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Seeking Advice on jewelry moldings and metal supplys.
Hello (im new here)
I was hoping somebody in this newsgroup might be able to offer me some advice on a jewellery collection i am trying to market. I already have a collection made up (not available for viewing yet)which i am contracted to begin marketing soon but also need to have new designs made up in the existing style. I am only contracted to the existing collection and so have no experience dealing with goldsmiths and jewelers. I was hoping somebody might give me a rough ballpark estimate with example links to the costs of having new designs made into molds for gold, silver, white gold, and platinum in the full range of carats. I am also in the market for perhaps finding a new source for our gold/silv/platinum supply and wanted to know which countries are generally concidered the cheapest/best places to buy from. The existing collection is available in 14carot only, and i am told by the artist her current goldsmith insists it is not possible to have the current collection in a higher carat due to the softness of the metals. I am unsure if this response is simply because the artist does not have the time to arange higher carats or if the reasons given are genuine. I was hoping to market the collection as being available in the highest carats and finest quality diamonds and would apreciate any advice on limitations that may exist and how i might find a way around these limitations to provide the best quality materials. So much info exists on the net, it makes it difficult to filter the quality from the masses of junk, so im hoping for some pointers or shortcuts here. I will soon be moving production to eastern europe due to the very low costs of labour there and so sourcing metals and manufacturing the pieces from molds are taken care of already. I simply need to have some molds made up and find a supplier of metals and the finest quality small diamonds for rings etc. Many thanks for any advice offered. A |
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Seeking Advice on jewelry moldings and metal supplys.
ME wrote:
Hello (im new here) I was hoping somebody in this newsgroup might be able to offer me some advice on a jewellery collection i am trying to market. I already have a collection made up (not available for viewing yet)which i am contracted to begin marketing soon but also need to have new designs made up in the existing style. I am only contracted to the existing collection and so have no experience dealing with goldsmiths and jewelers. I was hoping somebody might give me a rough ballpark estimate with example links to the costs of having new designs made into molds for gold, silver, white gold, and platinum in the full range of carats. I am also in the market for perhaps finding a new source for our gold/silv/platinum supply and wanted to know which countries are generally concidered the cheapest/best places to buy from. The existing collection is available in 14carot only, and i am told by the artist her current goldsmith insists it is not possible to have the current collection in a higher carat due to the softness of the metals. I am unsure if this response is simply because the artist does not have the time to arange higher carats or if the reasons given are genuine. I was hoping to market the collection as being available in the highest carats and finest quality diamonds and would apreciate any advice on limitations that may exist and how i might find a way around these limitations to provide the best quality materials. So much info exists on the net, it makes it difficult to filter the quality from the masses of junk, so im hoping for some pointers or shortcuts here. I will soon be moving production to eastern europe due to the very low costs of labour there and so sourcing metals and manufacturing the pieces from molds are taken care of already. I simply need to have some molds made up and find a supplier of metals and the finest quality small diamonds for rings etc. Many thanks for any advice offered. A If you have to come here for advice, you are in the wrong business my friend. Your questions are the ones from someone who has no business being in this business. Take your money and run! -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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Seeking Advice on jewelry moldings and metal supplys.
"ME" wrote in message news Hello (im new here) I was hoping somebody in this newsgroup might be able to offer me some advice on a jewellery collection i am trying to market. I already have a collection made up (not available for viewing yet)which i am contracted to begin marketing soon but also need to have new designs made up in the existing style. I am only contracted to the existing collection and so have no experience dealing with goldsmiths and jewelers. I was hoping somebody might give me a rough ballpark estimate with example links to the costs of having new designs made into molds for gold, silver, white gold, and platinum in the full range of carats. I am also in the market for perhaps finding a new source for our gold/silv/platinum supply and wanted to know which countries are generally concidered the cheapest/best places to buy from. The existing collection is available in 14carot only, and i am told by the artist her current goldsmith insists it is not possible to have the current collection in a higher carat due to the softness of the metals. I am unsure if this response is simply because the artist does not have the time to arange higher carats or if the reasons given are genuine. I was hoping to market the collection as being available in the highest carats and finest quality diamonds and would apreciate any advice on limitations that may exist and how i might find a way around these limitations to provide the best quality materials. So much info exists on the net, it makes it difficult to filter the quality from the masses of junk, so im hoping for some pointers or shortcuts here. I will soon be moving production to eastern europe due to the very low costs of labour there and so sourcing metals and manufacturing the pieces from molds are taken care of already. I simply need to have some molds made up and find a supplier of metals and the finest quality small diamonds for rings etc. Many thanks for any advice offered. You gotta be kidding right? You want us to help you to make our lives harder? It sounds to me like "her current goldsmith" is just about to lose some work. With the way you're talking about jewellery, you're way out of your league already. John |
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Seeking Advice on jewelry moldings and metal supplys.
