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PS-- having an OXYGEN TANK OR A PROPANE TANK INSIDE YOUR HOUSE
is a VIOLATION OF FIRE CODE in most states - and any any municipality that as adopted the "standard fire code." It will also invalidate your household fire insurance.... Cheryl of A HREF="http://www.dragonbeads.com" DRAGON BEADS /A Flameworked beads and glass http://www.dragonbeads.com/ |
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The kiln I have ordered is this one: http://www.hotglassbeads.com/kilnproducts.htm I ordered it because it is 12 inches deep- so it should hold mandrels. I don't have it yet though It's a lot like my old enamelling kiln that I use for an annealer (with some minor modifications)... please note -- un- protected Kiln elements - and wire mandrels do not mix. ZAP! Ok - I will admit I am doing the same - just be very, very careful. Best bet is to kill the power before you insert mandrell - then turn power back on.... However- if you are using a power ramp program for the annealing cycle - that will mess it up. These appear to be well recessed - just do what I do - be VERY CAREFUL.... LOL Cheryl of A HREF="http://www.dragonbeads.com" DRAGON BEADS /A Flameworked beads and glass http://www.dragonbeads.com/ |
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The kiln I have ordered is this one: http://www.hotglassbeads.com/kilnproducts.htm I ordered it because it is 12 inches deep- so it should hold mandrels. I don't have it yet though It's a lot like my old enamelling kiln that I use for an annealer (with some minor modifications)... please note -- un- protected Kiln elements - and wire mandrels do not mix. ZAP! Ok - I will admit I am doing the same - just be very, very careful. Best bet is to kill the power before you insert mandrell - then turn power back on.... However- if you are using a power ramp program for the annealing cycle - that will mess it up. These appear to be well recessed - just do what I do - be VERY CAREFUL.... LOL Cheryl of A HREF="http://www.dragonbeads.com" DRAGON BEADS /A Flameworked beads and glass http://www.dragonbeads.com/ |
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Thank you, you would think the instructor would have gone over this kind of
thing with us.... as I sat there the whole weekend with two very large tanks directly in front of my workstation. shaking head "Cheryl" wrote in message ... PS-- having an OXYGEN TANK OR A PROPANE TANK INSIDE YOUR HOUSE is a VIOLATION OF FIRE CODE in most states - and any any municipality that as adopted the "standard fire code." It will also invalidate your household fire insurance.... Cheryl of A HREF="http://www.dragonbeads.com" DRAGON BEADS /A Flameworked beads and glass http://www.dragonbeads.com/ |
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Thank you, you would think the instructor would have gone over this kind of
thing with us.... as I sat there the whole weekend with two very large tanks directly in front of my workstation. shaking head "Cheryl" wrote in message ... PS-- having an OXYGEN TANK OR A PROPANE TANK INSIDE YOUR HOUSE is a VIOLATION OF FIRE CODE in most states - and any any municipality that as adopted the "standard fire code." It will also invalidate your household fire insurance.... Cheryl of A HREF="http://www.dragonbeads.com" DRAGON BEADS /A Flameworked beads and glass http://www.dragonbeads.com/ |
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That kiln is the one we used in our PMC class.
Tina "KDK" wrote in message ... Woo hoo!!!! The kiln I have ordered is this one: http://www.hotglassbeads.com/kilnproducts.htm I ordered it because it is 12 inches deep- so it should hold mandrels. I don't have it yet though You can also use a butane torch to fire PMC and the "hot pot". Can't offer any info on setting up - for now I'm using a Hot head. Kathy (who's responding to post in backward order) K PS- I'll have a report of my PMC Level II certification class later. "Pam" wrote in message news:KWzib.114014$%h1.121530@sccrnsc02... My lampwork class was this weekend - it was so great! I don't think I can wait for my husband to put a window and ventilation in the garage (because it will probably take a year for that to happen), so I'm eyeing my laundry room - it's got a window that opens, a ventilation fan in the ceiling...tile floors... it's small, but maybe that is good since I tend to SPREAD all my cr@p out everywhere and small would make me want to stay organized. Do you think it's ok to do it in the house like that? And now I'm eyeing two starter kits: http://www.arrowsprings.com/html/kits.html The Basics - Professional MINOR BURNER OXYGEN REGULATOR PROPANE REGULATOR HOSE SET Regular: $331.00 DISCOUNT PRICE: $297.90 and same stuff (don't know about the brand of the burner) he http://www.artglass1.com/kitslamp4.htm for $269. Has anyone ever ordered from Sundance? Their prices for everything seem really a bunch lower than the other places I'm finding... sometimes you get what you pay for - is this the case with them? Their kilns are also lower priced than most I've been finding... I know I don't need a kiln right off - because I know I need lots of practice... but having a kiln would let me start playing with PMC right off and that would make me really happy too I think... plus there is a PMC certification class in March - so if I started playing now, I might be ready for that by then.... so I'm back to kiln questions. A lot of the kilns I'm finding that have the built in controller and a front door say they are good for PMC, fusing and annealing... but I'm wondering how in the world do you put the beads with the mandrels still on them in the kiln and then close the door - I think the mandrels would stick out too far - see this pictu http://www.artglass1.com/paragon-sc2-1-r.htm and scroll down to where they have the fiber blankets and bead rack set up - do they NOT close the door?? Do they just use the fiber blanket to hold the heat in??? I'm so confused. I thought you had to lock them up tight, let them soak, then ramp the temp down slowly... Ok that's it for now I think... thanks for any responses! Pam |
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That kiln is the one we used in our PMC class.
