Internships

On Mar 5, 8:34*am, Frank Reid wrote:
Okay folks,
* Christmas list Frank here. *I have a daughter who is working on her
degree in textile and fabric design at the University of Nebraska.
She needs an internship to graduate. *She has applied to most of the
[snipped]
*So, long story short, does anyone know of any internship
opportunities? *No internship, no graduation.
Frank Reid

I don't know of any specific opportunities unfortunately, but after a
little bit of googling, I found this site:
http://www.quiltstudy.org/index.html
It appears that they do internships ( at least that is the impression
I got from reading information about the associate fellows on this
page: http://www.quiltstudy.org/about_us/staff/fellows.html ), so
maybe your daughter could inquire there, if she has not already?
In any case, I wish her the best of luck!
//Mary/MGL

Howdy!

Frank, is your daughter going to this Career Day in Dallas?
Thinking about it? Going to similar events? Looks like a networking
opportunity to get in touch w/ other parts of the textile world.
Does the American Quilt Study Group in Lincoln offer anything along
this line? Internship, referral, suggestions, hope?
What are the parameters of her internship program? What areas of
study/work (internship) will qualify as part of her degree requirement?
Persistence, talking to real people, checking back w/ the rejection
letter-writers, can offer information on other leads to follow.
If she's coming to Dallas & wants a quilt contact, I'm not far away.
This FGI program looks interesting, even to a professional handquilter
who is not looking for an internship, job or degree. ;-)

Good luck! And to your daughter, as well.

R/Sandy


On 3/5/10 7:34 AM, in article
, "Frank
Reid" wrote:

Okay folks,
Christmas list Frank here. I have a daughter who is working on her
degree in textile and fabric design at the University of Nebraska.
She needs an internship to graduate. She has applied to most of the
major fashion houses, fabric producers, and others. No one is hiring
(though she did get some great thank you letters saying that she more
than qualifies but they have suspended internships due to the
economy).
A little about her. She is a Junior, a whiz at quilting and an
absolute long-arm genius. Her free hand styles are impressing many
very experienced quilters. She has been selected to present a jacket
that she designed and her portfolio at the FGI Dallas Career Day.
She's only one of two from Nebraska selected (the jacket is a recycled
jeans jacket that she took the middle out, turned the denim into 1/2"
strips, sewed them together and then knitted the strips to remake the
jacket from the yoke down).
She has an incredible eye for colors and many quilters seek out her
judgement at the quilt store she works at part time.
So, long story short, does anyone know of any internship
opportunities? No internship, no graduation.
Frank Reid

This 'internship' element astounds me.
We have a granddaughter who is almost graduated from the university but
FIRST she must 'practice' teach. For the privilege (?), she was expected to
'pay' the school where she would do her practicing.
Really?
When we know that they also hire substitute teachers with no
qualifications at all.
GRRR. And teachers cannot be released because none of their students
pass.
Our system is in a real mess. Polly

There was a teacher doing her in class stint in my dd's 5th grade class
years ago. There happened to be an earthquake while she was 'teaching' in
the portable classroom. It seems she went kind of nuts, cursing and sort of
scrambled. She actually failed, thankfully. She was awful.
I expect more of your grand daughter Polly, lots more. : )

Both the kid here did internships. Both got paid. DD found hers through
the college. She turned that internship into a real job that has worked out
pretty well for her. Because she was familiar with the situation she was
able to go in and make some fairly big demands that were met. She still
says she had no back up plan if they didn't hire her but since she lived at
home she could be pretty flexible about a job hunt. Things were different
a few years ago though.

Does the degree issuing school give any help with this stuff? I know not
much about this stuff but seems if they offer a degree they should be
some support?
Taria

"Polly Esther" wrote in message
...
This 'internship' element astounds me.
We have a granddaughter who is almost graduated from the university but
FIRST she must 'practice' teach. For the privilege (?), she was expected
to 'pay' the school where she would do her practicing.
Really?
When we know that they also hire substitute teachers with no
qualifications at all.
GRRR. And teachers cannot be released because none of their students
pass.
Our system is in a real mess. Polly

Brian Christiansen wrote:


I'm sorry - I think that in today's econony, offering to give a company
free labor not only means that someone might be laid off or someone might
not be hired , infact, I think it is very likely in today's economy, even
if the company does not conciously think something like "we are taking on
an unpaid
intern, so we can lay off someone else". As far as I am concerned, how it
very likely to affect someone else, is a real consideration.

