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Old April 8th 04, 01:15 AM
Sandi
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Default Face Mask From Clay

I would like to make a mask of my husband's face, but I do not want to
use plaster. Is there a clay product that will allow me to make a
sturdy impression of his face?

Thanks!




Sandi
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Old April 9th 04, 05:21 AM
Richard B. Johnson
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Go to google and look up the term "alginate", or go to your dentist and ask
where he gets it. (It is the stuff dentists use to make dental impressions).
Compared to plaster it is a little pricey, but it works beautifully.
Richard B. Johnson
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I would like to make a mask of my husband's face, but I do not want to
use plaster. Is there a clay product that will allow me to make a
sturdy impression of his face?

Thanks!




Sandi



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Old April 10th 04, 01:12 AM
Varda Levram-Ellisman
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Hi Sandi
I used the medical casting plaster. It dries very fast and if you put
some face cream before applying the cast it does not leave any
residues on the skin. You cut the bandage-like role into rectangles
(~2"wide) and follow the instructions (wet in warm water and apply one
piece at a time). It is fun and an interesting trusting experience.
Varda



(Sandi) wrote in message . com...
I would like to make a mask of my husband's face, but I do not want to
use plaster. Is there a clay product that will allow me to make a
sturdy impression of his face?

Thanks!




Sandi

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Old April 14th 04, 06:27 PM
Katherine Dewey
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Once you've made a mold with this plaster, add more plaster for strength. Coat the inside with shellac
and then, after 24 hours, treat with mold release -- Vaseline thinned with naptha and fill with liquid
plaster (hydrocal or potters plaster) to make a positive form for building a mask of polymer clay.

Katherine Dewey
http://www.elvenwork.com

Varda Levram-Ellisman wrote:

Hi Sandi
I used the medical casting plaster. It dries very fast and if you put
some face cream before applying the cast it does not leave any
residues on the skin. You cut the bandage-like role into rectangles
(~2"wide) and follow the instructions (wet in warm water and apply one
piece at a time). It is fun and an interesting trusting experience.
Varda

(Sandi) wrote in message . com...
I would like to make a mask of my husband's face, but I do not want to
use plaster. Is there a clay product that will allow me to make a
sturdy impression of his face?

Thanks!




Sandi


  #5  
Old April 14th 04, 07:18 PM
Katherine Dewey
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An added note:
There are deep undercuts around the nose, mouth and brows. If you use your original face mold to make
plaster positive, you'll end up destroying the original face mold to remove it. The process is called
Waste Mold, because the mold is destroyed. You can use the plaster positive to create a flexible latex or
silicone mold.

Katherine Dewey wrote:

Once you've made a mold with this plaster, add more plaster for strength. Coat the inside with shellac
and then, after 24 hours, treat with mold release -- Vaseline thinned with naptha and fill with liquid
plaster (hydrocal or potters plaster) to make a positive form for building a mask of polymer clay.

Katherine Dewey
http://www.elvenwork.com

Varda Levram-Ellisman wrote:

Hi Sandi
I used the medical casting plaster. It dries very fast and if you put
some face cream before applying the cast it does not leave any
residues on the skin. You cut the bandage-like role into rectangles
(~2"wide) and follow the instructions (wet in warm water and apply one
piece at a time). It is fun and an interesting trusting experience.
Varda

(Sandi) wrote in message . com...
I would like to make a mask of my husband's face, but I do not want to
use plaster. Is there a clay product that will allow me to make a
sturdy impression of his face?

Thanks!




Sandi


  #6  
Old April 15th 04, 08:50 PM
Varda Levram-Ellisman
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This is very interesting Kathrine, I only reinforced the negative from
the outside and then made the positive from polymer clay, baked it
removed the clay from the plaster. However, then there was a lot of
work to sand the positive down to make it smooth due to the texture of
the plaster fabric. What kind of shellac do you use (or is there only
one kind)?
Varda



Katherine Dewey wrote in message ...
An added note:
There are deep undercuts around the nose, mouth and brows. If you use your original face mold to make
plaster positive, you'll end up destroying the original face mold to remove it. The process is called
Waste Mold, because the mold is destroyed. You can use the plaster positive to create a flexible latex or
silicone mold.