Tina "KDK" wrote in message ... Woo hoo!!!! The kiln I have ordered is this one: http://www.hotglassbeads.com/kilnproducts.htm I ordered it because it is 12 inches deep- so it should hold mandrels. I don't have it yet though You can also use a butane torch to fire PMC and the "hot pot". Can't offer any info on setting up - for now I'm using a Hot head. Kathy (who's responding to post in backward order) K PS- I'll have a report of my PMC Level II certification class later. "Pam" wrote in message news:KWzib.114014$%h1.121530@sccrnsc02... My lampwork class was this weekend - it was so great! I don't think I can wait for my husband to put a window and ventilation in the garage (because it will probably take a year for that to happen), so I'm eyeing my laundry room - it's got a window that opens, a ventilation fan in the ceiling...tile floors... it's small, but maybe that is good since I tend to SPREAD all my cr@p out everywhere and small would make me want to stay organized. Do you think it's ok to do it in the house like that? And now I'm eyeing two starter kits: http://www.arrowsprings.com/html/kits.html The Basics - Professional MINOR BURNER OXYGEN REGULATOR PROPANE REGULATOR HOSE SET Regular: $331.00 DISCOUNT PRICE: $297.90 and same stuff (don't know about the brand of the burner) he http://www.artglass1.com/kitslamp4.htm for $269. Has anyone ever ordered from Sundance? Their prices for everything seem really a bunch lower than the other places I'm finding... sometimes you get what you pay for - is this the case with them? Their kilns are also lower priced than most I've been finding... I know I don't need a kiln right off - because I know I need lots of practice... but having a kiln would let me start playing with PMC right off and that would make me really happy too I think... plus there is a PMC certification class in March - so if I started playing now, I might be ready for that by then.... so I'm back to kiln questions. A lot of the kilns I'm finding that have the built in controller and a front door say they are good for PMC, fusing and annealing... but I'm wondering how in the world do you put the beads with the mandrels still on them in the kiln and then close the door - I think the mandrels would stick out too far - see this pictu http://www.artglass1.com/paragon-sc2-1-r.htm and scroll down to where they have the fiber blankets and bead rack set up - do they NOT close the door?? Do they just use the fiber blanket to hold the heat in??? I'm so confused. I thought you had to lock them up tight, let them soak, then ramp the temp down slowly... Ok that's it for now I think... thanks for any responses! Pam |
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Thanks again Kandice I'm jealous - I doubt I'll have 30 spare hours a
week to do anything until my kid gets into school at least... but the safety issues are important to me regardless - plus not having to lug a big tank around sounds great. Pam "Kandice Seeber" wrote in message news This is where I got my concentrator - it's about $300 including shipping and will last for a really long time. Extremely easy to use, and you never have to pay again for oxygen. http://suncoastbeads.com/ I was paying about $100 per month for oxygen tanks to be filled and delivered to my house. Of course, I used a tank every two weeks - that's about 30 hours per week on the torch for me. Your useage may vary, but the super nice thing is there's never any worrying about running out of oxy, or waiting for the delivery guy. The concentrator has already paid for itself in my book. Check wetcanvas for lots of info on concentrators - also Paulette, the owner of the site above, frequently posts info on wetcanvas and is very good about answering technical questions. -- Kandice Seeber Air & Earth Designs http://www.lampwork.net |
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Thanks again Kandice I'm jealous - I doubt I'll have 30 spare hours a
week to do anything until my kid gets into school at least... but the safety issues are important to me regardless - plus not having to lug a big tank around sounds great. Pam "Kandice Seeber" wrote in message news This is where I got my concentrator - it's about $300 including shipping and will last for a really long time. Extremely easy to use, and you never have to pay again for oxygen. http://suncoastbeads.com/ I was paying about $100 per month for oxygen tanks to be filled and delivered to my house. Of course, I used a tank every two weeks - that's about 30 hours per week on the torch for me. Your useage may vary, but the super nice thing is there's never any worrying about running out of oxy, or waiting for the delivery guy. The concentrator has already paid for itself in my book. Check wetcanvas for lots of info on concentrators - also Paulette, the owner of the site above, frequently posts info on wetcanvas and is very good about answering technical questions. -- Kandice Seeber Air & Earth Designs http://www.lampwork.net |
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Ok, I hear you - outside it will go
"Mary Ann" wrote in message m... Being the worrier that I am, you REALLY need to have the propane tank outside (meaning not in an enclosed area.) Here is one possible scenario of having it in the garage: Something happens, you don't realize it but the tank vents (releases the gas into the room). You (or someone else) walk in flip the light switch or open the garage door, you get a spark and kaboom!! Now, here is also a scenario that actually happened to me: |
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