Words and Confusion

There has just been an exchange here at RCTN, and the subject got me
curious, so I got out my dictionary (two of them) and thesaurus as a
back up, and went digging. It was a learning experience for me, which,
after all, is what every conversation should be.

Here's the "words" - and you will see why confusion reigns supreme and
why it can be difficult to articulate what you are exactly trying to
say. It is so striking the differences, that I think if more people
understood them (myself included) we might be able to rethink how the
wheels of society could chug along more smoothly.

Mores: Custom (see moral); folkways that are considered conducive to
the welfare of society and so, through general observance, develop the
force of law, often becoming part of the formal legal code.

Moral: Relating to, dealing with, or capable of making the distinction
between right and wrong in conduct or character.

Ethics: The study of the standards of conduct and moral judgment; moral
philosophy

Custom: A usual practice or habitual way of behaving; habit. Also: A
social convention carried on by tradition and enforced by social
disapproval of any violation.

Etiquette: The forms, manners, and ceremonies established by convention
as acceptable or required in social relations, in profession, or in
official life. The rules for such forms, manners, and ceremonies.
Synonym: See decorum

Decorum: Whatever is suitable or proper. Propriety and good taste in
behavior, speech, dress, etc.
Decorum implies stiffness or formality in rules of conduct or
behavior established as suitable to the circumstances

Decency implies observance of the requirements of modesty, good
taste, etc. (have the decency to thank her)

Propriety suggests conformity with conventional standards of proper
or correct behavior, manners, etc. (His offensive language oversteps
the bounds of propriety)

Dignity, in this connection, implies conduct in keeping with one's
position or one's self-respect; etiquette refers to the forms
established by convention or prescribed by social arbiters for behavior
in polite society.

Polite: Having or showing culture or good taste; polished; cultured;
refined (polite society); Also, having or showing good manners;
especially courteous, considerate, tactful, etc.

Cultu Development, improvement, or refinement of the mind, emotions,
interests, manners, taste, etc. The result of this: refined ways of
thinking, talking, acting, etc.

Refined: Free from crudeness or coarseness, cultivated; elegant. Also,
characterized by great subtlety, precision, etc.

Refinement: Delicacy or elegance of language, speech, manners, etc;
polish, cultivation. Also, development, improvement, elaboration.

Don't shoot me. I'm just the messenger. g
Dianne

Good research, but soooooooooooo what?? It really says nothng new.
gillian
"Dianne Lewandowski" wrote in message
...
There has just been an exchange here at RCTN, and the subject got me
curious, so I got out my dictionary (two of them) and thesaurus as a
back up, and went digging. It was a learning experience for me, which,
after all, is what every conversation should be.

Here's the "words" - and you will see why confusion reigns supreme and
why it can be difficult to articulate what you are exactly trying to
say. It is so striking the differences, that I think if more people
understood them (myself included) we might be able to rethink how the
wheels of society could chug along more smoothly.

Mores: Custom (see moral); folkways that are considered conducive to
the welfare of society and so, through general observance, develop the
force of law, often becoming part of the formal legal code.

Moral: Relating to, dealing with, or capable of making the distinction
between right and wrong in conduct or character.

Ethics: The study of the standards of conduct and moral judgment; moral
philosophy

Custom: A usual practice or habitual way of behaving; habit. Also: A
social convention carried on by tradition and enforced by social
disapproval of any violation.

Etiquette: The forms, manners, and ceremonies established by convention
as acceptable or required in social relations, in profession, or in
official life. The rules for such forms, manners, and ceremonies.
Synonym: See decorum

Decorum: Whatever is suitable or proper. Propriety and good taste in
behavior, speech, dress, etc.
Decorum implies stiffness or formality in rules of conduct or
behavior established as suitable to the circumstances

Decency implies observance of the requirements of modesty, good
taste, etc. (have the decency to thank her)

Propriety suggests conformity with conventional standards of proper
or correct behavior, manners, etc. (His offensive language oversteps
the bounds of propriety)

Dignity, in this connection, implies conduct in keeping with one's
position or one's self-respect; etiquette refers to the forms
established by convention or prescribed by social arbiters for behavior
in polite society.

