inches long, not five. So
my best guess is that this was intended to allow one to lengthen a neck chain.
that would make it a necklace or chain extender. Or perhaps it's just a piece
of extra bulk chain with a couple end links...

The second one? Well, it looks like you pin the one end to your clothing, and
hook something else to the other end. Duh. But what it's called? I don't
know. Your original description sounded like some type of tie chain. but this
doesn't look like any tie clip I've seen. Maybe it's also some sort of safety
chain, hooked to a brooch or other item so it can't be lost? Or? Dunno. Might
be a pocket watch chain, but seems too short for that...

The third, the pin, is a "pin stem". It's the replacement pin part for when
someone breaks the pin on their brooch, and you have to replace it. Sold in a
variety of styles, metals, and lengths to jewelry repair shops.

The fourth photo is two different items. The one on the right is a standard tie
tack clutch back. The knob, when pulled back, releases the grip on the tie tack
post inserted into the front. The T bar on the end of the chain goes through a
button hole to secure the tie in approximate position on your shirt. If you
remove the chain from the clutch, then it can be used as well for lapel pins.

The one on the left, might be also a similar type of tie tack or lapel pin
clutch, but I'm not sure. No visible mechanism, but it might be just a friction
thing. Not sure. The empty end of the chain might be missing a T bar or Button
loop (a keyhole shaped loop that slips over a button, instead of the T bar that
goes through a button hole.

Your last item does indeed look like a replacement end piece for a watch strap.
The little tube would become the middle knuckle in a hinge, and the wide wire
loop would be attached to the strap. What to call it? How about a replacement
watch strap end...

Peter
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Old November 3rd 08, 04:40 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
Ben Smith
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Item 2 is a brooch safety chain, used as Peter suggests.
I agree with him on the other bits.
Item 5 is indeed for attaching a strap to a watch case. A lot of pre-war
watches had bracelets attached to the case wth a knuckle joint and these
loops enabled a replacwment strap or a bracelet with tube ends to be fitted.
They were usually made of gilt metal or rolled gold. I doubt if they are
available any more. I cant remember what they were called either.
Regards Ben



"Peter W.. Rowe," wrote in message
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On Sun, 02 Nov 2008 08:28:38 -0800, in rec.crafts.jewelry "Rich"


wrote:

Hi.

Here are some pictures of things. Can you please tell me their names and
what they are for?

Thanks.

http://homepage.ntlworld.com/richard...JEWELLERY.html


First off, these aren't finsihed total pieces of jewelry. They're

"parts", also
known as findings. You can do further research on such parts in

suppliers of
parts and findings to the jewelry industry. Stuller, Rio Grande, Otto

Frei,
etc, all carry such things for sale to jewelers. Rio's online catalog

will
show prices once you register for the site. The other two will show you

the
pieces, but not prices, without registration, but for those, registration
requires a sales tax or business registration number...

The first piece of chain is a bit odd. It "looks" a bit like a standard

"safety
chain", used to bridge the gap of a bracelet so it cannot fall off if it

opens
accidentally. But those are usually about 2 or three inches long, not

five. So
my best guess is that this was intended to allow one to lengthen a neck

chain.
that would make it a necklace or chain extender. Or perhaps it's just a

piece
of extra bulk chain with a couple end links...

The second one? Well, it looks like you pin the one end to your clothing,

and
hook something else to the other end. Duh. But what it's called? I

don't
know. Your original description sounded like some type of tie chain. but

this
doesn't look like any tie clip I've seen. Maybe it's also some sort of

safety
chain, hooked to a brooch or other item so it can't be lost? Or? Dunno.

Might
be a pocket watch chain, but seems too short for that...

The third, the pin, is a "pin stem". It's the replacement pin part for

when
someone breaks the pin on their brooch, and you have to replace it. Sold

in a
variety of styles, metals, and lengths to jewelry repair shops.

The fourth photo is two different items. The one on the right is a

standard tie
tack clutch back. The knob, when pulled back, releases the grip on the

tie tack
post inserted into the front. The T bar on the end of the chain goes

through a
button hole to secure the tie in approximate position on your shirt. If

you
remove the chain from the clutch, then it can be used as well for lapel

pins.

The one on the left, might be also a similar type of tie tack or lapel pin
clutch, but I'm not sure. No visible mechanism, but it might be just a

friction
thing. Not sure. The empty end of the chain might be missing a T bar or

Button
loop (a keyhole shaped loop that slips over a button, instead of the T bar

that
goes through a button hole.

Your last item does indeed look like a replacement end piece for a watch

strap.
The little tube would become the middle knuckle in a hinge, and the wide

wire
loop would be attached to the strap. What to call it? How about a

replacement
watch strap end...

Peter



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Old November 3rd 08, 04:40 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
Rich[_2_]
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Thanks for the input.

1 I reckon is certainly a safety chain. It's 2.5" long.
2 Dad was a watch repairer. Wonder of it's a fob watch thingy.
3 Pin stem
4 Tie tack clutch backs (Both probably)
5 Watch strap end piece or similar.


http://homepage.ntlworld.com/richard...JEWELLERY.html

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Old November 3rd 08, 04:40 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
Rich[_2_]
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Mmmm item 2 seems also to be safety chain, like you speculated,
according to:


http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/VINTAGE-9ct-GOLD-BROOCH-SAFETY-CHAINS-x-4-1950s_W0QQitemZ270296255027QQcmdZViewItem?hash=ite m270296255027&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A 1345|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318

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Old November 13th 08, 04:47 PM posted to rec.crafts.jewelry
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Hello,

Number one is indeed a standard safety chain for a bracelet. Standard
sizes are 4 or 5cm.

Number two is a safety chain for a brooch. It looks like the pin is
not sharp though in the pic... it might just be the photo, but
sometimes they are blunt so the sharp point doesn't split and fray the
fabric (kind of like how you use a ball-point needle when sewing knit
fabric). You can file it to a point if you want to. The other end
attaches to the back of the brooch and the safety pin is usually
hidden under the brooch.

Number three is a brooch pin.

Number four : The one on the right is definately a tie tack back or
clutch. The bar is inserted in to a button hole behind the tie as a
safety measure. The one on the left could be a similar thing with the
bar missing or.... does it have a hole in the other side? If not, I'm
assuming it also a safety chain for a tie bar and the 'button' goes in
a button hole behind the tie. If the other side of the 'button' is
plain or has a pattern, it could avtually be a decorative button that
is missing a safety pin on the other end. Sometimes these are worn in
a top button hole on a shirt or even the little button holes on some
collars and the chain would have a safety pin on the other end (like
the one on the brooch safety chain) which is hidden inside the shirt
or under the collar. Of course, if it's meant for the collar hole,
there should be two of them...

Number five is a bit of a mystery... looks to me like something that
was made for a specific item. Looks like one side of a hinge... sorry,
can't help with that one.

Tracy
 




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