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Sam and Juliet will be taking Aikido next year. I'm glad you have a
positive experience to report about it.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


Christina Peterson wrote:
I started taking martial arts with Tai Chi. Later when I took Aikido,
another very soft art, I learned something about pain. I learned I was
morbidly afraid of causing pain. Part of it was the fear of retaliation,
having been in an abusive relationship. But part of it was about hurting
not being nice.

Aikido taught me that pain is an important teacher. Pain tells you when
you're doing something wrong, and sometimes that you are doing something
right. Pain was something I could endure, but was not willing/able to
inflict. That probably harmed my children.

Tina

Yes, I rate kindness very highly. I don't try to be nice, but I do try
to be kind.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay

Karen_AZ wrote:
Perhaps a better word would be "kind."

KarenK

Kalera wrote:

Yes, I rate kindness very highly. I don't try to be nice, but I do try
to be kind.

I'd rather be kind and good than nice.

When I die, I want to be remembered as a good person and a kind one.

-Su

--
Tillerman eBay shop: http://stores.ebay.com/thetillermanbeads
Tillerman website: http://www.tillerman.co.uk

Good way to go. When my dad passed away, I said my life was richer because
of him. One of his friends said he wished he was more like my dad. I think
that's the finest compliment. But then, to know my dad was to know great
joy.

--
El Paso Quilter's Association
http://www.geocities.com/luxy2/EPQui...sociation.html

"Su/Cutworks" wrote in message
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Kalera wrote:

Yes, I rate kindness very highly. I don't try to be nice, but I do try
to be kind.

I'd rather be kind and good than nice.

When I die, I want to be remembered as a good person and a kind one.

-Su

--
Tillerman eBay shop: http://stores.ebay.com/thetillermanbeads
Tillerman website: http://www.tillerman.co.uk

I'm talking about having a fully functional professional website developed;
if you have the skills to do it yourself and install a shopping cart,
that's great, but a lot of people don't and would have to pay someone to do
it for them. There are also credit card processing fees, which come out of
my account once a month, and the setup was around $50. The cost of doing
business on eBay adds up to about the same as the cost of doing business
from a professionally developed website,
but with eBay it's spread out over the course of a year instead of all up
front.

This (the credit card costs) is something I've been mulling over for a
while. Since I'm only selling online at the moment, with the exception of a
very few shows, it's not an issue, but Tucson is coming up soon, so I have
to think about this, again. sigh

In my perfect world, I'd love to be able to just sell on my own website,
handle credit cards myself, and have my CC account ready and able for
in-person shows as well. In the real world, however, Ebay gets more traffic
(60% of my sales this year was from new people), I need much less in the way
of HTML skills, and Paypal handles the credit cards for the auction sales. I
think many people are leery of sharing credit card numbers all over the web,
so Paypal provides a degree of security (rightfully so, IMO). So what I'm
left with is accepting Paypal's terms and fees, plus Ebay's.

I could probably host a website for less then my Ebay fees cost me for a
month (oh hell, I KNOW that's true, I paid over $150 in fees in September!),
and I'm sure that even with paying for good web design, I would probably
still come out ahead. I suspect there are credit card processors who would
be less expensive than Paypal, too. But in both cases, the key ingredient
seems to be "audience participation." Will people find and continually use
my own website in place of auctions, and will they trust me with their
credit card number? And, in terms of shows, how much do I 'lose' in terms of
sales if I only take cash and personal checks (which also have a risk)?

I'd really love some input on this, since I never seem to find satisfactory
answers on my own.

I did use a company called Cell Charge last year for Tucson. They were
"free" at the time, just charged a percentage of each transaction, about
..04% higher than Paypal if I recall. Then they added a monthly fee, and a
flat transaction fee on top of the percentage, and I cancelled, since I
wasn't selling monthly anyway.

Baffled,
KarenK

I still am...

I was just very attracted to the idea of a dedicatedly peaceful,
industrious existence.

I see you as having that Kalera! And I have in fact been wondering lately if it
is your Religion/spirituality/creative expression that accounts for it.


..Stephanie.

Gotta Question?
Google: rec.craft.bead
http://tinyurl.com/5wm36

Kathy N-V wrote:


*sniff* Not me, I'm too new to the group. I guess I will have to
Google,
but I'm stumped for keywords.

Don't bother. It was never a big, exciting blowup. Just a series of
little whiney posts that seemed to go on forever. There wouldn't be
a keyword, because it wasn't one thread, and no one ever commented
with a "grow up" post or anything like that.

So, keywords like whinge won't cut it?

You have a small child. Imagine a weekly whinge because he didn't
get an ice cream, when he thought he deserved ice cream more than
anyone else. Add a little bit of sour grapes because all the other
kids get ice cream, even though they aren't nearly as good as he is.
Throw in a little self-pity and stir, and you'll have it just about
right.