Polite: Having or showing culture or good taste; polished; cultured;
refined (polite society); Also, having or showing good manners;
especially courteous, considerate, tactful, etc.

Cultu Development, improvement, or refinement of the mind, emotions,
interests, manners, taste, etc. The result of this: refined ways of
thinking, talking, acting, etc.

Refined: Free from crudeness or coarseness, cultivated; elegant. Also,
characterized by great subtlety, precision, etc.

Refinement: Delicacy or elegance of language, speech, manners, etc;
polish, cultivation. Also, development, improvement, elaboration.

Don't shoot me. I'm just the messenger. g
Dianne

Because I often hear people say, "I don't want any morals, ethics, and
that stuff taught to my children in school . . that's a parent's job".
Or, they are confused by the word "culture" and think it only means
classical music, or the word "etiquette" and think it only means holding
a teacup a certain way.

Finally, Gillian, you must have missed the conversation, because then
you would have known why I posted what I did. What a great example you
have made: the tone of your post is rude, lacking in common decency, and
is certainly undignified.
Dianne

Gillian Murray wrote:
Good research, but soooooooooooo what?? It really says nothng new.
gillian
"Dianne Lewandowski" wrote in message
...

There has just been an exchange here at RCTN, and the subject got me
curious, so I got out my dictionary (two of them) and thesaurus as a
back up, and went digging. It was a learning experience for me, which,
after all, is what every conversation should be.

Here's the "words" - and you will see why confusion reigns supreme and
why it can be difficult to articulate what you are exactly trying to
say. It is so striking the differences, that I think if more people
understood them (myself included) we might be able to rethink how the
wheels of society could chug along more smoothly.

Mores: Custom (see moral); folkways that are considered conducive to
the welfare of society and so, through general observance, develop the
force of law, often becoming part of the formal legal code.

Moral: Relating to, dealing with, or capable of making the distinction
between right and wrong in conduct or character.

Ethics: The study of the standards of conduct and moral judgment; moral
philosophy

Custom: A usual practice or habitual way of behaving; habit. Also: A
social convention carried on by tradition and enforced by social
disapproval of any violation.

Etiquette: The forms, manners, and ceremonies established by convention
as acceptable or required in social relations, in profession, or in
official life. The rules for such forms, manners, and ceremonies.
Synonym: See decorum

Decorum: Whatever is suitable or proper. Propriety and good taste in
behavior, speech, dress, etc.
Decorum implies stiffness or formality in rules of conduct or
behavior established as suitable to the circumstances

Decency implies observance of the requirements of modesty, good
taste, etc. (have the decency to thank her)

Propriety suggests conformity with conventional standards of proper
or correct behavior, manners, etc. (His offensive language oversteps
the bounds of propriety)

Dignity, in this connection, implies conduct in keeping with one's
position or one's self-respect; etiquette refers to the forms
established by convention or prescribed by social arbiters for behavior
in polite society.

Polite: Having or showing culture or good taste; polished; cultured;
refined (polite society); Also, having or showing good manners;
especially courteous, considerate, tactful, etc.

Cultu Development, improvement, or refinement of the mind, emotions,
interests, manners, taste, etc. The result of this: refined ways of
thinking, talking, acting, etc.

Refined: Free from crudeness or coarseness, cultivated; elegant. Also,
characterized by great subtlety, precision, etc.

Refinement: Delicacy or elegance of language, speech, manners, etc;
polish, cultivation. Also, development, improvement, elaboration.

