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Protecting My Canvas
Hi there I just purchased a tapestry cushion kit with the semco brand
this is an Australian company The kit comes with of course one color printed canvas I would like to put some tape over the edges of my canvas to stop them fraying is it ? What would you recommend at home here we have masking tape or brown wider packing tape like to seal cartons and things ? reply soon Mystery Girl -- Never find your self arguing with an idiot People watching may not be able to tell the difference. I Wish To Remember My Friends Birthday's Enter Here To Fill In My Accessible Birthday Book http://www.birthdayalarm.com/dob.jsp...75&t=17S11M689 To start a birthday book of your own enter here http://www.birthdayalarm.com |
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"Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" wrote in
message ... Hi there I just purchased a tapestry cushion kit snip I would like to put some tape over the edges of my canvas to stop them fraying is it ? What would you recommend at home here we have masking tape or brown wider packing tape like to seal cartons and things ? Mystery Girl, PLEASE (yes, I know I'm shouting) do not put tape on your canvas. At best, it's a pain to remove and often leaves a residue on the fabric that will not come off. At worst, it can cause the fabric to become discoloured and potentially degrade. I would recommend using either floss or wool (haven't done work on canvas, so your best guess at the appropriate thickness of fibre) and stitching around the canvas to prevent fraying that way. I'm becoming quite fond of Nun stitch, but a simple whip stitch would do the trick. HTH! Mellissa (in bloody cold BC, Canada) -- ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ "Blessed is the season which engages the whole world in a conspiracy of love!" ~ Hamilton Wright Mabie My home on the Web: http://www.zillwood.com/muddles ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ |
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Don`t use the brown packing tape! You`ll have a heck of a job getting it
off! I find that masking tape is find - or you should be able to get a tube of "Fray-check" from your local needlework shop, which is specifically for this purpose. You only need to run a very snall amount along the edge of your canvas. Pat P. "Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" wrote in message ... Hi there I just purchased a tapestry cushion kit with the semco brand this is an Australian company The kit comes with of course one color printed canvas I would like to put some tape over the edges of my canvas to stop them fraying is it ? What would you recommend at home here we have masking tape or brown wider packing tape like to seal cartons and things ? reply soon Mystery Girl -- Never find your self arguing with an idiot People watching may not be able to tell the difference. I Wish To Remember My Friends Birthday's Enter Here To Fill In My Accessible Birthday Book http://www.birthdayalarm.com/dob.jsp...75&t=17S11M689 To start a birthday book of your own enter here http://www.birthdayalarm.com |
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On 12/11/03 6:14 AM,"Pat P" posted:
Don`t use the brown packing tape! You`ll have a heck of a job getting it off! I find that masking tape is find - or you should be able to get a tube of "Fray-check" from your local needlework shop, which is specifically for this purpose. You only need to run a very snall amount along the edge of your canvas. Definitely do not use the brown tape. But masking tape is fine on the edges of canvas. OR some plastic tape. Some people actually use 1" wide carpet tape. It's standard practice to tape the edges of canvas, else it really will catch on things, and can unravel. A lot of LNS have a machine which applies a tape border to the canvas, binding it. Generally the shops do it when a canvas is sold - they get the tape with their name imprinted on it. Anyhow, I use masking tape, or carpet tape. It should only cover about 1/2" of canvas (being folded over the edge to encase it). Never had any problem with blocking, finishing a piece that had been taped. Actually, in many classes that I've taken - the first thing the teacher has everyone doing is taping their canvas before attaching it to the stretcher bars. However - don't tape a fabric ground (linen, evenweave). That will be a yucky mess. Some people tape Aida - it's not as bad as doing it to linen - but not great to remove and does leave residue, pull threads when being removed. None of those problems when pulling the tape off canvas due to the coating on the canvas. Ellice |
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You will be pleased to know I have fixed it and it is looking nice the
design does not go right to the edge any way Oh and can you all please speak English all I know is I purchased a tapestry cushion with wool canvas needles and pattern and it is done using half cross stitch I am right handed with most everything I do and I know which way up the canvas goes How ever I am excellent at stuffing up I know that I work 1 row left to right but if a certain color only has a few places to go how then do I tie it off so I can start the next color For example it says use half cross stitch if I only have 1 or 2 holes for a color how do I make the thread stay in place With time and patience I can work at making sure the front is done all the same way but I would like to have my back tied off nicely to and all the same I knew a girl from when I worked she was so clever at doing things needlepoint and wow counted cross stitch she used to do some amazing designs How ever her backing looked like a dogs breakfast all over some little knots some other things I never said anything but its much nicer when its all neat and even though it wont be seen when the cushion is made it makes one feel good to have it looking so nice The other thing is being the good co worker friend I am I loaned her my cheap booklet with all of the different stitches in it many of them Sadly though since that time I had to leave work for good due to illness there fore I do not see her any more and can not get it back Seeing it was so cheap to buy I didn't care but now I want it to look at the way you do stitches I would know it if I saw it and have browsed the craft store near