Abrasha wrote: ME wrote: Hello (im new here) I was hoping somebody in this newsgroup might be able to offer me some advice on a jewellery collection i am trying to market. I already have a collection made up (not available for viewing yet)which i am contracted to begin marketing soon but also need to have new designs made up in the existing style. I am only contracted to the existing collection and so have no experience dealing with goldsmiths and jewelers. I was hoping somebody might give me a rough ballpark estimate with example links to the costs of having new designs made into molds for gold, silver, white gold, and platinum in the full range of carats. I am also in the market for perhaps finding a new source for our gold/silv/platinum supply and wanted to know which countries are generally concidered the cheapest/best places to buy from. The existing collection is available in 14carot only, and i am told by the artist her current goldsmith insists it is not possible to have the current collection in a higher carat due to the softness of the metals. I am unsure if this response is simply because the artist does not have the time to arange higher carats or if the reasons given are genuine. I was hoping to market the collection as being available in the highest carats and finest quality diamonds and would apreciate any advice on limitations that may exist and how i might find a way around these limitations to provide the best quality materials. So much info exists on the net, it makes it difficult to filter the quality from the masses of junk, so im hoping for some pointers or shortcuts here. I will soon be moving production to eastern europe due to the very low costs of labour there and so sourcing metals and manufacturing the pieces from molds are taken care of already. I simply need to have some molds made up and find a supplier of metals and the finest quality small diamonds for rings etc. Many thanks for any advice offered. A If you have to come here for advice, you are in the wrong business my friend. Your questions are the ones from someone who has no business being in this business. Take your money and run! -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com As i stated i am in web design and marketing, not the jewellery trade, and i have a new and unique collection i am contracted to market and brand. Would i be right in saying that your comment suggests prior knowledge of jewelry craft is esential in posting to this group and that those with purely an interest are not welcome? Perhaps other people in this group might not appreciate you directing away their potential business of selling the highest quality and most expensive materials which i seek?. Perhaps someone with your stance towards potential new business has no business being in any kind of business since you have no problem with sending away the potential new business of other jewelers operating around you. Not a business skill often found in "the school of common sense business". My questions probably indeed are nieve since i openly have no knowledge of this trade and jewellery, however as some might say "everybody must start somewhere" as you yourself once did. Nobody can ever give thanks to their "start" without thanking those who were willing to share their knowledge and cooperate in the first place. words for thought i hope Kind regards...A |
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Seeking Advice on jewelry moldings and metal supplys.
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:48:58 +0000, ME wrote:
The existing collection is available in 14carot only, and i am told by the artist her current goldsmith insists it is not possible to have the current collection in a higher carat due to the softness of the metals. I am unsure if this response is simply because the artist does not have the time to arange higher carats or if the reasons given are genuine. Might well be true. Post links to a site or resource with images of images of the collection. (Don't send attachments -- this is a text only newsgroup.) No one will be able to answer that without seeing them. |
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Seeking Advice on jewelry moldings and metal supplys.
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:21:57 +0000, John wrote:
You gotta be kidding right? You want us to help you to make our lives harder? It sounds to me like "her current goldsmith" is just about to lose some work. With the way you're talking about jewellery, you're way out of your league already. John the current goldsmith will be keeping her existing work, I am seeking to develop "new pieces" which will fall under my own label which will be marketed alongside the existing collection. If you are not interested in giving quotes thats fine. I can take my business elsewhere to people eager to sell there services and make new clients who will buy the finest materials available. From the replies i am receiving so far i am suprised people like yourself and the previous hostile reply manage to forge relationships let alone forge gold. You people need a lesson in business communication skills and learn to respect potential business clients even when they may ask questions that show no prior knowledge of jewelery. For all you know i could have a global network of stores and you just turned away a million dollar business deal. Your loss, not mine. Out of my league?.....Do you think you are helping your own business by telling newcomers they are out of their league.? You only make yourself sound arrogant and obnoxious. If you were in any kind of league yourself you would show better business etiquet rather than your walmart customer service skills. Since you have no idea how much budget i have to spend you have no way of knowing if it is yourself who is way out of my league. If i owned a store i would not employ someone with your attitude to clean the toilets let alone serve potential clients with your walmart customer service skills. You are your own worst enemy with your hostile unprovoked attitude. Perhaps you make nice jewelry but your people and business skills stink. |
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Seeking Advice on jewelry moldings and metal supplys.
