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On Jan 10, 9:00*pm, lucretia borgia
wrote: On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:52:02 -0500, Cheryl Isaak opined: If all Sid the Kid does is whine and dive and plays superb hockey, great. *I despise the violence in sports and I also despise what these so-called *stars* get away with like biting ears off, raping women and abusing animals. *They should never be allowed back into what they call sports today in my opinion. Sharon (N.B.) agreed Is Sid the Kid Sidney Crosby ? *As in the kid who came from across the harbour from me ? He seems to be quite a nice young man, has done a lot for a local team who were suffering from a severe lack of funds. *He seemed a good role model for kids I thought, but then I don't really follow what they do. That's the *kid* ... I've not heard a bad thing about him and he is a terrific hockey player. Sharon (N.B.) |
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On Jan 10, 8:02*pm, Sharon wrote:
On Jan 10, 8:02*pm, wrote: On Jan 10, 10:48*am, Sharon wrote: On Jan 10, 2:11*am, wrote: On Jan 9, 9:48*pm, Sharon wrote: On Jan 9, 6:14*pm, wrote: On Jan 8, 9:57*pm, lucretia borgia wrote: On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:56:56 -0600, Jangchub opined: The terms are ridiculous, not how they are received by people. *This actually is a right of my country to free speech. *So, it's not a freedom I've had to give up yet. *I have no control over how anyone feels about what anyone says to anyone. *Just as you have no control over how I feel or receive information. *I don't take things personally that strangers say. *The terms are ridiculous. *Not the people. Victoria That's the way with Americans, they don't think about other cultures and how things they say or do appear to them. *It leads to trouble. That's the way with people who live in Canada, they love to make ridiculous generalizations about Americans as if we were all alike. It leads to trouble. Elizabeth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That is not the way with everyone in Canada - now who's making generalizations? *Geeesh Sharon (N.B.) Oferxessake, have you no sense of irony? *All I did was parrot Sheena back to herself with a few select changes. *Did it **** you off? Good. *Now you know how her statement made me feel. Elizabeth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No it didn't **** me off - I think it just showed your true character.. Sharon (N.B.) I'm not sure how a sarcastic remark could show anything about my character other than that I can be sarcastic, but whatever. Elizabeth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh I can understand sarcasim .. I'm very good at it myself .. so maybe we do understand where each of us is coming from. *Like you say - whatever. *Shake? Make it an ice cream soda and you're on. Elizabeth |
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On Jan 10, 8:12*pm, Jangchub wrote:
I think people are going to be very surprised at many things Obama will do with is administration. I've already been (unpleasantly) surprised by some of his cabinet picks. Elizabeth |
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On Jan 10, 9:09*pm, wrote:
On Jan 10, 8:02*pm, Sharon wrote: On Jan 10, 8:02*pm, wrote: On Jan 10, 10:48*am, Sharon wrote: On Jan 10, 2:11*am, wrote: On Jan 9, 9:48*pm, Sharon wrote: On Jan 9, 6:14*pm, wrote: On Jan 8, 9:57*pm, lucretia borgia wrote: On Thu, 08 Jan 2009 16:56:56 -0600, Jangchub opined: The terms are ridiculous, not how they are received by people. *This actually is a right of my country to free speech. *So, it's not a freedom I've had to give up yet. *I have no control over how anyone feels about what anyone says to anyone. *Just as you have no control over how I feel or receive information. *I don't take things personally that strangers say. *The terms are ridiculous.. *Not the people. Victoria That's the way with Americans, they don't think about other cultures and how things they say or do appear to them. *It leads to trouble. That's the way with people who live in Canada, they love to make ridiculous generalizations about Americans as if we were all alike. It leads to trouble. Elizabeth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - That is not the way with everyone in Canada - now who's making generalizations? *Geeesh Sharon (N.B.) Oferxessake, have you no sense of irony? *All I did was parrot Sheena back to herself with a few select changes. *Did it **** you off? Good. *Now you know how her statement made me feel. Elizabeth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No it didn't **** me off - I think it just showed your true character. Sharon (N.B.) I'm not sure how a sarcastic remark could show anything about my character other than that I can be sarcastic, but whatever. Elizabeth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Oh I can understand sarcasim .. I'm very good at it myself .. so maybe we do understand where each of us is coming from. *Like you say - whatever. *Shake? Make it an ice cream soda and you're on. Elizabeth- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - No problem!! :-)) Sharon (N.B.) |
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"Cheryl Isaak" wrote SNIP I was trying to explain to DS why what Avery said was just plain wrong. No doubt he was trying to enrage Phaneuf, but it was wrong, disgusting and just plain mean spirited. I would hope that DS gets it - the whole comment was derogatory towards women, his ex-girlfriend, and just stupid. The guy is clearly an ass, and a dirty, whiny guy on the ice. His take is that if Bettman isn't handing down big penalties to Ruutu or Bertuzzi for intent to injury, or to players calling each other all manner of nasty things, then his reaction to Avery is over the top. Name calling, whether it is girlfriend, wife, mother or sister is just not in the same league as trying to bite someone's finger off. Part of what brought the league down hard on Avery was that he called a press conference in order to make his nasty little comment, which makes it different from trashing talking on the ice in the heat of the moment or as part of the game (not saying I am in favour of those). It was very deliberate and calulated, which makes it that much more offensive. He obviously thought he was very clever. Calling the sports reporters together that way meant the league had no way of saying they weren't aware of it, or nobody heard what was actually said, even if they had wanted to. You get the feeling over all that both the league and his team were waiting for a clear opportunity to dump this idiot, and he gave it to them. Dawne |
