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How to join this particular yarn securely but unobtrusively?
I tried some knitting yesterday, the Oddball Sweater from Threads, which
is straight-around knitting, which I'm making with the lovely heathery merino Classic Elite "Beatrice" I got from Ranee's destashing. It's very interesting looking, as it's three separate yarns...let me see, how can I describe this? Rope-laid, I think, says it best -- the three yarns are like fingering, twisted together to make one thicker yarn. The label says the gauge is 4 sts/inch on size 10-1/2 needles. The problem comes when I try to join a new ball. Knotting it seems to be the only way of doing it securely, but of course the knots show on such a large gauge. The three strands don't like to stay together when the ends are loose, and weaving them in still leaves thicker spots, as does the "Fair-Isle-type" join. Knitting a few stitches with both yarns is utterly impossible as it leaves very thick spots. Does anyone have any ideas? I think it's going to look terrific when it's done, but the balls are only 63 yds each so you can see I have a LOT of joins to contend with. |
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Snip each strand stair-step style, make the new ball mirror-image,
then make a spit-splice. As long as the stuff is 100% non-superwash wool it'll work. Otherwise, just leave 6" ends at the ball changes and work in each individual ply separately when the knitting is done. On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 10:30:28 -0500, spampot wrote: I tried some knitting yesterday, the Oddball Sweater from Threads, which is straight-around knitting, which I'm making with the lovely heathery merino Classic Elite "Beatrice" I got from Ranee's destashing. It's very interesting looking, as it's three separate yarns...let me see, how can I describe this? Rope-laid, I think, says it best -- the three yarns are like fingering, twisted together to make one thicker yarn. The label says the gauge is 4 sts/inch on size 10-1/2 needles. The problem comes when I try to join a new ball. Knotting it seems to be the only way of doing it securely, but of course the knots show on such a large gauge. The three strands don't like to stay together when the ends are loose, and weaving them in still leaves thicker spots, as does the "Fair-Isle-type" join. Knitting a few stitches with both yarns is utterly impossible as it leaves very thick spots. Does anyone have any ideas? I think it's going to look terrific when it's done, but the balls are only 63 yds each so you can see I have a LOT of joins to contend with. |
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I might have known that any real solution would be very work-intensive.
Thanks a million for the suggestions, Wooly. I've never actually done a split-splice, but weaving in separate plies sounds feasible for me. Six-inch lengths, though...my heart quails!! Wooly wrote: Snip each strand stair-step style, make the new ball mirror-image, then make a spit-splice. As long as the stuff is 100% non-superwash wool it'll work. Otherwise, just leave 6" ends at the ball changes and work in each individual ply separately when the knitting is done. On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 10:30:28 -0500, spampot wrote: I tried some knitting yesterday, the Oddball Sweater from Threads, which is straight-around knitting, which I'm making with the lovely heathery merino Classic Elite "Beatrice" I got from Ranee's destashing. It's very interesting looking, as it's three separate yarns...let me see, how can I describe this? Rope-laid, I think, says it best -- the three yarns are like fingering, twisted together to make one thicker yarn. The label says the gauge is 4 sts/inch on size 10-1/2 needles. The problem comes when I try to join a new ball. Knotting it seems to be the only way of doing it securely, but of course the knots show on such a large gauge. The three strands don't like to stay together when the ends are loose, and weaving them in still leaves thicker spots, as does the "Fair-Isle-type" join. Knitting a few stitches with both yarns is utterly impossible as it leaves very thick spots. Does anyone have any ideas? I think it's going to look terrific when it's done, but the balls are only 63 yds each so you can see I have a LOT of joins to contend with. |
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....or did you actually mean "spit" as opposed to "split"?
spampot wrote: I might have known that any real solution would be very work-intensive. Thanks a million for the suggestions, Wooly. I've never actually done a split-splice, but weaving in separate plies sounds feasible for me. Six-inch lengths, though...my heart quails!! Wooly wrote: Snip each strand stair-step style, make the new ball mirror-image, then make a spit-splice. As long as the stuff is 100% non-superwash wool it'll work. Otherwise, just leave 6" ends at the ball changes and work in each individual ply separately when the knitting is done. On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 10:30:28 -0500, spampot wrote: I tried some knitting yesterday, the Oddball Sweater from Threads, which is straight-around knitting, which I'm making with the lovely heathery merino Classic Elite "Beatrice" I got from Ranee's destashing. It's very interesting looking, as it's three separate yarns...let me see, how can I describe this? Rope-laid, I think, says it best -- the three yarns are like fingering, twisted together to make one thicker yarn. The label says the gauge is 4 sts/inch on size 10-1/2 needles. The problem comes when I try to join a new ball. Knotting it seems to be the only way of doing it securely, but of course the knots show on such a large gauge. The three strands don't like to stay together when the ends are loose, and weaving them in still leaves thicker spots, as does the "Fair-Isle-type" join. Knitting a few stitches with both yarns is utterly impossible as it leaves very thick spots. Does anyone have any ideas? I think it's going to look terrific when it's done, but the balls are only 63 yds each so you can see I have a LOT of joins to contend with. |
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How about knitting every other stitch with the new/old ball for a few inches
