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Old January 13th 09, 07:03 AM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.needlework
Fred
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Default EFD was IvyJane Update


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I am just soooooo pleased with her. I'm also very happy that the
paperwork says she was rescued on DH's b-day. He misses Reno (Black
Cat)
terribly because she was his favourite as she would sit with him on
the
sofa and share his cereal milk, etc. I wish you could have seen the
look
on his face when I showed him the paperwork and he saw when IvyJane
was
rescued :-))))). She's definitely a keeper to say the least! CiaoMeow
^;;^

PAX, Tia Mary ^;;^ (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about
their whiskers!
Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary

Hi Tia Mary,
Having met you and your DH I had no idea that there might be an EFD
problem
in your household. My heart goes out to you both. We have a facility
here
that tries to help people who are afflicted with this terrible problem
but
the success rate is very sporadic. The facility located here is staffed
and
funded by volunteers who have gone through the rather aggressive six
step
program.

The first step is the same as most other programs and that is where the
client or patient must come to terms with the fact that he/she has a
EFD
problem. The second step is to identify the seriousness of the EFD
problem.
If there is an EFD chapter in your area volunteers will be more than
happy
to enlighten the two of you as to the clinical signs of EFD. If I
remember
correctly the first clinical signs of someone being afflicted with EFD
is
when they constantly allow a cat to rest in their lap. That is quite
possibly the earliest warning sign that there is and when recognized,
the
EFD problem can usually be prevented from getting worse. I warn you
that
to
the best of my knowledge there is really no known cure for EFD at the
moment. Signs that the EFD has progressed to the critical stage are;
cats
sharing the same bed, compulsive litter box emptying, cats sitting on
the
sofa and sharing cereal milk. You say that your DH is displaying this
last
symptom and I'm afraid that the prognosis is not good, but there is
always
hope.

Hang in there!

Prior to a professional counselling session I would suggest that you
curb
any and all cats sharing the same bed with you and your DH. Do the best
you
can to keep any litter box emptying compulsions to a minimum. Try to
set
a
good example for your DH. The sitting on the sofa and sharing cereal
milk
with cats is going to be a rough one that will definitely require
professional counselling.

I have heard that getting three or four young aggressive canine friends
that
require lots and lots of attention can go a long way in slowing down
the
progression of EFD; young Dobermans and young Giant Alaskan Malamutes
are
a
good choice to start with. Please remember that the decision to seek
help
is
a personal matter and must be made on one's own volition.

I got lucky and recognized that I might have a EFD problem on my hands
very
early when DW's collection of cats started to increase. We were able to
apply a bit of tough love and curb the cat population to a quantity of
two
until they passed over the rainbow bridge. Acquiring our Giant Alaskan
Malamute Chillkoot was a tremendous help for us. My buddy bear has
passed
on
but I am happy to say that I have just recently acquired a Giant
Alaskan
Malamute puppy for my DW. That should go a long way in preventing EFD
from
raising it's ugly head again, but that is for another post. One can not
be
too vigilant when it comes to EFD!!

Help stamp out Excessive Feline Dependency,
please support your local (EFD) chapter!!!
Get a dog!!!

Fred
http://www.stitchaway.com
If nothing changes, nothing changes.
Don't back stitch to email, just stitchit.




This is just so clever, and such fun to read.

Do I have your permission to forward this to my friend who fell and
fractured her knee the other day. This will surely cheer her up.
She's
totally immersed in the rest and recreation of her two cats, who have
complete control of everything that goes on in her house.

Lucille


Sounds as if your friend is living close to the point of no return. I
can
see that you are a very compassionate person who wants to help radicate
EFD,
so by all means forward the post to her.

Help stamp out Excessive Feline Dependency,
please support your local (EFD) chapter!!!
Get a dog!!!

Fred
http://www.stitchaway.com
If nothing changes, nothing changes.
Don't back stitch to email, just stitchit.




I did forward it to her and she was delighted with it. Thanks much. You
made me smile when I read it, and you made my poor uncomfortable friend
very happy.

Good luck with the new baby. I know he will give you a lot of pleasure.

Lucille

Luck I don't need! Eyes in the back of my head would be handy though.
Puppy proofing the house was quite easy, puppy proofing my shop is another
matter altogether.