Don't shoot me. I'm just the messenger. g
Dianne

Dianne,

Maybe it was rude and indignified, for which I apologise to all. However it
seems to me that the entire subject has been talked right into the ground.
Yes, Dianne, I read a whole lot of it, and it sometimes seems to me that
discussion can go on a tad too long. I didn't keep track of the number of
posts in the thread, but so much of it was reiterated, hence my irritated
comment. Yes, I knew the meaning of all those words, and hear them
frequently misused; like mis-spellings, I TRY not to comment and ignore the
errors.

Now, I must run, it is the morning for the beauty shop, and have my head
rebuilt.vbg Inside and out??

Gillian


"Dianne Lewandowski" wrote in message
...
Because I often hear people say, "I don't want any morals, ethics, and
that stuff taught to my children in school . . that's a parent's job".
Or, they are confused by the word "culture" and think it only means
classical music, or the word "etiquette" and think it only means holding
a teacup a certain way.

Finally, Gillian, you must have missed the conversation, because then
you would have known why I posted what I did. What a great example you
have made: the tone of your post is rude, lacking in common decency, and
is certainly undignified.
Dianne

Gillian Murray wrote:
Good research, but soooooooooooo what?? It really says nothng new.
gillian
"Dianne Lewandowski" wrote in message
...

There has just been an exchange here at RCTN, and the subject got me
curious, so I got out my dictionary (two of them) and thesaurus as a
back up, and went digging. It was a learning experience for me, which,
after all, is what every conversation should be.

Here's the "words" - and you will see why confusion reigns supreme and
why it can be difficult to articulate what you are exactly trying to
say. It is so striking the differences, that I think if more people
understood them (myself included) we might be able to rethink how the
wheels of society could chug along more smoothly.

Mores: Custom (see moral); folkways that are considered conducive to
the welfare of society and so, through general observance, develop the
force of law, often becoming part of the formal legal code.

Moral: Relating to, dealing with, or capable of making the distinction
between right and wrong in conduct or character.

Ethics: The study of the standards of conduct and moral judgment; moral
philosophy

Custom: A usual practice or habitual way of behaving; habit. Also: A
social convention carried on by tradition and enforced by social
disapproval of any violation.

Etiquette: The forms, manners, and ceremonies established by convention
as acceptable or required in social relations, in profession, or in
official life. The rules for such forms, manners, and ceremonies.
Synonym: See decorum

Decorum: Whatever is suitable or proper. Propriety and good taste in
behavior, speech, dress, etc.
Decorum implies stiffness or formality in rules of conduct or
behavior established as suitable to the circumstances

Decency implies observance of the requirements of modesty, good
taste, etc. (have the decency to thank her)

Propriety suggests conformity with conventional standards of proper
or correct behavior, manners, etc. (His offensive language oversteps
the bounds of propriety)

Dignity, in this connection, implies conduct in keeping with one's
position or one's self-respect; etiquette refers to the forms
established by convention or prescribed by social arbiters for behavior
in polite society.

Polite: Having or showing culture or good taste; polished; cultured;
refined (polite society); Also, having or showing good manners;
especially courteous, considerate, tactful, etc.

Cultu Development, improvement, or refinement of the mind, emotions,
interests, manners, taste, etc. The result of this: refined ways of
thinking, talking, acting, etc.

Refined: Free from crudeness or coarseness, cultivated; elegant. Also,
characterized by great subtlety, precision, etc.

Refinement: Delicacy or elegance of language, speech, manners, etc;
polish, cultivation. Also, development, improvement, elaboration.

Don't shoot me. I'm just the messenger. g
Dianne

Apology: 1. An expression of regret for wrongdoing; 2. An excuse or
defense

Dianne


Gillian Murray wrote:
Dianne,

Maybe it was rude and indignified, for which I apologise to all. However it
seems to me that the entire subject has been talked right into the ground.
Yes, Dianne, I read a whole lot of it, and it sometimes seems to me that
discussion can go on a tad too long. I didn't keep track of the number of
posts in the thread, but so much of it was reiterated, hence my irritated
comment. Yes, I knew the meaning of all those words, and hear them
frequently misused; like mis-spellings, I TRY not to comment and ignore the
errors.

