Category change on eBay?

I read that part of your letter and thought, "Hmmm, is that an
obsrvation or a promise?" LOL! I would be glad to pitch in with
reporting a few miscategorized auctions per day... it only takes a few
minutes, and if nothing else it may help reduce the bog of
miscategorized crap in the handmade lampwork categories.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


Lori Greenberg wrote:
That would be great, Kalera.

As I stated in my email, I thought that complaints to eBay regarding
category violations would increase daily until they did something. Anyone
care to help me make good on that? Even though it's a PITA, I try to send
at least a few a day. There's not only mass produced, imported lampwork,
but also czech glass beads.

I could only find how to report actual auctions though.

Hee hee.

I'm a bit leery of just posting lists of links to be reported so let's just
say I'll ask the question:

Do you think these are handcrafted lampwork auctions?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...3023 016&rd=1

What about this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...3003 504&rd=1

Govern yourself accordingly. ;o)

--
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Lori Greenberg
www.beadnerd.com
ebay:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...origre enberg


"Kalera Stratton" wrote in message
...
I read that part of your letter and thought, "Hmmm, is that an obsrvation
or a promise?" LOL! I would be glad to pitch in with reporting a few
miscategorized auctions per day... it only takes a few minutes, and if
nothing else it may help reduce the bog of miscategorized crap in the
handmade lampwork categories.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


Lori Greenberg wrote:
That would be great, Kalera.

As I stated in my email, I thought that complaints to eBay regarding
category violations would increase daily until they did something.
Anyone care to help me make good on that? Even though it's a PITA, I try
to send at least a few a day. There's not only mass produced, imported
lampwork, but also czech glass beads.

I could only find how to report actual auctions though.

I'm a bit leery of just posting lists of links to be reported so let's just
say I'll ask the question:

Do you think these are handcrafted lampwork auctions?

Good points. I've been guilty of posting "housecleaning" packets of beads in
the US Lampwork category in the past, mostly because I forget to change the
category. Folks know who I am and I figure they'll just get found that way,
but in all honesty it's obviously wrong. I've always stated in descriptions
that it's a variety of Czech, Indian and who knows what else glass, but it's
STILL in the wrong category.

On the second listing, yeah, it's still wrong cuz it sure isn't beads. But
if I were looking for a bead stand I wouldn't know where else to look so I
sort of like the fact that it's there. It's incorrect but it's not the same
as listing 140 lots of mass-produced acrylic (glass LOL) beads. Point taken,
though.

KarenK

Anyone who read my first post to this group knows that as a *buyer* I would
love to see this new category. I have already emailed eBay. Thanks for
this great suggestion, Kalera!!


"Kalera Stratton" wrote in message
...
A few lampworkers have been discussing lately something which concerns most
of us here... the lampwork categories on eBay. We were talking about how
lots and lots of us emailed eBay and they gave us a new category; lampwork
handmade US. Unfortunately, that category is woefully inadequate, as it
really doesn't specify what we *need* it to specify, which is whether it is
artisan lampwork, and whether it's made in the US is irrelevant. Narrowing
it to US lampworkers only hurts non-US lampwork artisans and the customers
who are looking for good-quality artisan work, regardless of counrty of
origin.

The thing this dedicated focus group (HAW) of lampworkers came up with is
the category "Lampwork - handmade - self-representing artists". This was
actually Lori Peterson's brainchild, if I understand correctly! I think
eBay would be amenable to that because they already have a category in
paintings for self-representing artists... which they won by emailing eBay
and asking for it.

It wouldn't keep liars and scammers from posting their mass-produced
lampwork there, but it would at least be a more accurate category for all
self-representing lampwork artisans worldwide, and that would benefit both
sellers and buyers of lampwork. If anyone here thinks this is a good idea
and one that we beaders as a whole could benefit from, please take a
moment to email eBay and ask them to make this change.