Fred
http://www.stitchaway.com
If nothing changes, nothing changes.
Don't back stitch to email, just stitchit.


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  #2  
Old January 13th 09, 12:41 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.needlework
Tia Mary
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Default EFD was IvyJane Update

Fred wrote:
Luck I don't need! Eyes in the back of my head would be handy though.
Puppy proofing the house was quite easy, puppy proofing my shop is another
matter altogether.

Fred
http://www.stitchaway.com
If nothing changes, nothing changes.
Don't back stitch to email, just stitchit.


iF THIS IS mARJORIE'S DOG HOW COME you NEED EYES IN THE BACK OF YOUR
HEAD OR THE SHOP NEEDS TO BE PUPPY PROOFED? Sorry -- hit the caps key.
You sound like DH. The cats are mine until one of them decides they
really like him -- as Reno (Black Cat) did -- then he starts to "talk
story" about HIS cat :-).
OH -- BTW -- EFD is only "E" if you have a problem with more then a
few cats. MOI -- I've had as many as seven and had no problem with them
8-P******. Even so and with three kitties (not sure if I should count
IvyJane -- I might start calling her the Stealth Kitty instead of
Garbanzo Brain, since we hardly ever see her) I still miss having a
doggie! Thank heavens I didn't grow up with birds or gerbils or mice or
some such -- LOLOL! CiaoMeow ^;;^

PAX, Tia Mary ^;;^ (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about
their whiskers!
Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary
  #3  
Old January 13th 09, 03:00 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.needlework
Bruce Fletcher (remove dentures to reply)
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Default EFD was IvyJane Update

Tia Mary wrote:
OH -- BTW -- EFD is only "E" if you have a problem with more then a
few cats. MOI -- I've had as many as seven and had no problem with them
8-P******. Even so and with three kitties (not sure if I should count
IvyJane -- I might start calling her the Stealth Kitty instead of
Garbanzo Brain, since we hardly ever see her) I still miss having a
doggie! Thank heavens I didn't grow up with birds or gerbils or mice or
some such -- LOLOL! CiaoMeow ^;;^

PAX, Tia Mary ^;;^ (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about
their whiskers!
Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary



Sadly some mis-guided folk keep more cats than they are capable of
looking after:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/7825396.stm
--
Bruce Fletcher
Stronsay, Orkney UK
http://claremont.island-blogging.co.uk
"Never ask a man if he is from Yorkshire. If he is he will surely tell
you. If he's not, why embarrass him?"
  #4  
Old January 13th 09, 03:24 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.needlework
Tia Mary
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Default EFD was IvyJane Update

Bruce Fletcher (remove dentures to reply) wrote:
Sadly some mis-guided folk keep more cats than they are capable of
looking after:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_midlands/7825396.stm


People like that don't suffer from "EFD" or even "ECD" (for Canines).
Those people suffer from terminal stupidity! I was beyond my limit
at seven cats and as the kitties went to the Rainbow Bridge, I got down
to three kitties and stayed that way for about 10 years. That was
manageable but when one of those kitties went to the Rainbow Bridge
several years ago, I decided that two kitties was plenty. That way each
kitty would have a human to love on them and no one would go wanting.
The ONLY sane and humane way to keep lots & lots of cats or dogs is
to have some sort of kennel set up. Even at that, I don't think the
babies get the amount of personal human attention many of them need to
become people friendly pets (IvyJane being a good example). If done
properly, the babies are kept safe and properly fed and cared for but
it's a LOT of work and takes oodles of $$$. I wonder if the elderly
woman in the article had bothered to have any of the cats spayed or
neutered? VBS -- don't get me started on people who take in loads of
stray animals! Better to give your time and $$ to an organization that
has a feral animal trap, spay & release program! CiaoMeow ^;;^

PAX, Tia Mary ^;;^ (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about
their whiskers!
Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary
  #5  
Old January 14th 09, 01:24 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.needlework
ellice
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Default EFD was IvyJane Update

On 1/13/09 2:03 AM, "Fred" wrote:


"lucille" wrote in message
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"Fred" wrote in message
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"lucille" wrote in message
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"Fred" wrote in message
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I am just soooooo pleased with her. I'm also very happy that the
paperwork says she was rescued on DH's b-day. He misses Reno (Black
Cat)
terribly because she was his favourite as she would sit with him on
the
sofa and share his cereal milk, etc. I wish you could have seen the
look
on his face when I showed him the paperwork and he saw when IvyJane
was
rescued :-))))). She's definitely a keeper to say the least! CiaoMeow
^;;^

PAX, Tia Mary ^;;^ (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said about
their whiskers!
Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary

Hi Tia Mary,
Having met you and your DH I had no idea that there might be an EFD
problem
in your household. My heart goes out to you both. We have a facility
here
that tries to help people who are afflicted with this terrible problem
but
the success rate is very sporadic. The facility located here is staffed
and
funded by volunteers who have gone through the rather aggressive six
step
program.