Katherine Dewey wrote:

Once you've made a mold with this plaster, add more plaster for strength. Coat the inside with shellac
and then, after 24 hours, treat with mold release -- Vaseline thinned with naptha and fill with liquid
plaster (hydrocal or potters plaster) to make a positive form for building a mask of polymer clay.

Katherine Dewey
http://www.elvenwork.com

Varda Levram-Ellisman wrote:

Hi Sandi
I used the medical casting plaster. It dries very fast and if you put
some face cream before applying the cast it does not leave any
residues on the skin. You cut the bandage-like role into rectangles
(~2"wide) and follow the instructions (wet in warm water and apply one
piece at a time). It is fun and an interesting trusting experience.
Varda

(Sandi) wrote in message . com...
I would like to make a mask of my husband's face, but I do not want to
use plaster. Is there a clay product that will allow me to make a
sturdy impression of his face?

Thanks!




Sandi

  #7  
Old April 16th 04, 03:57 PM
Katherine Dewey
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Just shellac, not varnish, but true shellac. Far easier is to use alginate. FX supply houses carry it in bulk
and it's cheaper than dental alginate. It sets up quickly, doesn't heat up the way plaster does and is more
comfortable during the mold process.
For my masks, I use a sculpted face made of polymer clay as my positive and mold a felt armature over that.
I'd like to create a silicone positive and use polymer/epoxy laminates for masks in the future when I have the
time.

Katherine Dewey
http://www.elvenwork.com


Varda Levram-Ellisman wrote:

This is very interesting Kathrine, I only reinforced the negative from
the outside and then made the positive from polymer clay, baked it
removed the clay from the plaster. However, then there was a lot of
work to sand the positive down to make it smooth due to the texture of
the plaster fabric. What kind of shellac do you use (or is there only
one kind)?
Varda

Katherine Dewey wrote in message ...
An added note:
There are deep undercuts around the nose, mouth and brows. If you use your original face mold to make
plaster positive, you'll end up destroying the original face mold to remove it. The process is called
Waste Mold, because the mold is destroyed. You can use the plaster positive to create a flexible latex or
silicone mold.

Katherine Dewey wrote:

Once you've made a mold with this plaster, add more plaster for strength. Coat the inside with shellac
and then, after 24 hours, treat with mold release -- Vaseline thinned with naptha and fill with liquid
plaster (hydrocal or potters plaster) to make a positive form for building a mask of polymer clay.

Katherine Dewey
http://www.elvenwork.com

Varda Levram-Ellisman wrote:

Hi Sandi
I used the medical casting plaster. It dries very fast and if you put
some face cream before applying the cast it does not leave any
residues on the skin. You cut the bandage-like role into rectangles
(~2"wide) and follow the instructions (wet in warm water and apply one
piece at a time). It is fun and an interesting trusting experience.
Varda

(Sandi) wrote in message . com...
I would like to make a mask of my husband's face, but I do not want to
use plaster. Is there a clay product that will allow me to make a
sturdy impression of his face?

Thanks!




Sandi


  #8  
Old April 16th 04, 07:04 PM
dawn
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Katherine, I was curious as to what exactly is used for a felt mold. I'm
assuming felt but I was wondering what type and what the process is.
Sounds interesting.
Dawn Stubitsch
(Home Page) http://www.thumbprintkids.com
(Questions?) http://www.thumbprintkids.com/pages/questions.htm
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"Katherine Dewey" wrote in message
...
Just shellac, not varnish, but true shellac. Far easier is to use

alginate. FX supply houses carry it in bulk
and it's cheaper than dental alginate. It sets up quickly, doesn't heat

up the way plaster does and is more
comfortable during the mold process.
For my masks, I use a sculpted face made of polymer clay as my positive

and mold a felt armature over that.
I'd like to create a silicone positive and use polymer/epoxy laminates for

masks in the future when I have the
time.

