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I tried a drill powered mixer once, and I've heard of others that like
them. I can't remember now why, but I know I liked the results better from just poking it with a stick. Incidentally, with this method, as long as you monitor the drying, and start wedging once a day when it's no longer sticky when you poke a finger in it, it's not hard on your wrists... Brad -- For my pottery how-to videos, original art, music, pottery, and literature, visit my homepage http://sondahl.com To reply to me directly, don't forget to take out the "garbage" from my address. ----== Posted via Newsfeeds.Com - Unlimited-Uncensored-Secure Usenet News==---- http://www.newsfeeds.com The #1 Newsgroup Service in the World! 120,000+ Newsgroups ----= East and West-Coast Server Farms - Total Privacy via Encryption =---- |
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Any clay that I take off of the pot when throwing gets put on plaster to
take out excess water so this just has to be wedged up. I just make a giant marble bit of clay, push something interesting in it, and as I'm doing so I'm pinching it so that it makes something of a handle. You can also carve a design into one or both ends a tube of clay. This is really hard to describe. It doesn't really matter what you push into it or how you form it. It is a hit and miss proposition to some degree. Stamps that I have put a lot of work into don't work in the end because they are too busy and just look messy. Some of my more boring looking stamps make the more interesting designs when used to make multiple patterns. It lets you give texture to pieces easily. As an example - take the marble bit of clay, roll it out to a short sausage shape, carve off little pie shapes in four to six corners to leave a raised pattern on the end. Let this dry, bisque fire and then make a field of flowers in a plate in one corner or section (you can make a center to the flower design by making a stamp that is just pointed to a round end of the size you want that has had a ball point pen or pensil making multiple little indents. If I think of it, I will take some photos and post them but it really is just open to your imagination. Donna "Bubbles" wrote in message ... "DKat" wrote in message ... That is about the size I work with from dry trimmings, failures, etc (5 gallon buckets). For wet clay that comes from working, I just put it on a plaster board as I'm working and then at the end of the session wedge that all up, bag it to add to or use it to make stamps if it isn't enough to throw with. (just remembered I have some recycling at home that I forgot to wedge and bag up - hope the plastic cover was enough to keep it moist...). Hi Donna :-) Good idea with the really wet stuff - but I am trying to avoid too wet - and hope to get better at this - thus I will be mostly just leaving a bucket for a couple of weeks or more (while filling up the next bucket) to dry, then treat. How do you mean about making stamps? Pattern stamps, I suppose. What do you do then? Just form them into a stamp-shape first, then carve them when they are hard enough? Marianne |
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When we used to have lots of clay to recycle we would dump the trash can
sized bucket of clay on a cement porch. We would then walk through the clay until it was nice and mixed. With this we would make a thick tube arched on a wedging board and when dry enough would wedge up chuck up chunk. It wasn't making wine but it did have a 'Lucy' quality to it. Donna "Monika Schleidt" wrote in message ... Bubbles wrote: Hi guys! What I have been doing up until now is to slop my lefotovers (a LOT when you are a newbie on the wheel!) into a 10-liter bucket. Then I crunch the bits down into maximum 2 cm bits or less. But is 10 liters of clay too much to reclaim at once on a gypsum board? Am I being too impatient? Give me your tips on manually reclaimin clay, please! Servus Marianne, I have a lot of clay to recycle, since i have children here working once a week. I found it the easiest way to let it dry completely, bonedry, then put it in a bucket, pour water over it to cover it, after a couple of days I syphon the water off the top, use a drill with one of those mixing fixtures to make a nice cream out of it and then spread it out onto a plasterboard of two, about two inches thick, leave it there, depending on weather conditions, and then wedge it to make usable clay again. If you have bits which are almost leatherhard and submerge them in water, they will never become soft. If this sounds a bit complicated, send me an email and i can explain it in german. Liebe Gruesse, Monika -- Monika Schleidt www.schleidt.org/MSKeramik if you wish to write me a mail, remove the number from my user name |
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Bubbles wrote:
I would be interested in reading about what you do with your kids! I have a "tageskind" (day-kid? haha!) who likes to make stuff, but she sometimes needs some little ideas to give her a creative push. So far, she has made a grotto with holes for her guppies to swim in and out of, a totem-pole-like pole with an alligator-pincher on to for pictures, several different bowls, a cup with 2 handles and a snake wrapped around it, a ring for a giant, a funny-looking frog and a few little other things. She turns 8 tomorrow (30th). It could be fun to invite her and 2-3 friends over to make stuff with me, and then I get it fired at my teacher's workshop. I love to be around kids! Ok, i have 20 kids, in four groups of five each, each group for an hour. The youngest are firstgraders, the oldest are something like 14, 15 years, some have been coming for years, (the longest i had was a girl who came for ten years, she started at age seven and stopped when she almost finished highschool). One of the rules is, i don't tell them what to make, but how to make it. They have to think up something on their own, (I have a few little books though, which they can look through if they cant think of anything to make). Of course they copy each other, there are times they make lots of candlesticks, then they make lots of picture frames, (the latest things were butterflies and roses!) and so on, some of them are very creative and skillfull, others are not, but, whatever they make is ok, is admired, there are no failures, and they all love it. And so do I. Yesterday was the last day for this schoolyear, i fired three kilns this week, to have all their stuff ready, they pack it all up, we play games with the little ones, make chocolate fondue with the older ones and wish each other a happy summer. In summer i have three (or maybe four) weekendworkshops for grownups, Saturday, Sunday, all day. They make, i fire and glaze and fire again. let me know, if i can help you with anything. Monika -- Monika Schleidt www.schleidt.org/MSKeramik if you wish to write me a mail, remove the number from my user name |
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monica, you mind if i join your next class? slounds like a lot of fun!