The first step is the same as most other programs and that is where the
client or patient must come to terms with the fact that he/she has a
EFD
problem. The second step is to identify the seriousness of the EFD
problem.
If there is an EFD chapter in your area volunteers will be more than
happy
to enlighten the two of you as to the clinical signs of EFD. If I
remember
correctly the first clinical signs of someone being afflicted with EFD
is
when they constantly allow a cat to rest in their lap. That is quite
possibly the earliest warning sign that there is and when recognized,
the
EFD problem can usually be prevented from getting worse. I warn you
that
to
the best of my knowledge there is really no known cure for EFD at the
moment. Signs that the EFD has progressed to the critical stage are;
cats
sharing the same bed, compulsive litter box emptying, cats sitting on
the
sofa and sharing cereal milk. You say that your DH is displaying this
last
symptom and I'm afraid that the prognosis is not good, but there is
always
hope.

Hang in there!

Prior to a professional counselling session I would suggest that you
curb
any and all cats sharing the same bed with you and your DH. Do the best
you
can to keep any litter box emptying compulsions to a minimum. Try to
set
a
good example for your DH. The sitting on the sofa and sharing cereal
milk
with cats is going to be a rough one that will definitely require
professional counselling.

I have heard that getting three or four young aggressive canine friends
that
require lots and lots of attention can go a long way in slowing down
the
progression of EFD; young Dobermans and young Giant Alaskan Malamutes
are
a
good choice to start with. Please remember that the decision to seek
help
is
a personal matter and must be made on one's own volition.

I got lucky and recognized that I might have a EFD problem on my hands
very
early when DW's collection of cats started to increase. We were able to
apply a bit of tough love and curb the cat population to a quantity of
two
until they passed over the rainbow bridge. Acquiring our Giant Alaskan
Malamute Chillkoot was a tremendous help for us. My buddy bear has
passed
on
but I am happy to say that I have just recently acquired a Giant
Alaskan
Malamute puppy for my DW. That should go a long way in preventing EFD
from
raising it's ugly head again, but that is for another post. One can not
be
too vigilant when it comes to EFD!!

Help stamp out Excessive Feline Dependency,
please support your local (EFD) chapter!!!
Get a dog!!!

Fred
http://www.stitchaway.com
If nothing changes, nothing changes.
Don't back stitch to email, just stitchit.




This is just so clever, and such fun to read.

Do I have your permission to forward this to my friend who fell and
fractured her knee the other day. This will surely cheer her up.
She's
totally immersed in the rest and recreation of her two cats, who have
complete control of everything that goes on in her house.

Lucille

Sounds as if your friend is living close to the point of no return. I
can
see that you are a very compassionate person who wants to help radicate
EFD,
so by all means forward the post to her.

Help stamp out Excessive Feline Dependency,
please support your local (EFD) chapter!!!
Get a dog!!!

Fred
http://www.stitchaway.com
If nothing changes, nothing changes.
Don't back stitch to email, just stitchit.




I did forward it to her and she was delighted with it. Thanks much. You
made me smile when I read it, and you made my poor uncomfortable friend
very happy.

Good luck with the new baby. I know he will give you a lot of pleasure.

Lucille

Luck I don't need! Eyes in the back of my head would be handy though.
Puppy proofing the house was quite easy, puppy proofing my shop is another
matter altogether.

