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Old January 2nd 04, 02:35 AM
MaryR
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On a scarf in a 2 x 2 rib if I want to do a double selvage
stitch to keep the edges flat do I add 2 stitches to the
4-stitch repeat or 4 stitches?

Would this be the pattern or do i also need to add 2 sts at
the end of each row?

CO even number of sts (4 + 2)

Row 1: k2, *k2, p2*
Row 2: p2, *p2, k2*

Thanks,

MaryR


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Old January 2nd 04, 02:46 AM
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One stitch on either side, slipped at the beginning of right-side
rows, will give you a nice tidy edge. Ribbing should, by nature, lie
flat, so the selvedge stitches aren't strictly necessary except from
an aesthetic POV.

On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:35:56 GMT, "MaryR"
wrote:

On a scarf in a 2 x 2 rib if I want to do a double selvage
stitch to keep the edges flat do I add 2 stitches to the
4-stitch repeat or 4 stitches?

Would this be the pattern or do i also need to add 2 sts at
the end of each row?

CO even number of sts (4 + 2)

Row 1: k2, *k2, p2*
Row 2: p2, *p2, k2*

Thanks,

MaryR


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Old January 2nd 04, 04:31 AM
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 02:46:43 GMT, Slinky wrote:

One stitch on either side, slipped at the beginning of right-side
rows, will give you a nice tidy edge. Ribbing should, by nature, lie
flat, so the selvedge stitches aren't strictly necessary except from
an aesthetic POV.

I usually Purl the last stitch, then slip it when I turn... gives both
sides a look of crochet slip stitch all along the edges....
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Noreen

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Old January 2nd 04, 06:02 AM
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Thank you both. I read in the Vogue book that for scarves a
2-stitch selvage is best. How does that change the pattern?
Is it then 2 stitches added to either side, for a total of 2
extra stitches?

MaryR

One stitch on either side, slipped at the beginning of

right-side
rows, will give you a nice tidy edge. Ribbing should,

by nature, lie
flat, so the selvedge stitches aren't strictly necessary

except from
an aesthetic POV.


I usually Purl the last stitch, then slip it when I

turn... gives both
sides a look of crochet slip stitch all along the

edges....


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Old January 2nd 04, 10:33 AM
B Vaughan
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 06:02:23 GMT, "MaryR"
wrote:

Thank you both. I read in the Vogue book that for scarves a
2-stitch selvage is best. How does that change the pattern?
Is it then 2 stitches added to either side, for a total of 2
extra stitches?


Here is a 2-stitch selvedge recommended for scarves that I saw in an
Italian knitting magazine. It says that it's "particularly
decorative". I have to warn that I've never tried it and I'm
translating from Italian:

On each row, slip the first stitch as if to purl and knit the second
stitch. Knit the last two stitches on each row.

To do this selvedge, you would have to add four stitches to your
pattern repeat.


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Old January 2nd 04, 01:53 PM
MaryR
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Barbara:

On each row, slip the first stitch as if to purl and knit

the second
stitch. Knit the last two stitches on each row.


This is a technique I've seen mentioned in other places and
is what I would like to do.

To do this selvedge, you would have to add four stitches

to your
pattern repeat.


This is what I needed to know! So I would cast on in
multiples of 4 (for the 2 x 2 ribbing) plus 4 stitches. My
pattern would then be:

CO even no of sts in multiples of 4 plus 4 extra for selvage

Every Row: Sl1 purlwise, K1, *k2, p2*, to last 2 sts, knit
last 2 sts

Did it specify anything about yarn being in back or front
for the S1?

MaryR


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Old January 2nd 04, 05:01 PM
B Vaughan
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:53:40 GMT, "MaryR"
wrote:

This is what I needed to know! So I would cast on in
multiples of 4 (for the 2 x 2 ribbing) plus 4 stitches. My
pattern would then be:

CO even no of sts in multiples of 4 plus 4 extra for selvage

Every Row: Sl1 purlwise, K1, *k2, p2*, to last 2 sts, knit
last 2 sts


That looks right.

Did it specify anything about yarn being in back or front
for the S1?


No, it didn't. I would imagine it would be held in front, as in
purling. It's been a long time since I've knit anything, maybe more
than 20 years. (I'm crocheting these days.) However, I'm planning to
take up knitting again this year, as soon as I've finished some
crochet projects I have in mind.