Here's the link for making uncsolicited suggestions (they made it a bit
hard to find)

http://pages.ebay.com/help/welcome/suggest.html

This is what I said in my suggestion:

"Hi,

I am a self-representing lampwork artist selling on eBay, and I'd like to
suggest the addition of the category "Lampwork - Handmade -
Self-representing artists".

The current category, "Lampwork - Handmade - US" was a step in the right
direction, but unfortunately it excludes a great many of our international
colleagues and doesn't specifically narrow the offerings to artists
selling their own work. I think that the self-representing category will
make it easier for lampwork customers to find the kind of work they want,
and will exclude those reselling mass-produced, imported (but still
handmade) lampwork, while including exceptional talents worldwide who are
selling their own work.

Thank you for considering this suggestion."
--
-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay

Well golly gee whiz. Even I can tell that ain't thar no homemade beedz.

(And don' let me ketch nona y'all makin' fun a arr suthern accens.)



"Lori Greenberg" wrote in message
ink.net...
Hee hee.

I'm a bit leery of just posting lists of links to be reported so let's
just say I'll ask the question:

Do you think these are handcrafted lampwork auctions?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...3023 016&rd=1

What about this?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...3003 504&rd=1

Govern yourself accordingly. ;o)

--
--------------------------------------
Lori Greenberg
www.beadnerd.com
ebay:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...origre enberg


"Kalera Stratton" wrote in message
...
I read that part of your letter and thought, "Hmmm, is that an obsrvation
or a promise?" LOL! I would be glad to pitch in with reporting a few
miscategorized auctions per day... it only takes a few minutes, and if
nothing else it may help reduce the bog of miscategorized crap in the
handmade lampwork categories.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


Lori Greenberg wrote:
That would be great, Kalera.

As I stated in my email, I thought that complaints to eBay regarding
category violations would increase daily until they did something.
Anyone care to help me make good on that? Even though it's a PITA, I
try to send at least a few a day. There's not only mass produced,
imported lampwork, but also czech glass beads.

I could only find how to report actual auctions though.

Done! I added to and reworded what you wrote so it doesn't sound like I
just copied what you said. I agree - I hope ebay will sit up and listen. I
have written to them several times in the past about the bead categories.
Hopefully if many more of us do this, they will take notice.

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net

A few lampworkers have been discussing lately something which concerns most
of us here... the lampwork categories on eBay. We were talking about how
lots and lots of us emailed eBay and they gave us a new category; lampwork
handmade US. Unfortunately, that category is woefully inadequate, as it
really doesn't specify what we *need* it to specify, which is whether it is
artisan lampwork, and whether it's made in the US is irrelevant. Narrowing
it to US lampworkers only hurts non-US lampwork artisans and the customers
who are looking for good-quality artisan work, regardless of counrty of
origin.

The thing this dedicated focus group (HAW) of lampworkers came up with is
the category "Lampwork - handmade - self-representing artists". This was
actually Lori Peterson's brainchild, if I understand correctly! I think
eBay would be amenable to that because they already have a category in
paintings for self-representing artists... which they won by emailing eBay
and asking for it.

It wouldn't keep liars and scammers from posting their mass-produced
lampwork there, but it would at least be a more accurate category for all
self-representing lampwork artisans worldwide, and that would benefit both
sellers and buyers of lampwork. If anyone here thinks this is a good idea
and one that we beaders as a whole could benefit from, please take a
moment to email eBay and ask them to make this change.

Here's the link for making uncsolicited suggestions (they made it a bit
hard to find)

http://pages.ebay.com/help/welcome/suggest.html

This is what I said in my suggestion:

"Hi,

I am a self-representing lampwork artist selling on eBay, and I'd like to
suggest the addition of the category "Lampwork - Handmade -
Self-representing artists".

The current category, "Lampwork - Handmade - US" was a step in the right
direction, but unfortunately it excludes a great many of our international
colleagues and doesn't specifically narrow the offerings to artists
selling their own work. I think that the self-representing category will
make it easier for lampwork customers to find the kind of work they want,
and will exclude those reselling mass-produced, imported (but still
handmade) lampwork, while including exceptional talents worldwide who are
selling their own work.