Fred

Called a gate - for the time being! Don't have him in the shop. Of course,
last time I had a puppy - and had him hanging with us in the framing shop,
it was a hard time keeping him out of the framing area with all the glass,
etc that would end up on the floor. And then, we'd gate him into the rear
office area - still in the work place - but he could see into the LNS.
Would look up - while helping a customer, and the guy was climbing the gate
like a cat. Oh, well. Fortunately as that continued, although he could get
over anything, he learned to just respect the barrier idea. So, now, we
can just lean a gate in an open doorway, or the like - and even when it's
not really a full blockade, Puckster will just not go there. He ends up
sitting on a landing for a lot of big dinners - gate leaning at the base of
the stairs - for whatever reason he learned that, and it works.

Good luck with the puppy proofing. My friend - owner of the LNS/Frame shop
- has a gorgewous dainty (hah) Malamuate female. Her son bought Sasha as a
puppy when graduating from college - about 4 years ago - uh huh. The dog is
definitely here - not with the son and his wife. Lovely dog, and great
conmpany - same problem. Store in a different location - so when needed can
be sent to the office - which has carpeting and window out front - but
keeping her out of the rear workshop can get a little tough. Fortunately
this shop is much more open spacewise, and she hasn't knocked over any of
the more delicate or elderly customers - she's a big girl. It's really fun
when both dogs are in the shop!

Ellice

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Old January 14th 09, 03:21 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.needlework
Fred
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"ellice" wrote in message
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On 1/13/09 2:03 AM, "Fred" wrote:


"lucille" wrote in message
...
"Fred" wrote in message
...

"lucille" wrote in message
...
"Fred" wrote in message
...
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I am just soooooo pleased with her. I'm also very happy that the
paperwork says she was rescued on DH's b-day. He misses Reno (Black
Cat)
terribly because she was his favourite as she would sit with him on
the
sofa and share his cereal milk, etc. I wish you could have seen the
look
on his face when I showed him the paperwork and he saw when IvyJane
was
rescued :-))))). She's definitely a keeper to say the least!
CiaoMeow
^;;^

PAX, Tia Mary ^;;^ (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said
about
their whiskers!
Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary

Hi Tia Mary,
Having met you and your DH I had no idea that there might be an EFD
problem
in your household. My heart goes out to you both. We have a facility
here
that tries to help people who are afflicted with this terrible
problem
but
the success rate is very sporadic. The facility located here is
staffed
and
funded by volunteers who have gone through the rather aggressive six
step
program.

The first step is the same as most other programs and that is where
the
client or patient must come to terms with the fact that he/she has a
EFD
problem. The second step is to identify the seriousness of the EFD
problem.
If there is an EFD chapter in your area volunteers will be more than
happy
to enlighten the two of you as to the clinical signs of EFD. If I
remember
correctly the first clinical signs of someone being afflicted with
EFD
is
when they constantly allow a cat to rest in their lap. That is quite
possibly the earliest warning sign that there is and when recognized,
the
EFD problem can usually be prevented from getting worse. I warn you
that
to
the best of my knowledge there is really no known cure for EFD at the
moment. Signs that the EFD has progressed to the critical stage are;
cats
sharing the same bed, compulsive litter box emptying, cats sitting on
the
sofa and sharing cereal milk. You say that your DH is displaying this
last
symptom and I'm afraid that the prognosis is not good, but there is
always
hope.

Hang in there!

Prior to a professional counselling session I would suggest that you
curb
any and all cats sharing the same bed with you and your DH. Do the
best
you
can to keep any litter box emptying compulsions to a minimum. Try to
set
a
good example for your DH. The sitting on the sofa and sharing cereal
milk
with cats is going to be a rough one that will definitely require
professional counselling.

I have heard that getting three or four young aggressive canine
friends
that
require lots and lots of attention can go a long way in slowing down
the
progression of EFD; young Dobermans and young Giant Alaskan Malamutes
are
a
good choice to start with. Please remember that the decision to seek
help
is
a personal matter and must be made on one's own volition.

I got lucky and recognized that I might have a EFD problem on my
hands
very
early when DW's collection of cats started to increase. We were able
to
apply a bit of tough love and curb the cat population to a quantity
of
two
until they passed over the rainbow bridge. Acquiring our Giant
Alaskan
Malamute Chillkoot was a tremendous help for us. My buddy bear has
passed
on
but I am happy to say that I have just recently acquired a Giant
Alaskan
Malamute puppy for my DW. That should go a long way in preventing EFD
from
raising it's ugly head again, but that is for another post. One can
not
be
too vigilant when it comes to EFD!!