me with no luck I think it was a semco brand booklet perhaps a web site see if I get to leaving the tapestry for awhile I am likely to forget how to do my stitches so that is why I first bought the book reply soon and thanks Mystery Girl "animaux" wrote in message news I use seam binding and I do a simple straight sew with the machine, or by hand, around the perimeter of the canvas. When I stitch, the most annoying thing is to get chaffed by the rough edges of a canvas! Little things like that annoy me. I've also used tape, but only put the tape really close to the edge so the whole part of the taped canvas can be literally cut off. On Thu, 11 Dec 2003 18:20:53 +1100, "Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" opined: Hi there I just purchased a tapestry cushion kit with the semco brand this is an Australian company The kit comes with of course one color printed canvas I would like to put some tape over the edges of my canvas to stop them fraying is it ? What would you recommend at home here we have masking tape or brown wider packing tape like to seal cartons and things ? reply soon Mystery Girl |
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Others may give you different advice - as there are several methods -
but here goes mine. grin Do you know how to start with a waste knot? That is: a piece of yarn, knot the end, and go from front to back so that the knot is ON TOP of the work. (The right side). Place this knot several centimeters from where you want to begin. You will later snip off the knot, rethread, and weave the threads under existing stitches. So you need it far enough away that you have enough thread to put into a needle and weave. I loved your comment about "liking the back neat because it makes you feel good." That's why I put lace as trim on the hems of special skirts or jackets. That extra little "touch" that is rarely, if ever seen, but makes you feel good. smile Dianne |
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I think I should find a web site I think I know what you are saying start
the first color hole in the first row in the canvas area at the side Leaving the thread long enough so it can be threaded back under the rest and neatly tucked away right ? Its funny the last tapestry I ever did well I still have it but sadly have lost the how to book as I said and can not work out how to complete it so it sits un finished How ever I remember doing a complete cross going left to right half cross on a color then coming back the other way Any way what I need is a web link to explain stitches and things perhaps I will browse on my own now but how do I tie off the back I was hoping it might work like you have the end f the thread long enough and use your needle to feed it back under a few loops in your work and have it secured laying flat under the loops Would this be right thanks for the help wish me luck knowing me I just might be doing the same one in 5 years you know get all enthusiastic do lots get sick of it leave it for a while smile Vikki "Dianne Lewandowski" wrote in message ... Others may give you different advice - as there are several methods - but here goes mine. grin Do you know how to start with a waste knot? That is: a piece of yarn, knot the end, and go from front to back so that the knot is ON TOP of the work. (The right side). Place this knot several centimeters from where you want to begin. You will later snip off the knot, rethread, and weave the threads under existing stitches. So you need it far enough away that you have enough thread to put into a needle and weave. I loved your comment about "liking the back neat because it makes you feel good." That's why I put lace as trim on the hems of special skirts or jackets. That extra little "touch" that is rarely, if ever seen, but makes you feel good. smile Dianne |
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Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl wrote:
I think I should find a web site I think I know what you are saying start the first color hole in the first row in the canvas area at the side Leaving the thread long enough so it can be threaded back under the rest and neatly tucked away right ? Yes. :-) Its funny the last tapestry I ever did well I still have it but sadly have lost the how to book as I said and can not work out how to complete it so it sits un finished How ever I remember doing a complete cross going left to right half cross on a color then coming back the other way Not quite sure what you mean: complete cross going left to right That would mean (to me), complete a cross stitch before going to the next cross stitch in a given row. Not uncommon to stitch that way. But, when you continue with: half cross on a color then coming back That is a method of stitching the continental stitch, by using a half cross across a row, THEN turning the work and working a half cross on the NEXT row. In other words: The piece is made up of half crosses, not full crosses - which is referred to as cross stitch. I am probably misunderstanding in the translation. grin I was hoping it might work like you have the end f the thread long enough and use your needle to feed it back under a few loops in your work and have it secured laying flat under the loops Would this be right thanks for the help wish me luck knowing me I just might be doing the same one in 5 years you know get all enthusiastic do lots get sick of it leave it for a while smile Yes, Vikki. You have it! Good luck to you. There's so many here who can help should you need it. Dianne |
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Hi Miss Vikki - please don't attach pictures to your messages in this
newsgroup. It's not a "binary" newsgroup and isn't set up for pictures. Your picture message was HUGE (5598 bytes as opposed to the more usual 28-30) and can tie up servers worldwide! Glad things are working out for your stitching though. Alison On Sat, 13 Dec 2003 11:54:39 +1100, "Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl" wrote: Hi folks well guess what I started my work I found a way cool web site that shows many stitches http://www.classicstitches.com/know_...Glossary&let=A snip Thinking about it I have a scanner so I am going to try and attach a picture of my tapestry for you to see you know a finished picture comes with the kit |
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On 12/12/03 3:06 PM,"Dianne Lewandowski" posted:
Miss Vikki Australia / Mystery Girl wrote: I think I should find a web site I think I know what you are saying start the first color hole in the first row in the canvas area at the side Leaving the thread long enough so it can be threaded back under the rest and neatly tucked away right ? Yes. :-) There are a couple of basic guidelines you can use - if you're going to be stitching over the tail soon - just go about 2 needlelengths away to start. That is a standard waste knot (knot on top, thread underneath, then come up to start). An "Away" waste know may be put further out to the margin, a few inches - usually when it's going to be a while before that tale gets stitched over, or if you want it to be under a section of a darker color, etc so it doesn't show, or if you're going to actually need to weave it with a needle because the stitching may not be dense enough to hold the tail well. Important - always put the waste know in a vertical, or horizontal line (in a track of the canvas) from where the starting stitch will be. If you put it on a diagonal you can frequently see a zipper kind of effect on the front. How ever I remember doing a complete cross going left to right half cross on a color then coming back the other way Not quite sure what you mean: complete cross going left to right That would mean (to me), complete a cross stitch before going to the next cross stitch in a given row. Not uncommon to stitch that way. But, when you continue with: half cross on a color then coming back That is a method of stitching the continental stitch, by using a half cross across a row, THEN turning the work and working a half cross on the NEXT row. In other words: The piece is made up of half crosses, not full crosses - which is referred to as cross stitch. I am probably misunderstanding in the translation. grin I was hoping it might work like you have the end f the thread long enough and use your needle to feed it back under a few loops in your work and have it secured laying flat under the loops That's what many people do with cross stitch, and sometimes with an "Away waste knot" . But, if you've used a waste knot on canvas, the tail will be captured by your stitching, and you don't have to do any re-weaving. Just when you stitch close to the waste knot (which is on top of the canvas), you then cut the knot off. Adding to Dianne's good advice - I had posted some NP links about a week ago. Here's some info that you could look at, with some good diagrams and information on stitching continental (tent) stitch, and waste knots, etc. ======= Information posted before - sorry if it's repetitious =========== There is a lot of reference information on the ANG website. It's pretty consistent, and there are links to stitch techniques, all kinds of NP info. The main page is http://www.needlepoint.org/ The section with stitches of the month is full of diagrams, and includes links to examples. One book suggests that stitching goes from right to left in a continental stitch and when you reach the end of the row you turn the canvas upside down and stitch again from right to left, continuing the process until the area is filled in. Many people turn the canvas if stitching in rows - that way you're working in the same direction. If you can get your hands on a copy of: Needlepoint Book: A Complete Update of the Classic Guide By Jo Ippolito Christensen This is a great book, and if you're only getting one, it's a good one. Library might have it. Also, for a less investment, TNNA - The National Needlework Asso. Puts out some basic guide books - they're very inexpensive, and many LNS will have them. It's a big workbook sized thing "How To Needlepoint" (they also have crochet, knit instruction books) with excellent diagrams. Will answer all your basic questions. You can see some info at the TNNA site, http://www.tnna.org/ Another needlepoint source suggests you stitch from right to left in the continental stitch and when you reach the end of the row, the next row starts underneath the completed row, but instead of going from bottom to top with the stitch motion, you go from top to bottom across the row, left to right. Absolutely correct. It works out to be the same thing. Does it really matter which technique I use or should I just go with whichever works best for me? Yes - what works for you. For a decorative piece like this one, working in rows is fine. Here are some links to diagrams of tent stitch and basketweave - the first 2 are by Beth Robertson (one of the authors of the Stitches for Effect series). Definitely go look at these. http://www.needlepoint.org/StitchOfTheMonth/98-02.htm http://www.needlepoint.org/StitchOfTheMonth/98-03.htm http://webstitch.designwest.com/stitch06.html#tent1 Is another site with very nice stitch diagrams. However, doing a basketweave form of continental stitch is generally preferred for a couple of reasons. Basketweave is a stronger stitch, so if it's a piece that will get handled - like a pillow, or a footstool, it will hold up better. The other reason, is that basketweaving tends to keep the shape better, less distortion, easier to block. There is an info piece - I think by David McCaskill, on the ANG site about stitching in curved areas - that's a good thing to read. Here's a link to a bunch of stitching FAQs: http://www.needlepoint.org/FAQ/stitching.htm Another question I have is about working the areas with color changes. My needleworking experience lies in counted cross stitching where I like to work my designs by starting in the middle and going where the design and/or the colors I'm working take me until the design is finished. With needlepoint, do I have to work everything in rows with lots of swapping of colors or can I go where the colors take me? You can go where the colors take you. However, you don't really want to carry thread much in NP. And if you're starting with waste or away knots - be sure that they are located so the tail is directly vertically or horizontally in line with the beginning stitch. If it's on a diagonal, the front of the piece will often show a zipper type affect. Also, it's a good practice to end/start new thread in the middle of a row, not at the leading edge. ====== end of the re-post =========== Anyhow, Vicki, check out the web-sites, I think the diagrams will help you. ellice |
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