see ya steve Monika Schleidt wrote: Bubbles wrote: I would be interested in reading about what you do with your kids! I have a "tageskind" (day-kid? haha!) who likes to make stuff, but she sometimes needs some little ideas to give her a creative push. So far, she has made a grotto with holes for her guppies to swim in and out of, a totem-pole-like pole with an alligator-pincher on to for pictures, several different bowls, a cup with 2 handles and a snake wrapped around it, a ring for a giant, a funny-looking frog and a few little other things. She turns 8 tomorrow (30th). It could be fun to invite her and 2-3 friends over to make stuff with me, and then I get it fired at my teacher's workshop. I love to be around kids! Ok, i have 20 kids, in four groups of five each, each group for an hour. The youngest are firstgraders, the oldest are something like 14, 15 years, some have been coming for years, (the longest i had was a girl who came for ten years, she started at age seven and stopped when she almost finished highschool). One of the rules is, i don't tell them what to make, but how to make it. They have to think up something on their own, (I have a few little books though, which they can look through if they cant think of anything to make). Of course they copy each other, there are times they make lots of candlesticks, then they make lots of picture frames, (the latest things were butterflies and roses!) and so on, some of them are very creative and skillfull, others are not, but, whatever they make is ok, is admired, there are no failures, and they all love it. And so do I. Yesterday was the last day for this schoolyear, i fired three kilns this week, to have all their stuff ready, they pack it all up, we play games with the little ones, make chocolate fondue with the older ones and wish each other a happy summer. In summer i have three (or maybe four) weekendworkshops for grownups, Saturday, Sunday, all day. They make, i fire and glaze and fire again. let me know, if i can help you with anything. Monika -- Monika Schleidt www.schleidt.org/MSKeramik if you wish to write me a mail, remove the number from my user name |
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"dkat" wrote in message ... Any clay that I take off of the pot when throwing gets put on plaster to take out excess water so this just has to be wedged up. I just make a giant marble bit of clay, push something interesting in it, and as I'm doing so I'm pinching it so that it makes something of a handle. You can also carve a design into one or both ends a tube of clay. This is really hard to describe. It doesn't really matter what you push into it or how you form it. It is a hit and miss proposition to some degree. Stamps that I have put a lot of work into don't work in the end because they are too busy and just look messy. Some of my more boring looking stamps make the more interesting designs when used to make multiple patterns. It lets you give texture to pieces easily. As an example - take the marble bit of clay, roll it out to a short sausage shape, carve off little pie shapes in four to six corners to leave a raised pattern on the end. Let this dry, bisque fire and then make a field of flowers in a plate in one corner or section (you can make a center to the flower design by making a stamp that is just pointed to a round end of the size you want that has had a ball point pen or pensil making multiple little indents. If I think of it, I will take some photos and post them but it really is just open to your imagination. I see what you mean now, Donna. But I would really love to see a pic of those you have made to get some inspiration :-) Marianne |
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"Monika Schleidt" wrote in message ... Ok, i have 20 kids, in four groups of five each, each group for an hour. The youngest are firstgraders, the oldest are something like 14, 15 years, some have been coming for years, (the longest i had was a girl who came for ten years, she started at age seven and stopped when she almost finished highschool). One of the rules is, i don't tell them what to make, but how to make it. They have to think up something on their own, (I have a few little books though, which they can look through if they cant think of anything to make). Of course they copy each other, there are times they make lots of candlesticks, then they make lots of picture frames, (the latest things were butterflies and roses!) and so on, some of them are very creative and skillfull, others are not, but, whatever they make is ok, is admired, there are no failures, and they all love it. And so do I. Sounds really good! I don't have room for that many, but did have 3 7-year-olds once around the table in my pottery room. We had a lovely time. Do you have books that are especially with ideas for kids/beginners, or just general pottery books? I have a few "saltzteig" (salt-dough?) books with things to make which could also be idea-giving, I suppose. My teacher has had tons of wonderful frogs, totem-poles and other stuff that kids have made. Yesterday was the last day for this schoolyear, i fired three kilns this week, to have all their stuff ready, they pack it all up, we play games with the little ones, make chocolate fondue with the older ones and wish each other a happy summer. Sounds really nice! My "class" are having lunch together before the last real 3-hour stint before summer. In summer i have three (or maybe four) weekendworkshops for grownups, Saturday, Sunday, all day. They make, i fire and glaze and fire again. Ahhhh! So you glaze for everyone? My day-care girl lives so close, she comes and paints on the glaze herself. And I glaze all my stuff myself - as I love to see what effects I can get. let me know, if i can help you with anything. Thanks, Monica! If you have some pictures of what your kids have made, maybe I could print them out to show my kids? Marianne |
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Bubbles wrote:
Ahhhh! So you glaze for everyone? I do that because it is too difficult to get them all together a couple of weeks later again. This way they can just pick up their stuff whenever they have time. Thanks, Monica! If you have some pictures of what your kids have made, maybe I could print them out to show my kids? Too bad, you should have told me last week, when i had boxes of stuff here ;-( Some other time. Monika -- Monika Schleidt www.schleidt.org/MSKeramik if you wish to write me a mail, remove the number from my user name |
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Monika,
If you wouldn't consider this butting in, I can send a link for Marianne to a few pictures of what my young ones have done. Lori |
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"Lori" wrote in message oups.com... Monika, If you wouldn't consider this butting in, I can send a link for Marianne to a few pictures of what my young ones have done. Hi Lori Any tips are welcome, as far as I am concerned, anyway :-) Marianne |
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