Help stamp out Excessive Feline Dependency,
please support your local (EFD) chapter!!!
Get a dog!!!

Fred
http://www.stitchaway.com
If nothing changes, nothing changes.
Don't back stitch to email, just stitchit.




This is just so clever, and such fun to read.

Do I have your permission to forward this to my friend who fell and
fractured her knee the other day. This will surely cheer her up.
She's
totally immersed in the rest and recreation of her two cats, who have
complete control of everything that goes on in her house.

Lucille

Sounds as if your friend is living close to the point of no return. I
can
see that you are a very compassionate person who wants to help radicate
EFD,
so by all means forward the post to her.

Help stamp out Excessive Feline Dependency,
please support your local (EFD) chapter!!!
Get a dog!!!

Fred
http://www.stitchaway.com
If nothing changes, nothing changes.
Don't back stitch to email, just stitchit.




I did forward it to her and she was delighted with it. Thanks much.
You
made me smile when I read it, and you made my poor uncomfortable friend
very happy.

Good luck with the new baby. I know he will give you a lot of
pleasure.

Lucille

Luck I don't need! Eyes in the back of my head would be handy though.
Puppy proofing the house was quite easy, puppy proofing my shop is
another
matter altogether.

Fred

Called a gate - for the time being! Don't have him in the shop. Of
course,
last time I had a puppy - and had him hanging with us in the framing shop,
it was a hard time keeping him out of the framing area with all the glass,
etc that would end up on the floor. And then, we'd gate him into the rear
office area - still in the work place - but he could see into the LNS.
Would look up - while helping a customer, and the guy was climbing the
gate
like a cat. Oh, well. Fortunately as that continued, although he could
get
over anything, he learned to just respect the barrier idea. So, now, we
can just lean a gate in an open doorway, or the like - and even when it's
not really a full blockade, Puckster will just not go there. He ends up
sitting on a landing for a lot of big dinners - gate leaning at the base
of
the stairs - for whatever reason he learned that, and it works.

Good luck with the puppy proofing. My friend - owner of the LNS/Frame
shop
- has a gorgewous dainty (hah) Malamuate female. Her son bought Sasha as
a
puppy when graduating from college - about 4 years ago - uh huh. The dog
is
definitely here - not with the son and his wife. Lovely dog, and great
conmpany - same problem. Store in a different location - so when needed
can
be sent to the office - which has carpeting and window out front - but
keeping her out of the rear workshop can get a little tough. Fortunately
this shop is much more open spacewise, and she hasn't knocked over any of
the more delicate or elderly customers - she's a big girl. It's really
fun
when both dogs are in the shop!

Ellice


In Alaska an editor for a mag. that Marjorie used to write for told her an
interesting story about an Alaskan Malamute. It is well known that they get
bored very quickly, less than 5 minutes when not sleeping. Anyhooo... A
doctor locked up his big mal in his office in his home and he and his wife
went out to a restaurant for supper. When they returned home the big mal was
sitting on the front step of their house. They thought at first that their
house had been burglarized and the thieves had let the big mal out. After
finding no signs of a break and enter the doctor went into his office. His
big mal had chewed his way out through the wall of the doctor's office.
Apparently the big mal suffered no ill effects from chewing through the
stone board, wood and aluminium siding.

RCMP will tell you that the natives up north used to knock the teeth out of
their mal puppies to prevent them from chewing their wooden sleds, harnesses
and canned food supplies, then they used to feed those same dogs frozen fish
and seal fat. Knocking the teeth out didn't always prevent the mals from
chewing a sled to bits.

Chilkoot could chew a soft drink can to bits faster than you can wink an
eye. He liked to go after anything sweet that was left in the can. There
were quite a few times when I would notice bits of soft drink can in his
stool yet no chewed up can could be found. I guess he must have buried the
rest of the can for a snack later and forgot about it.

Marjorie had a giant female mal (Mazie) that would get bored very quickly. I
put Mazie in a cage made from 4" x 4" timbers and took Chilkoot for a 1/2
mile walk. When I returned to take Mazie for her walk she had already chewed
her way out through the 4" x 4" timbers and was waiting for her turn.

Chilkoot never chewed wood of any kind, Mazie must of had a few Beaver genes
in her somewhere, anything made of wood would get turned into chips in
minutes. From my experience they hate boredom. Both dogs were well behaved
in my van as long as I left the tape player running and didn't leave them
for more than 3/4 hour.