Sounds like me on a bad day!

-Su

--
Tillerman eBay shop: http://stores.ebay.com/thetillermanbeads
Tillerman website: http://www.tillerman.co.uk

Karleen wrote:

My least favorite commercial kept saying "grow your business" or "grow
your
portfolio"... your business can grow, and you can grow (in girth anyway),
but you can't "grow your business".

We keep getting letters about people who will 'action' our requests.

Ick.

-Su

--
Tillerman eBay shop: http://stores.ebay.com/thetillermanbeads
Tillerman website: http://www.tillerman.co.uk

"Karen_AZ" wrote in message news:l61qd.174988$G15.121677@fed1read03...
I'm talking about having a fully functional professional website developed;
if you have the skills to do it yourself and install a shopping cart,
that's great, but a lot of people don't and would have to pay someone to do
it for them. There are also credit card processing fees, which come out of
my account once a month, and the setup was around $50. The cost of doing
business on eBay adds up to about the same as the cost of doing business
from a professionally developed website,
but with eBay it's spread out over the course of a year instead of all up
front.

This (the credit card costs) is something I've been mulling over for a
while. Since I'm only selling online at the moment, with the exception of a
very few shows, it's not an issue, but Tucson is coming up soon, so I have
to think about this, again. sigh

In my perfect world, I'd love to be able to just sell on my own website,
handle credit cards myself, and have my CC account ready and able for
in-person shows as well. In the real world, however, Ebay gets more traffic
(60% of my sales this year was from new people), I need much less in the way
of HTML skills, and Paypal handles the credit cards for the auction sales. I
think many people are leery of sharing credit card numbers all over the web,
so Paypal provides a degree of security (rightfully so, IMO). So what I'm
left with is accepting Paypal's terms and fees, plus Ebay's.

I could probably host a website for less then my Ebay fees cost me for a
month (oh hell, I KNOW that's true, I paid over $150 in fees in September!),
and I'm sure that even with paying for good web design, I would probably
still come out ahead. I suspect there are credit card processors who would
be less expensive than Paypal, too. But in both cases, the key ingredient
seems to be "audience participation." Will people find and continually use
my own website in place of auctions, and will they trust me with their
credit card number? And, in terms of shows, how much do I 'lose' in terms of
sales if I only take cash and personal checks (which also have a risk)?

I'd really love some input on this, since I never seem to find satisfactory
answers on my own.

I did use a company called Cell Charge last year for Tucson. They were
"free" at the time, just charged a percentage of each transaction, about
.04% higher than Paypal if I recall. Then they added a monthly fee, and a
flat transaction fee on top of the percentage, and I cancelled, since I
wasn't selling monthly anyway.

Baffled,
KarenK

Dear Karen,

Thank you for asking this question, as I am hoping to start selling on
line and would love to see the responses. I'm glad to hear you are
doing well enouogh on eBay to continue. Of course high fees mean high
sales.
I've been a buyer on eBay for awhile and definitely feel more
comfortable using PayPal as a buffer for my credit card. Although
I've learned first hand about phishing, having almost been caught by
one supposedly from eBay.
Did you know that you could become a PayPal store, not on eBay, so you
could have your own website and still use PalPay if you wished. (I
don't know all the requirements, though). Maybe that would work for
you. Otherwise it seems you would have to do something to build trust
on your website. How???
I think I saw another payment site somewhere, similar to PayPal. If I
can find it, I'll let you know. Again, I'd love to hear about more of
these myself.
Take care,
Lilyflower

My only additional suggestion is to meet the Sensei, and get a feel for
whether he is the macho type, or a believer in Aikido. Martial artists
traditionally believe in doing the least possible damage. Walking away from
a fight is more honorable than "giving them what they deserve".

People who have trouble with too much anger and inappropriate expression of
anger also benefit from Aikido and other martial arts. Knowing what you're
doing and taking responsibility for your actions is a big part of martial
arts.

Tina


"Kalera Stratton" wrote in message
...
Sam and Juliet will be taking Aikido next year. I'm glad you have a
positive experience to report about it.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


Christina Peterson wrote:
I started taking martial arts with Tai Chi. Later when I took Aikido,
another very soft art, I learned something about pain. I learned I was
morbidly afraid of causing pain. Part of it was the fear of
retaliation,
having been in an abusive relationship. But part of it was about
hurting
not being nice.

Aikido taught me that pain is an important teacher. Pain tells you when
you're doing something wrong, and sometimes that you are doing something
right. Pain was something I could endure, but was not willing/able to
inflict. That probably harmed my children.

Tina