and then sewing the ends in later (Horror of horrors: sewing ends in, but it might be worth it HTH Love Christine "spampot" wrote in message ... I tried some knitting yesterday, the Oddball Sweater from Threads, which is straight-around knitting, which I'm making with the lovely heathery merino Classic Elite "Beatrice" I got from Ranee's destashing. It's very interesting looking, as it's three separate yarns...let me see, how can I describe this? Rope-laid, I think, says it best -- the three yarns are like fingering, twisted together to make one thicker yarn. The label says the gauge is 4 sts/inch on size 10-1/2 needles. The problem comes when I try to join a new ball. Knotting it seems to be the only way of doing it securely, but of course the knots show on such a large gauge. The three strands don't like to stay together when the ends are loose, and weaving them in still leaves thicker spots, as does the "Fair-Isle-type" join. Knitting a few stitches with both yarns is utterly impossible as it leaves very thick spots. Does anyone have any ideas? I think it's going to look terrific when it's done, but the balls are only 63 yds each so you can see I have a LOT of joins to contend with. |
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There's a good idea, especially if I take Wooly's advice to weave in the
plies individually =:0 thanks, Christine. I"m afraid any solution is going to be pretty labor-intensive! Christine in Kent, Garden of England wrote: How about knitting every other stitch with the new/old ball for a few inches and then sewing the ends in later (Horror of horrors: sewing ends in, but it might be worth it HTH Love Christine "spampot" wrote in message ... I tried some knitting yesterday, the Oddball Sweater from Threads, which is straight-around knitting, which I'm making with the lovely heathery merino Classic Elite "Beatrice" I got from Ranee's destashing. It's very interesting looking, as it's three separate yarns...let me see, how can I describe this? Rope-laid, I think, says it best -- the three yarns are like fingering, twisted together to make one thicker yarn. The label says the gauge is 4 sts/inch on size 10-1/2 needles. The problem comes when I try to join a new ball. Knotting it seems to be the only way of doing it securely, but of course the knots show on such a large gauge. The three strands don't like to stay together when the ends are loose, and weaving them in still leaves thicker spots, as does the "Fair-Isle-type" join. Knitting a few stitches with both yarns is utterly impossible as it leaves very thick spots. Does anyone have any ideas? I think it's going to look terrific when it's done, but the balls are only 63 yds each so you can see I have a LOT of joins to contend with. |
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SPIT splice. Just frizz the ends, overlap, moisten your palm and rub
the ends briskly between your palms to fuse them together. Some folks like to get the wool all squidgy, I just lick my palm and get after it. Much faster/easier than weaving in all those ends! On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 11:48:54 -0500, spampot wrote: ...or did you actually mean "spit" as opposed to "split"? spampot wrote: I might have known that any real solution would be very work-intensive. Thanks a million for the suggestions, Wooly. I've never actually done a split-splice, but weaving in separate plies sounds feasible for me. Six-inch lengths, though...my heart quails!! |
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OH! Now I see. Well...that should work. That many splices, though,
could get icky fast. I'll think about it. Would water work or does it need to be viscous? (Feeling a bit queasy) Wooly wrote: SPIT splice. Just frizz the ends, overlap, moisten your palm and rub the ends briskly between your palms to fuse them together. Some folks like to get the wool all squidgy, I just lick my palm and get after it. Much faster/easier than weaving in all those ends! On Sat, 06 Nov 2004 11:48:54 -0500, spampot wrote: ...or did you actually mean "spit" as opposed to "split"? spampot wrote: I might have known that any real solution would be very work-intensive. Thanks a million for the suggestions, Wooly. I've never actually done a split-splice, but weaving in separate plies sounds feasible for me. Six-inch lengths, though...my heart quails!! |
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Could you do the Russian method? I think that's what it's called. The one
where you thread the yarn on a needle and weave it back on itself leaving a loop, and then threading the other yarn on the needle and through the first loop and then back on itself. I do most of my joins that way now and the yarn is essentially the same thickness. You would be hardpressed to feel the join after you've knitted a couple of rows. -- Star love, Norma PM OES If God brings you to it, He will see you through it. "spampot" wrote in message ... There's a good idea, especially if I take Wooly's advice to weave in the plies individually =:0 thanks, Christine. I"m afraid any solution is going to be pretty labor-intensive! Christine in Kent, Garden of England wrote: How about knitting every other stitch with the new/old ball for a few inches and then sewing the ends in later (Horror of horrors: sewing ends in, but it might be worth it HTH Love Christine "spampot" wrote in message ... I tried some knitting yesterday, the Oddball Sweater from Threads, which is straight-around knitting, which I'm making with the lovely heathery merino Classic Elite "Beatrice" I got from Ranee's destashing. It's very interesting looking, as it's three separate yarns...let me see, how can I describe this? Rope-laid, I think, says it best -- the three yarns are like fingering, twisted together to make one thicker yarn. The label says the gauge is 4 sts/inch on size 10-1/2 needles. The problem comes when I try to join a new ball. Knotting it seems to be the only way of doing it securely, but of course the knots show on such a large gauge. The three strands don't like to stay together when the ends are loose, and weaving them in still leaves thicker spots, as does the "Fair-Isle-type" join. Knitting a few stitches with both yarns is utterly impossible as it leaves very thick spots. Does anyone have any ideas? I think it's going to look terrific when it's done, but the balls are only 63 yds each so you can see I have a LOT of joins to contend with. |
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I thought about that, Norma, but I didn't think I could manage it with
the three components of the yarn so distinct from each other. Maybe I'll give it a try for the next join; it would certainly be the least time-consuming! norma woods wrote: Could you do the Russian method? I think that's what it's called. The one where you thread the yarn on a needle and weave it back on itself leaving a loop, and then threading the other yarn on the needle and through the first loop and then back on itself. I do most of my joins that way now and the yarn is essentially the same thickness. You would be hardpressed to feel the join after you've knitted a couple of rows. |
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