These critters like women can be very demanding but you gotta love them!LOL

Fred
http://www.stitchaway.com
If nothing changes, nothing changes.
Don't back stitch to email, just stitchit.






  #7  
Old January 14th 09, 04:41 PM posted to rec.crafts.textiles.needlework
ellice
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Default EFD was IvyJane Update

On 1/14/09 10:21 AM, "Fred" wrote:


"ellice" wrote in message
...
On 1/13/09 2:03 AM, "Fred" wrote:


"lucille" wrote in message
...
"Fred" wrote in message
...

"lucille" wrote in message
...
"Fred" wrote in message
...
Snip
I am just soooooo pleased with her. I'm also very happy that the
paperwork says she was rescued on DH's b-day. He misses Reno (Black
Cat)
terribly because she was his favourite as she would sit with him on
the
sofa and share his cereal milk, etc. I wish you could have seen the
look
on his face when I showed him the paperwork and he saw when IvyJane
was
rescued :-))))). She's definitely a keeper to say the least!
CiaoMeow
^;;^

PAX, Tia Mary ^;;^ (RCTQ Queen of Kitties)
Angels can't show their wings on earth but nothing was ever said
about
their whiskers!
Visit my Photo albums at http://community.webshots.com/user/tiamary

Hi Tia Mary,
Having met you and your DH I had no idea that there might be an EFD
problem
in your household. My heart goes out to you both. We have a facility
here
that tries to help people who are afflicted with this terrible
problem
but
the success rate is very sporadic. The facility located here is
staffed
and
funded by volunteers who have gone through the rather aggressive six
step
program.

The first step is the same as most other programs and that is where
the
client or patient must come to terms with the fact that he/she has a
EFD
problem. The second step is to identify the seriousness of the EFD
problem.
If there is an EFD chapter in your area volunteers will be more than
happy
to enlighten the two of you as to the clinical signs of EFD. If I
remember
correctly the first clinical signs of someone being afflicted with
EFD
is
when they constantly allow a cat to rest in their lap. That is quite
possibly the earliest warning sign that there is and when recognized,
the
EFD problem can usually be prevented from getting worse. I warn you
that
to
the best of my knowledge there is really no known cure for EFD at the
moment. Signs that the EFD has progressed to the critical stage are;
cats
sharing the same bed, compulsive litter box emptying, cats sitting on
the
sofa and sharing cereal milk. You say that your DH is displaying this
last
symptom and I'm afraid that the prognosis is not good, but there is
always
hope.

Hang in there!

Prior to a professional counselling session I would suggest that you
curb
any and all cats sharing the same bed with you and your DH. Do the
best
you
can to keep any litter box emptying compulsions to a minimum. Try to
set
a
good example for your DH. The sitting on the sofa and sharing cereal
milk
with cats is going to be a rough one that will definitely require
professional counselling.

I have heard that getting three or four young aggressive canine
friends
that
require lots and lots of attention can go a long way in slowing down
the
progression of EFD; young Dobermans and young Giant Alaskan Malamutes
are
a
good choice to start with. Please remember that the decision to seek
help
is
a personal matter and must be made on one's own volition.

I got lucky and recognized that I might have a EFD problem on my
hands
very
early when DW's collection of cats started to increase. We were able
to
apply a bit of tough love and curb the cat population to a quantity
of
two
until they passed over the rainbow bridge. Acquiring our Giant
Alaskan
Malamute Chillkoot was a tremendous help for us. My buddy bear has
passed
on
but I am happy to say that I have just recently acquired a Giant
Alaskan
Malamute puppy for my DW. That should go a long way in preventing EFD
from
raising it's ugly head again, but that is for another post. One can
not
be
too vigilant when it comes to EFD!!

Help stamp out Excessive Feline Dependency,
please support your local (EFD) chapter!!!
Get a dog!!!

Fred
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This is just so clever, and such fun to read.

Do I have your permission to forward this to my friend who fell and
fractured her knee the other day. This will surely cheer her up.
She's
totally immersed in the rest and recreation of her two cats, who have
complete control of everything that goes on in her house.

Lucille

Sounds as if your friend is living close to the point of no return. I
can
see that you are a very compassionate person who wants to help radicate
EFD,
so by all means forward the post to her.