Katherine Dewey
http://www.elvenwork.com


Varda Levram-Ellisman wrote:

This is very interesting Kathrine, I only reinforced the negative from
the outside and then made the positive from polymer clay, baked it
removed the clay from the plaster. However, then there was a lot of
work to sand the positive down to make it smooth due to the texture of
the plaster fabric. What kind of shellac do you use (or is there only
one kind)?
Varda

Katherine Dewey wrote in message

...
An added note:
There are deep undercuts around the nose, mouth and brows. If you use

your original face mold to make
plaster positive, you'll end up destroying the original face mold to

remove it. The process is called
Waste Mold, because the mold is destroyed. You can use the plaster

positive to create a flexible latex or
silicone mold.

Katherine Dewey wrote:

Once you've made a mold with this plaster, add more plaster for

strength. Coat the inside with shellac
and then, after 24 hours, treat with mold release -- Vaseline

thinned with naptha and fill with liquid
plaster (hydrocal or potters plaster) to make a positive form for

building a mask of polymer clay.

Katherine Dewey
http://www.elvenwork.com

Varda Levram-Ellisman wrote:

Hi Sandi
I used the medical casting plaster. It dries very fast and if you

put
some face cream before applying the cast it does not leave any
residues on the skin. You cut the bandage-like role into

rectangles
(~2"wide) and follow the instructions (wet in warm water and apply

one
piece at a time). It is fun and an interesting trusting

experience.
Varda

(Sandi) wrote in message

. com...
I would like to make a mask of my husband's face, but I do not

want to
use plaster. Is there a clay product that will allow me to make

a
sturdy impression of his face?

Thanks!




Sandi




  #9  
Old April 17th 04, 12:57 AM
Katherine Dewey
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I made a negative of the polymer clay face out of silicone putty. It's not
exactly a mold, but a partial mold of the area around and including the eyes,
nose and mouth. This and a large rubber band hold the felt in place. The felt
takes a day or more to dry. In the oven, it takes less time.

Katherine

dawn wrote:

Katherine, I was curious as to what exactly is used for a felt mold. I'm
assuming felt but I was wondering what type and what the process is.
Sounds interesting.
Dawn Stubitsch
(Home Page) http://www.thumbprintkids.com
(Questions?) http://www.thumbprintkids.com/pages/questions.htm
(Prices & Forms) http://www.thumbprintkids.com/pages/caketoppers.html
(Photo Guidelines) http://www.thumbprintkids.com/pages/...0guidlines.htm
"Katherine Dewey" wrote in message
...
Just shellac, not varnish, but true shellac. Far easier is to use

alginate. FX supply houses carry it in bulk
and it's cheaper than dental alginate. It sets up quickly, doesn't heat

up the way plaster does and is more
comfortable during the mold process.
For my masks, I use a sculpted face made of polymer clay as my positive

and mold a felt armature over that.
I'd like to create a silicone positive and use polymer/epoxy laminates for

masks in the future when I have the
time.

Katherine Dewey
http://www.elvenwork.com


Varda Levram-Ellisman wrote:

This is very interesting Kathrine, I only reinforced the negative from
the outside and then made the positive from polymer clay, baked it
removed the clay from the plaster. However, then there was a lot of
work to sand the positive down to make it smooth due to the texture of
the plaster fabric. What kind of shellac do you use (or is there only
one kind)?
Varda

Katherine Dewey wrote in message

...
An added note:
There are deep undercuts around the nose, mouth and brows. If you use

your original face mold to make
plaster positive, you'll end up destroying the original face mold to

remove it. The process is called
Waste Mold, because the mold is destroyed. You can use the plaster

positive to create a flexible latex or
silicone mold.

Katherine Dewey wrote:

Once you've made a mold with this plaster, add more plaster for

strength. Coat the inside with shellac
and then, after 24 hours, treat with mold release -- Vaseline

thinned with naptha and fill with liquid
plaster (hydrocal or potters plaster) to make a positive form for

building a mask of polymer clay.

