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  #31  
Old February 27th 05, 04:48 AM
melinda
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Kate Dicey wrote:
Pogonip wrote:
She who would like to be obeyed once every Preston Guild wrote:
In article , Arri London of no uttered


Because this is a stupidly-designed 'open plan' house: no doors
between kitchen, dining room and living room.


Oh blimey. How about putting them out at night? They have fur coats,
after all! (hehehe! I know, i'm cruel)


If you let your cats out at all, you will be dealing with contagious
disease and parasites from other cats, wounds from disagreements, cats
accidentally locked in people's garages, garden sheds, basements (I had
one missing for nearly 3 weeks who came home severely dehydrated, thin
as a rail, with intestinal parasites from the insects he'd been eating
to survive), and motor vehicles. Not to mention people with warped
thoughts and actions who abuse and kill small animals. In many areas
you also have coyotes and feral dogs.


If your cat(s) are members of the family and you want them to live more
than 6 or 8 years, keep them indoors.


It's very different for cats here in the UK. Most of them go out all
the time. We've had a few cat fight injuries over the years, and a
couple of car arguments, but both cats survived well, and have, on the
whole, done better than many humans! Here they are top of the food
chain in their little niche, and have no natural enemies other than
badly trained dogs. We could no more keep our cats in than we could a
child - it would be equally cruel. Ours have free access to the outside
world whenever they want it. They both love the great outdoors, and
hate to be shut in. If I lived somewhere I couldn't let a cat out, I
wouldn't have a cat.


Here you keep cats in to protect the native wildlife more than to
prtect the cat.

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Old February 27th 05, 05:27 AM
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melinda wrote:

Here you keep cats in to protect the native wildlife more than to
prtect the cat.


In my backyard there is a tree full of various birdfeeders and usually
full of birds, plus the groundfeeders below who eat what the sparrows
kick out of the feeder for them. There are cats living in the duplex
behind me, plus a number of itinerant cats who come to our yard because
it is the largest on the block - perhaps more than our block. I often
sit on my back porch and watch. Cats surveil, stalk, sneak, tiptoe,
hide, dash, etc., but the birds seem to be laughing. The cats all
appear to be well-nourished, but it isn't because of the birds. There
is one squirrel in the neighborhood, too. He has come over a few times,
gotten an apricot pit or two, before being run off by the birds who are
really nasty to him.

However, anything could have happened this winter. We had a small herd
of deer come by our house and go into the park across the street. We've
had an unusual amount of snow and many animals weren't able to get to
their usual food so they have come into town. This would include
coyotes, mountain lions and even bears.
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Old February 27th 05, 11:12 AM
She who would like to be obeyed once every Preston
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In article , Debra of AT&T
Worldnet uttered

I'm glad your pets can roam in a country that has many less dangers are
there are here. But please don't look down your nose at those of us
who are protecting our pets from the very real dangers that exist
in our own country.

Hmmm. I have friends in a number of differing environments in the US,
and they don't see the need to keep their pets under house arrest ...
but then they do view their cats as just that. Cats. Not child
substitutes...
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AJH
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Old February 27th 05, 11:20 AM
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In article , Arri London of no uttered


She who would like to be obeyed once every Preston Guild wrote:

In article , Arri London of no uttered
Because this is a stupidly-designed 'open plan' house: no doors between
kitchen, dining room and living room.


Oh blimey. How about putting them out at night? They have fur coats,
after all! (hehehe! I know, i'm cruel)
--

AJH


We have cats because we like them in the house. Besides there are
coyotes and loose dogs around here.
Anyway Ruby loves to help me sew. She especially enjoys watching the
embroidery progress LOL.

My last one used to sit on my knee ... which made machine knitting an
interesting exercise. He did learn to sleep on his own towel and not in
the fabric boxes though.
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AJH
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  #35  
Old February 27th 05, 12:22 PM
Kate Dicey
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melinda wrote:


Here you keep cats in to protect the native wildlife more than to
prtect the cat.


I think you'd like Cornflake: he does a great line in eating bunnies,
which, I believe, are a pest where you are, much as they are here!
--
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Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
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Old February 27th 05, 12:25 PM
Kate Dicey
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Pogonip wrote:

melinda wrote:


Here you keep cats in to protect the native wildlife more than to
prtect the cat.