Now, I must run, it is the morning for the beauty shop, and have my head
rebuilt.vbg Inside and out??

Gillian


"Dianne Lewandowski" wrote in message
...

Because I often hear people say, "I don't want any morals, ethics, and
that stuff taught to my children in school . . that's a parent's job".
Or, they are confused by the word "culture" and think it only means
classical music, or the word "etiquette" and think it only means holding
a teacup a certain way.

Finally, Gillian, you must have missed the conversation, because then
you would have known why I posted what I did. What a great example you
have made: the tone of your post is rude, lacking in common decency, and
is certainly undignified.
Dianne

Gillian Murray wrote:

Good research, but soooooooooooo what?? It really says nothng new.
gillian
"Dianne Lewandowski" wrote in message
...


There has just been an exchange here at RCTN, and the subject got me
curious, so I got out my dictionary (two of them) and thesaurus as a
back up, and went digging. It was a learning experience for me, which,
after all, is what every conversation should be.

Here's the "words" - and you will see why confusion reigns supreme and
why it can be difficult to articulate what you are exactly trying to
say. It is so striking the differences, that I think if more people
understood them (myself included) we might be able to rethink how the
wheels of society could chug along more smoothly.

Mores: Custom (see moral); folkways that are considered conducive to
the welfare of society and so, through general observance, develop the
force of law, often becoming part of the formal legal code.

Moral: Relating to, dealing with, or capable of making the distinction
between right and wrong in conduct or character.

Ethics: The study of the standards of conduct and moral judgment; moral
philosophy

Custom: A usual practice or habitual way of behaving; habit. Also: A
social convention carried on by tradition and enforced by social
disapproval of any violation.

Etiquette: The forms, manners, and ceremonies established by convention
as acceptable or required in social relations, in profession, or in
official life. The rules for such forms, manners, and ceremonies.
Synonym: See decorum

Decorum: Whatever is suitable or proper. Propriety and good taste in
behavior, speech, dress, etc.
Decorum implies stiffness or formality in rules of conduct or
behavior established as suitable to the circumstances

Decency implies observance of the requirements of modesty, good
taste, etc. (have the decency to thank her)

Propriety suggests conformity with conventional standards of proper
or correct behavior, manners, etc. (His offensive language oversteps
the bounds of propriety)

Dignity, in this connection, implies conduct in keeping with one's
position or one's self-respect; etiquette refers to the forms
established by convention or prescribed by social arbiters for behavior
in polite society.

Polite: Having or showing culture or good taste; polished; cultured;
refined (polite society); Also, having or showing good manners;
especially courteous, considerate, tactful, etc.

Cultu Development, improvement, or refinement of the mind, emotions,
interests, manners, taste, etc. The result of this: refined ways of
thinking, talking, acting, etc.

Refined: Free from crudeness or coarseness, cultivated; elegant. Also,
characterized by great subtlety, precision, etc.

Refinement: Delicacy or elegance of language, speech, manners, etc;
polish, cultivation. Also, development, improvement, elaboration.

Don't shoot me. I'm just the messenger. g
Dianne

On Tue, 20 Jan 2004 08:28:22 -0600, Dianne Lewandowski
wrote:

Finally, Gillian, you must have missed the conversation, because then
you would have known why I posted what I did.
Well, Dianne, I didn't miss the conversation, and I, too, wondered
what part of left field your post came from.
Darla
Sacred cows make great hamburgers.

So, I'm not the only one wondering "What in the world does that have to do
with needlework?"

Fixing header.


"Gillian Murray" wrote in message
ink.net...
Good research, but soooooooooooo what?? It really says nothng new.
gillian
"Dianne Lewandowski" wrote in message
...
There has just been an exchange here at RCTN, and the subject got me
curious, so I got out my dictionary (two of them) and thesaurus as a
back up, and went digging. It was a learning experience for me, which,
after all, is what every conversation should be.