Why don't you work a sample to see how it looks? I would be curious to
hear what you think of it.
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Barbara Vaughan

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Old January 2nd 04, 08:39 PM
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This edge sounds just what I would have done,Barbara!
Did I understand you when you asked about the first slipped stitch, Mary?
It should be done purlwise, and then you put the yarn in front. Then you
make a "not so loose" edge.

What you in fact is doing here,
is to knit an edge, which consists of two knit stitches in each side,
but in stead of slip the first stitch knitwise
(that makes chainstitches in the edge, and they are often a bit "loose"),
you slip it pearlwise to get a "steadier" edge.
PUH! this was difficult for a Norwegian knitter to explain in English!!!--
Did it make sense??
AUD ;-))


"B Vaughan" skrev i melding
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:53:40 GMT, "MaryR"
wrote:

This is what I needed to know! So I would cast on in
multiples of 4 (for the 2 x 2 ribbing) plus 4 stitches. My
pattern would then be:

CO even no of sts in multiples of 4 plus 4 extra for selvage

Every Row: Sl1 purlwise, K1, *k2, p2*, to last 2 sts, knit
last 2 sts


That looks right.

Did it specify anything about yarn being in back or front
for the S1?


No, it didn't. I would imagine it would be held in front, as in
purling. It's been a long time since I've knit anything, maybe more
than 20 years. (I'm crocheting these days.) However, I'm planning to
take up knitting again this year, as soon as I've finished some
crochet projects I have in mind.

Why don't you work a sample to see how it looks? I would be curious to
hear what you think of it.
--------
Barbara Vaughan

My email address is my first initial followed by my last name at libero

dot it.


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Old January 2nd 04, 10:11 PM
MaryR
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Thanks so much Barbara and Aud. Yes, Aud, it makes sense.

I will just summarize in my own words to be su

I add two edge stitches to the beginning and end of my
pattern.

Then I slip the first st purlwise with the yarn in back and
knit the second one as usual

I proceed with my pattern stitches, then

At the end of the row I knit the last two stitches.

Is that it?

Mary


"Aud" wrote in message
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This edge sounds just what I would have done,Barbara!
Did I understand you when you asked about the first

slipped stitch, Mary?
It should be done purlwise, and then you put the yarn in

front. Then you
make a "not so loose" edge.

What you in fact is doing here,
is to knit an edge, which consists of two knit stitches in

each side,
but in stead of slip the first stitch knitwise
(that makes chainstitches in the edge, and they are often

a bit "loose"),
you slip it pearlwise to get a "steadier" edge.
PUH! this was difficult for a Norwegian knitter to explain

in English!!!--
Did it make sense??
AUD ;-))


"B Vaughan" skrev i melding
...
On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 13:53:40 GMT, "MaryR"
wrote:

This is what I needed to know! So I would cast on in
multiples of 4 (for the 2 x 2 ribbing) plus 4 stitches.

My
pattern would then be:

CO even no of sts in multiples of 4 plus 4 extra for

selvage

Every Row: Sl1 purlwise, K1, *k2, p2*, to last 2 sts,

knit
last 2 sts


That looks right.

Did it specify anything about yarn being in back or

front
for the S1?


No, it didn't. I would imagine it would be held in

front, as in
purling. It's been a long time since I've knit anything,

maybe more
than 20 years. (I'm crocheting these days.) However, I'm

planning to
take up knitting again this year, as soon as I've

finished some
crochet projects I have in mind.

Why don't you work a sample to see how it looks? I would

be curious to
hear what you think of it.
--------
Barbara Vaughan

My email address is my first initial followed by my last

name at libero
dot it.




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Old January 3rd 04, 08:56 AM
B Vaughan
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On Fri, 02 Jan 2004 22:11:42 GMT, "MaryR"
wrote:

Thanks so much Barbara and Aud. Yes, Aud, it makes sense.

I will just summarize in my own words to be su

I add two edge stitches to the beginning and end of my
pattern.

Then I slip the first st purlwise with the yarn in back and
knit the second one as usual


No, I think that should be with the yarn in front. Right, Aud?

I proceed with my pattern stitches, then

At the end of the row I knit the last two stitches.

Is that it?


The rest is right, but once again, Aud is the expert, since she has
actually used this selvedge and I haven't.

--------
Barbara Vaughan

My email address is my first initial followed by my last name at libero dot it.
 




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