Help stamp out Excessive Feline Dependency,
please support your local (EFD) chapter!!!
Get a dog!!!

Fred
http://www.stitchaway.com
If nothing changes, nothing changes.
Don't back stitch to email, just stitchit.




I did forward it to her and she was delighted with it. Thanks much.
You
made me smile when I read it, and you made my poor uncomfortable friend
very happy.

Good luck with the new baby. I know he will give you a lot of
pleasure.

Lucille
Luck I don't need! Eyes in the back of my head would be handy though.
Puppy proofing the house was quite easy, puppy proofing my shop is
another
matter altogether.

Fred

Called a gate - for the time being! Don't have him in the shop. Of
course,
last time I had a puppy - and had him hanging with us in the framing shop,
it was a hard time keeping him out of the framing area with all the glass,
etc that would end up on the floor. And then, we'd gate him into the rear
office area - still in the work place - but he could see into the LNS.
Would look up - while helping a customer, and the guy was climbing the
gate
like a cat. Oh, well. Fortunately as that continued, although he could
get
over anything, he learned to just respect the barrier idea. So, now, we
can just lean a gate in an open doorway, or the like - and even when it's
not really a full blockade, Puckster will just not go there. He ends up
sitting on a landing for a lot of big dinners - gate leaning at the base
of
the stairs - for whatever reason he learned that, and it works.

Good luck with the puppy proofing. My friend - owner of the LNS/Frame
shop
- has a gorgewous dainty (hah) Malamuate female. Her son bought Sasha as
a
puppy when graduating from college - about 4 years ago - uh huh. The dog
is
definitely here - not with the son and his wife. Lovely dog, and great
conmpany - same problem. Store in a different location - so when needed
can
be sent to the office - which has carpeting and window out front - but
keeping her out of the rear workshop can get a little tough. Fortunately
this shop is much more open spacewise, and she hasn't knocked over any of
the more delicate or elderly customers - she's a big girl. It's really
fun
when both dogs are in the shop!

Ellice


In Alaska an editor for a mag. that Marjorie used to write for told her an
interesting story about an Alaskan Malamute. It is well known that they get
bored very quickly, less than 5 minutes when not sleeping. Anyhooo... A
doctor locked up his big mal in his office in his home and he and his wife
went out to a restaurant for supper. When they returned home the big mal was
sitting on the front step of their house. They thought at first that their
house had been burglarized and the thieves had let the big mal out. After
finding no signs of a break and enter the doctor went into his office. His
big mal had chewed his way out through the wall of the doctor's office.
Apparently the big mal suffered no ill effects from chewing through the
stone board, wood and aluminium siding.


Wow. That's some dedication to not being bored.

RCMP will tell you that the natives up north used to knock the teeth out of
their mal puppies to prevent them from chewing their wooden sleds, harnesses
and canned food supplies, then they used to feed those same dogs frozen fish
and seal fat. Knocking the teeth out didn't always prevent the mals from
chewing a sled to bits.

Chilkoot could chew a soft drink can to bits faster than you can wink an
eye. He liked to go after anything sweet that was left in the can. There
were quite a few times when I would notice bits of soft drink can in his
stool yet no chewed up can could be found. I guess he must have buried the
rest of the can for a snack later and forgot about it.


Makes Pucksters penchant for used Q-tips seem harmless (except when he's
either throwing them up - or as DH refers to it "BLURFFF"). Our vet was
concerned that he likes to eat things that don't pass easily, and that when
we catch him quickly after eating something with edges - should make him
BLURFF with a dose of hydrogen peroxide. The cans - pretty amazing. The
most Puckster has done is styrofoam boxes that had held some baked goods.

Marjorie had a giant female mal (Mazie) that would get bored very quickly. I
put Mazie in a cage made from 4" x 4" timbers and took Chilkoot for a 1/2
mile walk. When I returned to take Mazie for her walk she had already chewed
her way out through the 4" x 4" timbers and was waiting for her turn.


Ouch.

Chilkoot never chewed wood of any kind, Mazie must of had a few Beaver genes
in her somewhere, anything made of wood would get turned into chips in
minutes. From my experience they hate boredom. Both dogs were well behaved
in my van as long as I left the tape player running and didn't leave them
for more than 3/4 hour.


