diamond pricing

"Peter W. Rowe" wrote:

Now boys...
=

Keep it civil...
=

More seriously, I wonder if this disagreement may not be based on diffe=
rences in
what is defined as pave' setting, since for my part, I know setters who=
consider
any sort of bead setting of stones into a surface to be pave', =


They are wrong.

and others who
insist that only stones set virtually girdle to girdle, so that in the =
case of
stones all the same size, each has six neighbors, and is held by six be=
ads, and
each bead helps secure three stones. This latter is the classic pave l=
ook,
densly set with each triangular island between the stones shaped into o=
ne bead.

That is pave.

Pve, which is actually spelled "pav=E9" is a French word. It means "pave=
d". A
surface "paved" with diamonds. And in jewelry pav=E9 is exactly what Pe=
ter
described. Girdle to girdle stones, occasionally further apart as when a=
client
wants as much effect with as few diamonds as possible, in which case the =
metal
in between the stones get covered with additional raised beads.

SNIP


that if Abrasha is talking about this style of setting as pave, then I'=
d say
he's correct. =


That's exactly what I was talking about.

I still want to see that pave job with 10 ponters.

Abrasha
http://www.abrasha.com

http://imageevent.com/spot/3mmstones...=0&w=4&s=0&z=2

Perhaps 'invisible set' is the technique here. Whereby stones have
channels cut into the side to be set in , basically, a wire network?

just a wag

Carl
1 Lucky Texan


Roger wrote:
Thank you all for your input.

Yes, I do favor very expensive watches and jewelry. The diamonds
this "wholesaler" showed me were I believe 10 point princess cuts.
maybe larger by a bit. I did take a look at them under a loupe and
they seemed clean. The price was $700 per carat. And he mentioned
$600 per carat for rounds.

And by "Pave" I just meant stones that cover completlt a piece of
jewelry. Not the technical term.

In the past I have bought alot of jewelry at stores in the NYC diamond
district at much higher prices. I was bringing a watch ( YG Rolex
Daytona)
for some work and they directed me to a wholesaler who would make me
any piece of jewelry I wanted. So I had a look. He just had stones
in a bunch of plastic little bags and said he would set them into
anything I wanted. The price seemed to be much better than I am used
to so I asked you guys and gals.

I would not wear synthetic stones so that is not an option for me.

Thanks alot...

(Roger) wrote in message
. ..

People,

I was wondering about the price per carat weight of small diamonds
that jewelers use for pave settings on bracelets, rings, etc... most
of the stones are prob around 10-20 points in size. I have gotten
quotes of $500 per carat to $700 per carat for round and princess cut
stones. So a mans bracelet with 20 carat of 10-20 point rounds would
be in the 10k to 15k range. This is the price jewelers quoted me to
make the bracelet . I am just interested to see if these small
stones are worth that money. I really like the look of the pave
bracelets. Just want an opinion of price.

thanks.

arche



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Oh, so now we have 10 point princess cuts pave set. This gets more interesting
all the time.

Yup, the beacelet was to be princess cuts set in "Invisible(?)"
setting. Right next to each other. Ive seen a few bracelets done
like that and they look great to me.


How much experience do you have looking at diamonds through a loupe? I bet I
could show you the bottom of the barrel quality and make you think you are
looking at "clean" stones.

I do not claim to be a jeweler or a Gem spacialist. Just a consumer.
I have bought single diamonds for $2000 and I have bought single
stones for over $20k. I can at least tell that a diamond looks good
or bad to me. I dont know the technical terms at all. I am just
getting more interested in the actual mechanics and behind the scenes
of the jewelry trade. Same as when I first started collecting Watches
I knew nothing but now I can pretty much know a fair deal when I see
it on most high end watch brands. It is simply a hobby or interest
that I have.

The price was $700 per carat. And he mentioned
$600 per carat for rounds.

I might be getting the crud stones but that is why I am asking you
guys. And he is a "wholesaler" . It is not a retail shop, there is
no store. they dont have stuff they sell on display.

Thanks

Peter, may I ask why some of the posts and replies don't show in this
thread? Do you know what's causing this at all? I've never had this in
any newsgroup I've visited before and it's only started to happen in
this group. Do you know if it's happening to other people too? Or is
it just me? Sorry for the off-topic post, but this has got me puzzled.

Thanks for any insight into this.

-SP-