Thank you for considering this suggestion."
--
-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay

This is a good idea. I have reported listings for category misuse a few
times, but nothing really worth taking notice of. If a bunch of us do this
(legitimately of course) maybe ebay will notice.

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net

That would be great, Kalera.

As I stated in my email, I thought that complaints to eBay regarding
category violations would increase daily until they did something. Anyone
care to help me make good on that? Even though it's a PITA, I try to send
at least a few a day. There's not only mass produced, imported lampwork,
but also czech glass beads.

I could only find how to report actual auctions though.

--
--------------------------------------
Lori Greenberg
www.beadnerd.com
ebay:
http://cgi6.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dl...origre enberg


"Kalera Stratton" wrote in message
...
Hooray! I am going to PM Lori over on WC and let her know folks are
taking action... maybe she can bring it up on WC again and we can get a
bunch of emails sent. Wouldn't it be lovely?!

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


E J Ralph wrote:
I sent my email!

Emma


On Tue, 12 Oct 2004 09:40:41 -0700, Kalera Stratton
wrote:


A few lampworkers have been discussing lately something which concerns
most of us here... the lampwork categories on eBay. We were talking
about how lots and lots of us emailed eBay and they gave us a new
category; lampwork handmade US. Unfortunately, that category is woefully
inadequate, as it really doesn't specify what we *need* it to specify,
which is whether it is artisan lampwork, and whether it's made in the US
is irrelevant. Narrowing it to US lampworkers only hurts non-US lampwork
artisans and the customers who are looking for good-quality artisan
work, regardless of counrty of origin.

The thing this dedicated focus group (HAW) of lampworkers came up with
is the category "Lampwork - handmade - self-representing artists". This
was actually Lori Peterson's brainchild, if I understand correctly! I
think eBay would be amenable to that because they already have a
category in paintings for self-representing artists... which they won by
emailing eBay and asking for it.

It wouldn't keep liars and scammers from posting their mass-produced
lampwork there, but it would at least be a more accurate category for
all self-representing lampwork artisans worldwide, and that would
benefit both sellers and buyers of lampwork. If anyone here thinks this
is a good idea and one that we beaders as a whole could benefit from,
please take a moment to email eBay and ask them to make this change.

Here's the link for making uncsolicited suggestions (they made it a bit
hard to find)

http://pages.ebay.com/help/welcome/suggest.html

This is what I said in my suggestion:

"Hi,

I am a self-representing lampwork artist selling on eBay, and I'd like
to suggest the addition of the category "Lampwork - Handmade -
Self-representing artists".

The current category, "Lampwork - Handmade - US" was a step in the right
direction, but unfortunately it excludes a great many of our
international colleagues and doesn't specifically narrow the offerings
to artists selling their own work. I think that the self-representing
category will make it easier for lampwork customers to find the kind of
work they want, and will exclude those reselling mass-produced, imported
(but still handmade) lampwork, while including exceptional talents
worldwide who are selling their own work.

Thank you for considering this suggestion."

Lori wrote:

Do you think these are handcrafted lampwork auctions?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...3023 016&rd=1

Nope, not handcrafted lampwork. Thanks for pointing out this particular
auction.

What about this?


http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...3003 504&rd=1

Um, nope. Now, that's handmade but it doesn't have a single hole all the
way through it and I'll be darned if I can figure out a way to wear it.

Govern yourself accordingly. ;o)

That would be the election, eh?

-Su

The ones I am seeing on ebay are Czech pressed glass or firepolished. I
have seen very few Czech lampwork like the ones you are talking about on
ebay, in this category. For some reason many sellers don't know or don't
care about the difference between Czech glass beads which are crystal or
firepolish or pressed, and Czech lampwork beads.
I also see a lot of silver in the lampwork category, as well as tools, large
miscellaneous bead lots and other things that totally don't go there.

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net


]There's not only mass produced, imported lampwork,
]but also czech glass beads.

i understand 'self-representing' artist.
but the Czech glass *handmade* beads i have are very well done.


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