Puckster definitely doesn't like to be bored, so we leave him with music on
- sometimes new age, sometimes jazz. And plenty of toys.

These critters like women can be very demanding but you gotta love them!LOL

Fred

Ummm - how to take that? They are lovable. I think that my friend worked
really hard with training their Mal, and Sasha is pretty well behaved but
definitely wants a visit when I'm there. Which is fine if there aren't
other customers. She's quite large, and silver/gray - much like yours. I
haven't had any dogs as an adult that didn't require something to do. The
BC/Lab would drag his security blankie (towel) around with him, and always
herded anything. He was the chewer.

I thought the blue-eyes went with the smaller Huskies, not Mals? Anyhow,
thanks for the info - I can tell you're already in love with the new baby.

Ellice

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Fred

Ummm - how to take that? They are lovable. I think that my friend worked
really hard with training their Mal, and Sasha is pretty well behaved but
definitely wants a visit when I'm there. Which is fine if there aren't
other customers. She's quite large, and silver/gray - much like yours. I
haven't had any dogs as an adult that didn't require something to do. The
BC/Lab would drag his security blankie (towel) around with him, and always
herded anything. He was the chewer.

I thought the blue-eyes went with the smaller Huskies, not Mals? Anyhow,
thanks for the info - I can tell you're already in love with the new baby.

Ellice


Yes blue eyes go with Huskies. With mals it is a no, no and not up to A.K.A
breed standards.

Fred
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Fred wrote:
Yes blue eyes go with Huskies. With mals it is a no, no and not up to A.K.A
breed standards.


At long last the UK Kennel Club is revising its standards but the
breeders are complaining.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4243182/Kennel-Club-dog-breeding-shake-up-not-radical-enough-RSPCA-says.html
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"Bruce Fletcher (remove dentures to reply)"
wrote in message ...
Fred wrote:
Yes blue eyes go with Huskies. With mals it is a no, no and not up to
A.K.A
breed standards.


At long last the UK Kennel Club is revising its standards but the breeders
are complaining.
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/4243182/Kennel-Club-dog-breeding-shake-up-not-radical-enough-RSPCA-says.html
or
http://tinyurl.com/8soe2s
--
Bruce Fletcher
Stronsay, Orkney UK
http://claremont.island-blogging.co.uk
"Never ask a man if he is from Yorkshire. If he is he will surely tell
you. If he's not, why embarrass him?"


I found it really sad to see what happened to the British Bull dog,
Dachshund and Peaks. I think the Mastiff is another breed that is in trouble
also. My father and I stopped breeding Cocker Spaniels 30 years ago when we
couldn't find replacement stock with any brains left in them. I am of the
opinion that when it comes to unpredictable dog attacks on humans the cocker
is worse than the pit bull. I could probably pick out every malcontent
cocker out of a hundred with 99% accuracy just by looking at them. Those
malcontents wag their tails one second and bite the next - too much
inbreeding.

One of the ways for the Kennel Clubs could help to protect the animals would
be to prohibit Kennel Club registrations of puppies from the same bitch
twice in the same 12 month period. I won't hold my breath on that idea,
there is too much money involved. I have no quarrel with some hair/fur
conditioners being used but some of the hair spray, starch and powders being
used on the toy poodles makes me want to puke! I might add that back combing
any dog to make it look fluffier than normal makes me want to scream! I
guess that is why I haven't participated in the shows for a long time.

I like the northern working dogs and there are storm clouds of interbreeding
on the horizon for those poor dogs as well. The Mals appear to be going in
two different directions; smaller, fluffier for show and larger for pets;
neither one getting the exercise that they need; neither one being fed
properly and now being subject to bloat and aspirated pneumonia. A potential
giant Mal puppy can be ruined by improper feeding, especially over or under
calcium intakes measuring in the 1/2%s. Then there were a few idiots that
bred the Mals with wolves thinking it was a cool thing for the public to
have a dog that looked like a wolf when in fact the outcome was neither.
Thank goodness the wolf interbreeding has now been made illegal here. The so
called wolf hybrids remaining are being kept in shelters and allowed to die
off. I supported the wolf re-habitation in Idaho and Yellow Stone because it
was needed but to bred them with dogs was nuts. The Mals are bigger and
nicer looking just as they are. Off my rant......

Fred
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