In my backyard there is a tree full of various birdfeeders and usually
full of birds, plus the groundfeeders below who eat what the sparrows
kick out of the feeder for them. There are cats living in the duplex
behind me, plus a number of itinerant cats who come to our yard because
it is the largest on the block - perhaps more than our block. I often
sit on my back porch and watch. Cats surveil, stalk, sneak, tiptoe,
hide, dash, etc., but the birds seem to be laughing. The cats all
appear to be well-nourished, but it isn't because of the birds. There
is one squirrel in the neighborhood, too. He has come over a few times,
gotten an apricot pit or two, before being run off by the birds who are
really nasty to him.


I dare not have bird feeders, and put nothing out for them as I have a
levitating cat! He's had birds on the wing several times, so I don't
encourage them.

However, anything could have happened this winter. We had a small herd
of deer come by our house and go into the park across the street. We've
had an unusual amount of snow and many animals weren't able to get to
their usual food so they have come into town. This would include
coyotes, mountain lions and even bears.


Exit pursued by a bear...


--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
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Old February 27th 05, 12:54 PM
She who would like to be obeyed once every Preston
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Yeah, it seems somehow unfair to line them up too stuffed to tweet with
an unprincipled marauding moggy on the prowl. If not for a neighbour's
bird table, I'd have said our last beastie was too slow to catch a cold.
His predecessor used to bring mice in and try to keep them as pets - I
am good at catching irate field mice.

In article , Kate
Dicey of Customer of PlusNet plc (http://www.plus.net) uttered

I dare not have bird feeders, and put nothing out for them as I have a
levitating cat! He's had birds on the wing several times, so I don't
encourage them.


--

AJH
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Old February 27th 05, 01:24 PM
Kate Dicey
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She who would like to be obeyed once every Preston Guild wrote:

Yeah, it seems somehow unfair to line them up too stuffed to tweet with
an unprincipled marauding moggy on the prowl. If not for a neighbour's
bird table, I'd have said our last beastie was too slow to catch a cold.
His predecessor used to bring mice in and try to keep them as pets - I
am good at catching irate field mice.


Hehehe! Sugar Puff likes to do that. We have had live bunny hiding
behind the waste paper basket, hiding in the sideboard, and cowering
under the sofa, birdies crapping on the table, hiding on top of the
kitchen cupboards, and flying into the windows, and meece wot chewed
holes in the new skirting boards, ate their way through a whole cupboard
of dry goods (raisins, organic oats, breakfast cereal and the like... ),
and produced families in beside the central heating pipes! All were
imported by the cats when it was cold or wet outside, to play with later.

--
Kate XXXXXX R.C.T.Q Madame Chef des Trolls
Lady Catherine, Wardrobe Mistress of the Chocolate Buttons
http://www.diceyhome.free-online.co.uk
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Old February 27th 05, 01:33 PM
She who would like to be obeyed once every Preston
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I am suddenly very glad indeed that Fidget's one and only rat was very
dead indeed. It was a fine sturdy specimen, glossy fur, bright eyes ...
raised the question "How did a cat that size get a rat that size through
a cat-flap that size". The little s0d didn't do it again though.

In message , Kate
Dicey writes
Hehehe! Sugar Puff likes to do that. We have had live bunny hiding
behind the waste paper basket, hiding in the sideboard, and cowering
under the sofa, birdies crapping on the table, hiding on top of the
kitchen cupboards, and flying into the windows, and meece wot chewed
holes in the new skirting boards, ate their way through a whole
cupboard of dry goods (raisins, organic oats, breakfast cereal and the
like... ), and produced families in beside the central heating pipes!
All were imported by the cats when it was cold or wet outside, to play
with later.


--

AJH
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Old February 27th 05, 01:35 PM
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"Karen Maslowski" wrote in message
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That's nice to know! ;-

Yep, Dalmatians can be vicious dogs, but so much depends on the owners,
almost as much as the breed.

Karen Maslowski in Ohio



Any dog can be vicious - or not!

Iris (had a Dal who was a powderpuff - even when my baby son pulled her
tail!)


 




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