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norma woods opined thusly:
Correct me if I'm wrong, but one of the guys had his hat on, and I would swear that I saw the join in the hat. I think it was knitted flat, and sewn together after. It was a pale colour. It's entirely possible that one or more of the caps worn on the show were knitted flat. I haven't noticed any like that, but I've also not seen every minute of every episode. I did sit and re-read about the traditional Monmouth caps today though. They were definately knit in the round. -- Regards, --Anne Remove DIESPAMBOTDIE to e-mail Blog Info: http://www.emptycauldron.com/weblog/musings.php http://www.emptycauldron.com/weblog/atom.xml |
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Okay. I accept that DPNs were around at lot earlier than I thought. I
am having a little trouble accepting that they were FIRST..but that is okay.. You know of what you speak, and I humbly take it as it must be true. I STILL think I can do this....with the decreases and shaped....as _I_ saw the hats on T.V. I don't know ANYTHING about "Monmouth" hats or anything else. Just liked the "look" of the hat...and don't see any "big deal" about how it might have been accomoplished in the 1600's...I'm just interested in a hat that LOOKs like those hats...and can be done with a STRAGHT needle. And I THINK...but am not postitive ...it can!!!! I could be all wet! I sure apprecriate those of you who are interested in my little effort....and if I DO pull it off...I will take copious notes and let you know. I just love to expand my mind. If I was wrong about DPNs and circular..my apologies. Thank GOD there are straight needles now, because if there weren't...I could not physically knit!!!! Emma |
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I followed this discussion with Surprise ,, Emma
you might read some Older books and see a lot of methods ,, By the way The Famous`Knitting Madona `s all painted in the 15th century , at least one knitts a shirt`s neck with LONG dp s mirjam Okay. I accept that DPNs were around at lot earlier than I thought. I am having a little trouble accepting that they were FIRST..but that is okay.. You know of what you speak, and I humbly take it as it must be true. I STILL think I can do this....with the decreases and shaped....as _I_ saw the hats on T.V. I don't know ANYTHING about "Monmouth" hats or anything else. Just liked the "look" of the hat...and don't see any "big deal" about how it might have been accomoplished in the 1600's...I'm just interested in a hat that LOOKs like those hats...and can be done with a STRAGHT needle. And I THINK...but am not postitive ...it can!!!! I could be all wet! I sure apprecriate those of you who are interested in my little effort....and if I DO pull it off...I will take copious notes and let you know. I just love to expand my mind. If I was wrong about DPNs and circular..my apologies. Thank GOD there are straight needles now, because if there weren't...I could not physically knit!!!! Emma |
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In article ,
wrote: I STILL think I can do this....with the decreases and shaped....as _I_ saw the hats on T.V. I don't know ANYTHING about "Monmouth" hats or anything else. Just liked the "look" of the hat...and don't see any "big deal" about how it might have been accomplished in the 1600's...I'm just interested in a hat that LOOKs like those hats...and can be done with a STRAGHT needle. And I THINK...but am not positive ...it can!!!! Sure it can. People knit socks and gloves on button-ended knitting needles and sew them together, and I know there are hat patterns out there too. A search for a "two-needle beanie" might bring up something helpful. if I DO pull it off...I will take copious notes and let you know. Great! I'm sure other two-needle knitters will appreciate your work. =Tamar |
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Dawn wrote: What do these Colonial House hats look like? The Monmouth cap is a small skullcap, like a beanie or watch cap, but instead of ribbing it has a double-thickness edge. It is made in fairly heavy yarn, worsted weight or even heavier. There's a little bump or button on the middle of the top, and a small loop at the edge that can be hitched over the button to make a kind of small impromptu pocket. There's another 17th century knitted hat that some people think may be a variation on the Monmouth cap; it's taller and has a brim that seems to hold its shape and stick out flat, sort of like a bowler hat. Peter the Great brought a couple of them home to Russia after he spent some time working in the Netherlands (if I recall correctly). There's a third type that is like the second kind with a floppier brim that hangs down and gives the hat a bell shape. All of them were knitted out of wool and then fulled but not usually completely felted. Some might have been felted too. =Tamar |
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opined thusly:
Okay. I accept that DPNs were around at lot earlier than I thought. I am having a little trouble accepting that they were FIRST..but that is okay.. You know of what you speak, and I humbly take it as it must be true. I STILL think I can do this....with the decreases and shaped....as _I_ saw the hats on T.V. I don't know ANYTHING about "Monmouth" hats or anything else. Just liked the "look" of the hat...and don't see any "big deal" about how it might have been accomoplished in the 1600's...I'm just interested in a hat that LOOKs like those hats...and can be done with a STRAGHT needle. And I THINK...but am not postitive ...it can!!!! I could be all wet! I sure apprecriate those of you who are interested in my little effort....and if I DO pull it off...I will take copious notes and let you know. I just love to expand my mind. If I was wrong about DPNs and circular..my apologies. Thank GOD there are straight needles now, because if there weren't...I could not physically knit!!!! Emma Designing your own beanie style hats done on straight needles should be a fun and enjoyable project for you. :-) -- Regards, --Anne Remove DIESPAMBOTDIE to e-mail Blog Info: http://www.emptycauldron.com/weblog/musings.php http://www.emptycauldron.com/weblog/atom.xml |
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Hi Dawn, they are basically just a toque.
-- Star love, Norma PM OES "Dawn" wrote in message ... What do these Colonial House hats look like? Dawn New Brunswick, Canada wrote in message ... I think I can do it..and WITHOUT circular needles, "provisional cast ons" or DPNs!!!!!! Yes I DO!!!! And...if you folks will give me about 12 days (since I am still finishing my "bee stitch" top..which will take another 2 or 3 days, since I have Bible study tomorrow)...I will SHOW you...and write out the pattern!!!!! Okay....let's say _14_ days. But I KNOW what to do. AND...I doubt seriously ..seriously!.....there were any DPNs in the Colonial days. IN fact...I think I'd just about bank on it. Those folks back then couldn't and wouldn't deal with such details. They were lucky to get any sort of knitting needle at all..and I am pretty sure "double pointed needles" were NOT part of their experience. I think that that system..the DPN... was probably invented MUCH later by people who had idle time and fiddled and played..and found it successful. But NOT in the Colonial times. I think DPNs came along...if I recall correctly...a couple of hundred years later....after the 1600's. What do ya think? You interested?? Emma |
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Sorry Dawn, I should have said a toque that is shaped to the head with
decreases. -- Star love, Norma PM OES "Richard Eney" wrote in message ... In article , wrote: I STILL think I can do this....with the decreases and shaped....as _I_ saw the hats on T.V. I don't know ANYTHING about "Monmouth" hats or anything else. Just liked the "look" of the hat...and don't see any "big deal" about how it might have been accomplished in the 1600's...I'm just interested in a hat that LOOKs like those hats...and can be done with a STRAGHT needle. And I THINK...but am not positive ...it can!!!! Sure it can. People knit socks and gloves on button-ended knitting needles and sew them together, and I know there are hat patterns out there too. A search for a "two-needle beanie" might bring up something helpful. if I DO pull it off...I will take copious notes and let you know. Great! I'm sure other two-needle knitters will appreciate your work. =Tamar |
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