Katherine Dewey
http://www.elvenwork.com

Varda Levram-Ellisman wrote:

Hi Sandi
I used the medical casting plaster. It dries very fast and if you

put
some face cream before applying the cast it does not leave any
residues on the skin. You cut the bandage-like role into

rectangles
(~2"wide) and follow the instructions (wet in warm water and apply

one
piece at a time). It is fun and an interesting trusting

experience.
Varda

(Sandi) wrote in message

. com...
I would like to make a mask of my husband's face, but I do not

want to
use plaster. Is there a clay product that will allow me to make

a
sturdy impression of his face?

Thanks!




Sandi



  #10  
Old April 17th 04, 01:58 AM
dawn
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Hi Katherine, if you don't mind a couple more questions, are you putting the
felt in the negative, putting the positive over that to press it in? Is the
felt just wet with water or are you using something else? This is regular,
buy it in Walmart, felt?

--
Dawn Stubitsch
(Home Page) http://www.thumbprintkids.com
(Questions?) http://www.thumbprintkids.com/pages/questions.htm
(Prices & Forms) http://www.thumbprintkids.com/pages/caketoppers.html
(Photo Guidelines) http://www.thumbprintkids.com/pages/...0guidlines.htm
"Katherine Dewey" wrote in message
...
I made a negative of the polymer clay face out of silicone putty. It's

not
exactly a mold, but a partial mold of the area around and including the

eyes,
nose and mouth. This and a large rubber band hold the felt in place. The

felt
takes a day or more to dry. In the oven, it takes less time.

Katherine

dawn wrote:

Katherine, I was curious as to what exactly is used for a felt mold. I'm
assuming felt but I was wondering what type and what the process is.
Sounds interesting.
Dawn Stubitsch
(Home Page) http://www.thumbprintkids.com
(Questions?) http://www.thumbprintkids.com/pages/questions.htm
(Prices & Forms) http://www.thumbprintkids.com/pages/caketoppers.html
(Photo Guidelines)

http://www.thumbprintkids.com/pages/...0guidlines.htm
"Katherine Dewey" wrote in message
...
Just shellac, not varnish, but true shellac. Far easier is to use

alginate. FX supply houses carry it in bulk
and it's cheaper than dental alginate. It sets up quickly, doesn't

heat
up the way plaster does and is more
comfortable during the mold process.
For my masks, I use a sculpted face made of polymer clay as my

positive
and mold a felt armature over that.
I'd like to create a silicone positive and use polymer/epoxy laminates

for
masks in the future when I have the
time.

Katherine Dewey
http://www.elvenwork.com


Varda Levram-Ellisman wrote:

This is very interesting Kathrine, I only reinforced the negative

from
the outside and then made the positive from polymer clay, baked it
removed the clay from the plaster. However, then there was a lot of
work to sand the positive down to make it smooth due to the texture

of
the plaster fabric. What kind of shellac do you use (or is there

only
one kind)?
Varda

Katherine Dewey wrote in message

...
An added note:
There are deep undercuts around the nose, mouth and brows. If you

use
your original face mold to make
plaster positive, you'll end up destroying the original face mold

to
remove it. The process is called
Waste Mold, because the mold is destroyed. You can use the plaster

positive to create a flexible latex or
silicone mold.

Katherine Dewey wrote:

Once you've made a mold with this plaster, add more plaster for

strength. Coat the inside with shellac
and then, after 24 hours, treat with mold release -- Vaseline

thinned with naptha and fill with liquid
plaster (hydrocal or potters plaster) to make a positive form

for
building a mask of polymer clay.

Katherine Dewey
http://www.elvenwork.com

Varda Levram-Ellisman wrote:

Hi Sandi
I used the medical casting plaster. It dries very fast and if

you
put
some face cream before applying the cast it does not leave any
residues on the skin. You cut the bandage-like role into

rectangles
(~2"wide) and follow the instructions (wet in warm water and

apply
one
piece at a time). It is fun and an interesting trusting

experience.
Varda

(Sandi) wrote in message

. com...
I would like to make a mask of my husband's face, but I do

not
want to
use plaster. Is there a clay product that will allow me to

make
a
sturdy impression of his face?

Thanks!




Sandi




 




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