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Yes Dear Vistoria, he, (Your Messiah Obama) is going to pay off my
mortgage and walk on water!!!! I'm sooooooo excited I will pee my pants!!!!!!! Of course remember Bush had been trying to clean up a lot fo crap Clinton left laying around....and he tried without cigars!!!!!!! (You rarely have anything good to say about anyone else either......) Jayne |
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"Jangchub" wrote in message ... On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 09:58:37 -0800 (PST), Sharon wrote: Was I talking to you? Don't think so. You don't own this group yet me darlin' so I'll post whenever I feel like it. Go preach to a weed. Sharon (N.B.) More lovliness... Victoria http://gotbodhicitta-wangmo.blogspot.com/ Updated daily when able. Peace, children - I love BOTH of you! LOLOL! Pat |
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On 1/10/09 7:51 PM, "Cheryl Isaak" wrote:
On 1/10/09 10:32 AM, in article , "ellice" wrote: On 1/10/09 9:34 AM, "Cheryl Isaak" wrote: On 1/10/09 9:21 AM, in article , "ellice" wrote: SNIP I was trying to explain to DS why what Avery said was just plain wrong. No doubt he was trying to enrage Phaneuf, but it was wrong, disgusting and just plain mean spirited. I would hope that DS gets it - the whole comment was derogatory towards women, his ex-girlfriend, and just stupid. The guy is clearly an ass, and a dirty, whiny guy on the ice. His take is that if Bettman isn't handing down big penalties to Ruutu or Bertuzzi for intent to injury, or to players calling each other all manner of nasty things, then his reaction to Avery is over the top. Name calling, whether it is girlfriend, wife, mother or sister is just not in the same league as trying to bite someone's finger off. I guess it's hard to explain decorum, generally disgusting behavior - while not a physical issue is still disgraceful. Parallel track of bad. Oh - he accepts what Avery said is bad - is just that it appears that he was singled out for over the top punishment. That some one that did something equally bad isn't getting the equivalent punishment. I won't quote DearSon, but it was along the lines that Ruutu got his knuckles whacked with a ruler while Avery lost significant pieces of anatomy C Ah. I think the issue with Avery has to do with the venue of his lack of judgement. His punishment from the team is there choice - most of them have morals, behaviour, media clauses in their contracts. The fact that the guy is so stupid as to not apologize or recognize his lack of couth, well.... And with a league trying to show its cleaned up image, recruit fans, etc. There are reasonable rules in place to deal with codified misbehaviou - like Ruutu's - it's the things that go over the line - whether it's spitting or public asinine statements that open a player up to different, or seemingly harsher, punitive measures. Years ago the CAPS had an incident which involved young ladies who wwre in a bar (worked there) hooking up with some CAPS, in a limo, in Georgetown. And some "activity" of a sexual nature. IIRC, there were 2 guys in the limo, one quite a star (who had a lengthy career and you'd know the name), the 3rd guy was outside - holding a bucket of chicken - seriously. It wasn't intercourse, but evidently the young lady (using the term loosely) had volunteered a certain other activity. Turned out after that the girl was under 18 or 21 (and the former Redskin who owned the bar was in trouble 'cause she was serving alcohol). The players - while idiots indulging in groupie offers - thought since she was serving in the bar she was of age. Anyhow - DH knows the details well - we refer to it as the "limo" incident - one of our friends was so heartbroken by the aftermath that he would cross the street rather than walk by the bar/resto of the event. Well, point being, somehow this activity was found out - I think the girl wanted something, and within the day the 2 in the limo who participated were GONE, and the poor guy who "just held the bucket of chicken" was traded within another couple of days - and he was the innocent young one. The prior owner had very strong feelings about behaviour and morality, family values, and if anyone on the teams didn't act accordingly - they were gone. He traded away a couple of the Wizards for public misbehaviour. One of our friends had been sort of seeing the "bucket of chicken" guy - nothing serious - and she still hasn't gotten over it! Ellice |
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On Jan 11, 9:00*am, Jangchub wrote:
On Sun, 11 Jan 2009 12:13:13 GMT, lucretia borgia wrote: On Sat, 10 Jan 2009 19:12:32 -0600, Jangchub opined: Cogent to my original post that got this going, I see that Obama's aides are saying his first foreign visit will be to Canada. * There's a glimmer of light, for a long time that has been tradition, broken only by GWB jr. I believe GWB thought Mexico was the best friend of the USA, of course now maybe he realizes that displayed poor judgment, especially where drugs were concerned. GWB is not a Jr. *His father is GHWB. He's a minor to me. I think people are going to be very surprised at many things Obama will do with is administration. Victoria http://gotbodhicitta-wangmo.blogspot.com/ Updated daily when able. Well this is just following what had been a tradition until he came along. Yes, I known that. *What I'm happy about is the restoration to our country what is either good policy, and traditional. *We used to be a good role model. *The current admin lost the plot. I think you might want to read up on your history a little, Vic. Really. |
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