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Old July 24th 03, 01:19 PM
Dianne Lewandowski
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It might make economic sense in some areas, but it sure messes up
people's lives. I HATE daylight savings time. For people with sleep
disorders (problems), twice a year they battle a worse situation. For
states that are on the edge of a time zone, it throws things way off in
spring and late fall.

It doesn't get dark enough, early enough, to cool the house down prior
to going to bed - requiring extra air conditioning during times when,
otherwise, you might not need it. Particularly in two-story homes.

It makes it difficult for parents to get their little ones down at a
decent hour - circadia rhythm disrupted because of "light".

It makes people think they have more hours to hoop it up.

It's a jolt in the fall when it gets dark so early - and can really
upset the balance for those who suffer seasonal effective disorders.

Statistics in some research point out that more accidents happen during
the transition periods - especially on the highway.

I have to set about 14 clocks/watches twice a year. What a pain.

If you're going to change "time", change it, then leave it alone. This
was a cockamamie idea by Carter for energy savings (it doesn't).
Michigan voters turned it down 3 times and finally, during an obscure
election with extremely low turnout, it passed on the 4th try.

Dianne

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Old July 24th 03, 03:51 PM
Dr. Brat
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Shstringfellow wrote:
The northern areas which
border Chicago and are economically dependent on it follow Chicago time



Not to argue with you or anything (the debate has been going on in the
legislature for YEARS!) but I live in the northern part of IN, and in the
summer, we are with New York and in the winter with Chicago. That doesn't make
any kind of sense to me- economic or otherwise!
SueS


Whooops!

I thought Gary and towns surrounding stayed on Chicago time? My bad.

Elizabeth

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Old July 24th 03, 05:16 PM
Liz Hampton
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It might make economic sense in some areas, but it sure messes up
people's lives. I HATE daylight savings time. For people with sleep
disorders (problems), twice a year they battle a worse situation. For
states that are on the edge of a time zone, it throws things way off in
spring and late fall.

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DH & I agree completely!!! It also makes trouble for those who work
graveyard or swing shift, depending upon the exact schedule. We think it's
just a big pain in the neck. As far as we can tell, the only people who
would really miss it are those who remind us to check our smoke detector
batteries when we change our clocks & that could easily be remedied by
having the media make a big deal about the spring & fall equinoxes &
reminding people at that time to check their batteries.
If you're going to change "time", change it, then leave it alone. This
was a cockamamie idea by Carter for energy savings (it doesn't).
Michigan voters turned it down 3 times and finally, during an obscure
election with extremely low turnout, it passed on the 4th try.

Dianne


I think it was actually Benjamin Franklin who came up with the idea, not
Carter. :-))

Liz from Humbug

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Old July 24th 03, 06:28 PM
Dianne Lewandowski
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Liz Hampton wrote:

I think it was actually Benjamin Franklin who came up with the idea, not
Carter. :-))


I wouldn't argue that, but it was Carter who got the law passed across
the entire country based on energy savings. Part of it was also based
on problems in that, some states did it, others did not, and they were
trying to get EVERYone to do it.

That failed, also. Hawaii, I believe, doesn't move their clocks. As
another poster pointed out, northern Indiana has a devil of a time.

It boils down to golfers a yachters wanting more daylight. big grin

Dianne

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Old July 24th 03, 08:00 PM
Gillian Murray
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I remember back during the war years that Britain not only had "Summertime",
forget the correct phraseology, but it is the same as Daylight Savings Time.
They also had "Double Summertime" for a few weeks. I always have understood
that the rationale was to be able to work more daylight hours farming; I
suspect it also cut down on electric power usage.

Gillian
"Dianne Lewandowski" wrote in message
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Liz Hampton wrote:

I think it was actually Benjamin Franklin who came up with the idea, not
Carter. :-))


I wouldn't argue that, but it was Carter who got the law passed across
the entire country based on energy savings. Part of it was also based
on problems in that, some states did it, others did not, and they were
trying to get EVERYone to do it.

That failed, also. Hawaii, I believe, doesn't move their clocks. As
another poster pointed out, northern Indiana has a devil of a time.

It boils down to golfers a yachters wanting more daylight. big grin

Dianne



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Old July 24th 03, 10:21 PM
Gillian Murray
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I figure the ratinale was that you slept when it was dark, and worked when
it was light. Back in those days A/C wasn't as common as now. All DDH's
family were in Central Illinois, and I can't think of any of them with
Central Air!
Gillian
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Gillian Murray wrote:
I always have understood
that the rationale was to be able to work more daylight hours farming; I
suspect it also cut down on electric power usage.


Actually, the dairy farmers in the States hate it. Well, back then, at
least. It's so commercial, now, it probably doesn't matter.

I do not understand how it cuts down on power usage. That was Pres.
Carter's rationale.

As I said, it makes us use air conditioning (some days) when, if it got
dark earlier, I could cool off the upstairs without it. Air
conditioning is a power vacuum.

Dianne



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Old July 25th 03, 06:52 AM
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
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Sue S
Do i understand right that you live in Northern Indiana ?
if so could you email me ?
mirjam

Shstringfellow wrote:
The northern areas which
border Chicago and are economically dependent on it follow Chicago time



Not to argue with you or anything (the debate has been going on in the
legislature for YEARS!) but I live in the northern part of IN, and in the
summer, we are with New York and in the winter with Chicago. That doesn't make
any kind of sense to me- economic or otherwise!
SueS


Whooops!

I thought Gary and towns surrounding stayed on Chicago time? My bad.

Elizabeth

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The most important thing one woman can do for another is to illuminate
and expand her sense of actual possibilities. --Adrienne Rich
*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*barnacle-encrusted bitch~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*


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Old July 25th 03, 01:38 PM
Dianne Lewandowski
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But States had to vote on these issues. Since none of the rationales
make any sense, why - in the end - did people vote for it?

1. Dairy farmers hated it.
2. It caused more problems for children having to wait for busses in
the dark.
3. It causes sleep disorder problems
4. It causes more accidents (on the road, on the job, in the home)
5. It does not save energy
6. I have to change over 15 clocks twice a year.

Do we, as a general public, not think when our government spews out this
rhetoric? It had to do with businessmen being able to golf and yacht
later. Depending upon where you live in a given time zone, the effect
can have even be worse (viz, those on the edge of a time zone or farther
north).

Dianne

Tara D wrote:
On Thu, 24 Jul 2003 15:00:15 -0400, "Gillian Murray"
wrote:


I always have understood
that the rationale was to be able to work more daylight hours farming; I
suspect it also cut down on electric power usage.



That's the rationale I understood too. Though, most farmers I know
are up with the sun, regardless of what the clock says. The other
reason I heard was to reduce traffic accidents. Not sure *how* that
one works as most commuting time in the summer would fall in daylight
regardless.

Tara


 




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