Here's the "words" - and you will see why confusion reigns supreme and
why it can be difficult to articulate what you are exactly trying to
say. It is so striking the differences, that I think if more people
understood them (myself included) we might be able to rethink how the
wheels of society could chug along more smoothly.

Mores: Custom (see moral); folkways that are considered conducive to
the welfare of society and so, through general observance, develop the
force of law, often becoming part of the formal legal code.

Moral: Relating to, dealing with, or capable of making the distinction
between right and wrong in conduct or character.

Ethics: The study of the standards of conduct and moral judgment; moral
philosophy

Custom: A usual practice or habitual way of behaving; habit. Also: A
social convention carried on by tradition and enforced by social
disapproval of any violation.

Etiquette: The forms, manners, and ceremonies established by convention
as acceptable or required in social relations, in profession, or in
official life. The rules for such forms, manners, and ceremonies.
Synonym: See decorum

Decorum: Whatever is suitable or proper. Propriety and good taste in
behavior, speech, dress, etc.
Decorum implies stiffness or formality in rules of conduct or
behavior established as suitable to the circumstances

Decency implies observance of the requirements of modesty, good
taste, etc. (have the decency to thank her)

Propriety suggests conformity with conventional standards of proper
or correct behavior, manners, etc. (His offensive language oversteps
the bounds of propriety)

Dignity, in this connection, implies conduct in keeping with one's
position or one's self-respect; etiquette refers to the forms
established by convention or prescribed by social arbiters for behavior
in polite society.

Polite: Having or showing culture or good taste; polished; cultured;
refined (polite society); Also, having or showing good manners;
especially courteous, considerate, tactful, etc.

Cultu Development, improvement, or refinement of the mind, emotions,
interests, manners, taste, etc. The result of this: refined ways of
thinking, talking, acting, etc.

Refined: Free from crudeness or coarseness, cultivated; elegant. Also,
characterized by great subtlety, precision, etc.

Refinement: Delicacy or elegance of language, speech, manners, etc;
polish, cultivation. Also, development, improvement, elaboration.

Don't shoot me. I'm just the messenger. g
Dianne

Finally, Gillian, you must have missed the conversation, because then
you would have known why I posted what I did.
Well, Dianne, I didn't miss the conversation, and I, too, wondered
what part of left field your post came from.

I understood where it came from, but being a grown woman, who's parents raised
her well, I resented the lecture.

I quit reading it by about the 4th definition, only scrolled down to see just
how long it went on.......which was entirely too far. The point was lost by
that point.

Caryn
Blue Wizard Designs
http://hometown.aol.com/crzy4xst/index.html
Updated: 7/7/03 -- now available Dragon of the Stars
View WIPs at: http://community.webshots.com/user/carynlws (Caryn's UFO's)

And so you were free to move on. Obviously you don't understand the
words, because in polite society, that's what you would do: move on and
keep your mouth shut.

It was a rant. We're all entitled. I'm getting weary of some of the
misconceptions of these words, because it is affecting the U.S. society
I'm currently residing. Look up the word lecture. It's not negative.
Like in a classroom: you can listen and learn, or you can shut your
ears and daydream, or you can skip class.

Are there policemen here that tell us what we can - and cannot post or
talk about? Hmmmmm: holocaust; word de jour; rental cars; grandmothers
.. . . .
Dianne

Caryn wrote:

Finally, Gillian, you must have missed the conversation, because then
you would have known why I posted what I did.

Well, Dianne, I didn't miss the conversation, and I, too, wondered
what part of left field your post came from.


I understood where it came from, but being a grown woman, who's parents raised
her well, I resented the lecture.

I quit reading it by about the 4th definition, only scrolled down to see just
how long it went on.......which was entirely too far. The point was lost by
that point.

"And so you were free to move on. Obviously you don't understand the
words, because in polite society, that's what you would do: move on and
keep your mouth shut."

Rant: noun: A speech or piece of writing that incites anger or violence

Be careful what you ask for....

Paula H