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 01:17:27 +0000, ME wrote:
Hello (im new here) I was hoping somebody in this newsgroup might be able to offer me some advice.... ________________________________________ Moderator's Note: This whole thread seems to be degrading into a flame war. Everyone has now had a chance to bare their armpits, so I'm soon going to call it killed unless someone actually has something to say about jewelry, or the jewelry industry. Please trim posts to only quote particular material form the previous post that is being responded to. Third party readers don't want to slog through a two page entry only to find more flames. __________________________________________ |
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Seeking Advice on jewelry moldings and metal supplys.
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 16:06:08 +0000, mbstevens wrote:
mbstevens wrote: On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:48:58 +0000, ME wrote: The existing collection is available in 14carot only, and i am told by the artist her current goldsmith insists it is not possible to have the current collection in a higher carat due to the softness of the metals. I am unsure if this response is simply because the artist does not have the time to arange higher carats or if the reasons given are genuine. Might well be true. Post links to a site or resource with images of images of the collection. (Don't send attachments -- this is a text only newsgroup.) No one will be able to answer that without seeing them. Unfortunatly i am unable to make photos available at present due to the jewellery being a unique concept joining specialist textiles to metals which we are looking into patenting before the new site is launched. I understand you are unable to give an opinion without seeing the items. I was actually trying to get an idea into the limitations of softer metals and how this applies to jewlery. Would i be right in saying that "any" piece of jewellery can be re designed into a higher carat or are some carats simply not used in the trade for certain items due to the softness of the metal?. hypothetical example: Is there a market for 24 carat watches or would a watch be too easily damaged in 24carats? I guess to sumerize or clearly explain my question: what limitations will i likely face if i want to have the existing collection and new designs made into purer materials.? Is the only limitation the shaping/design of the pieces or are their other conciderations to take into account?. Since i am hoping to source the finest materials at the cheapest possible prices i was hoping you might also have some tips for someone who has no knowledge of metals and diamonds on where they might begin. I know that the diamond trade is often seen as highly corrupt and i would apreciate some pointers or tips on how someone with no experiences might avoid getting stung without the need for years of studying metal and diamond quality theory. Can you recommend a well known reliable wholesale source which is widely recognised in the industry as being honest and reliable.? I would rather pay a slightly higher price from a know reputable source than buy from the cheapest offers. Or perhaps you know which countries are often used in the trade to source metal and diamond supplies?. Many thanks .........Regards........A |
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Seeking Advice on jewelry moldings and metal supplys.
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 18:01:42 +0000, ME wrote:
... Would i be right in saying that "any" piece of jewellery can be re designed into a higher carat No. Strength and hardness matter. or are some carats simply not used in the trade for certain items due to the softness of the metal?. Yes. But karet is not the only influence on softness. Different metals can be alloyed with gold. hypothetical example: Is there a market for 24 carat watches or would a watch be too easily damaged in 24carats? Anyone who owned a solid 24K watch would probably take very good care of it, even if it did scratch easily. I have seen none at Walmart lately, but if you visited the Rolex factory you might find some -- I don't know. If you have that kind of money to throw around, I would certainly do some statistical market research first, and I would be very, very sure I had access to high end buyers. |
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Seeking Advice on jewelry moldings and metal supplys.
On Wed, 03 Jan 2007 15:48:58 GMT, ME wrote:
Abrasha wrote: ME wrote: Hello (im new here) I was hoping somebody in this newsgroup might be able to offer me some advice on a jewellery collection i am trying to market. I already have a collection made up (not available for viewing yet)which i am contracted to begin marketing soon but also need to have new designs made up in the existing style. I am only contracted to the existing collection and so have no experience dealing with goldsmiths and jewelers. snip If you have to come here for advice, you are in the wrong business my friend. Your questions are the ones from someone who has no business being in this business. Take your money and run! -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com As i stated i am in web design and marketing, not the jewellery trade, and i have a new and unique collection i am contracted to market and brand. Would i be right in saying that your comment suggests prior knowledge of jewelry craft is esential in posting to this group and that those with purely an interest are not welcome? No, but it's certainly required to market it properly. And you really need to learn how to spell. -- Marilee J. Layman http://mjlayman.livejournal.com/ |
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