It is status quo.
They have been operating like this for years. Some companies offer interns
with specific qualifications a stipend. Some organizations offer interns in
specific fields a stipend. In courses where an internship is required
though you will be lucky if they don't make you pay for the privilege of
working for them, and run your legs to stumps with all they heap on to boot.

I doubt that it will affect anybody's job. Companies have been taking
advantage of students like this for a while now. They are very familiar
with all the ins and outs of getting free labor via internships and such
things. We have had better than 10% unemployment in my area for more than
two decades, I have seen a lot of the ways that companies get free labor. I
have even been taken advantage of in such ways.


Ceasing the search at for-profit companies, because they have no paid
positions (or even unpaid), does not mean "giving up" either, or that the
only choice is to offer them free labor, it just means she has to look
elsewhere. I have no idea the exact requirements of the internship. Can
her
job at the LQS (I assume it is an LQS) be made into an internship? Can
she volunteer with the cash-strapped government in a position that can be
made
into an internship? Can she volunteer with a charitable organization,
such as: http://www.conservation-us.org/, or something that is perhaps
more local to her and make that volunteer work into an internship (as far
as I can tell, is an organization that depends at least partially on
volunteers).

Making an internship where none exists is something that students have been
doing since they became required in certain fields.
I don't think there are many government or non-profit opportunities in
fashion or fabric design. Her best bet along those lines would probably be
an ethnic or folklore center, or a fashion or textile museum. Still iffy
but depending on her major it might be doable.

You know, alt.gothic has a big do every year, and part of that do is a
fashion show. If Frank would like I can dig out the names of the
participating designers in the past and send them along. There might be one
or two that are established enough as houses to take on an intern.
In fact, searching the fashion groups in general might be an idea.
An internship with a small or niche house might well be more educational
than with a large one. Less gofer stuff and more involvement in the actual
work perhaps.

NightMist

--
I'm raising a developmentally disabled child. What's your superpower?

When I did my computer science internship in 1983, I was not paid; in
fact I paid tuition for the credits I received. I was married with kids,
so was limited geographically in my search for an internship; otherwise,
I could have probably had a paying one. In my experience, student
teachers are not paid -- and that is pretty much the same thing.

Julia in MN

Brian Christiansen wrote:
"Lelandite" wrote in message
...
You can't live on what-ifs or maybe's. That just appears to others that
one
is not serious looking for whatever is needed in their life. Sorry, but
the maybe's
and what if's sounds like an excuse not to even try.

I'm sorry - I think that in today's econony, offering to give a company free
labor not only means that someone might be laid off or someone might not be
hired , infact, I think it is very likely in today's economy, even if the
company does not conciously think something like "we are taking on an unpaid
intern, so we can lay off someone else". As far as I am concerned, how it
very likely to affect someone else, is a real consideration.

Ceasing the search at for-profit companies, because they have no paid
positions (or even unpaid), does not mean "giving up" either, or that the
only choice is to offer them free labor, it just means she has to look
elsewhere. I have no idea the exact requirements of the internship. Can her
job at the LQS (I assume it is an LQS) be made into an internship? Can she
volunteer with the cash-strapped government in a position that can be made
into an internship? Can she volunteer with a charitable organization, such
as: http://www.conservation-us.org/, or something that is perhaps more local
to her and make that volunteer work into an internship (as far as I can
tell, is an organization that depends at least partially on volunteers).

Brian Christiansen




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My son did an internship in risk management at a resort, he didn't get
paid, it lasted a semester @ 40 hr/wk, and he got to pay full tuition
to Penn State for arranging it!

Luckily it was near home so he didn't have to pay room and board too.
Bonnie, in Middletown, VA


On Mon, 8 Mar 2010 09:47:02 -0800 (PST), "//Mary/mgl"
wrote:

On Mar 7, 11:58*pm, "Brian Christiansen"
wrote:
"Frank Reid" wrote in message

...

Okay folks,
*Christmas list Frank here. *I have a daughter who is working on her
degree in textile and fabric design at the University of Nebraska.
She needs an internship to graduate.

Something that would concern me about an unpaid internship is that the
company might think "hey, let's take her on as an unpaid intern, and we can
lay off one more person." * *Even if a position did come open, they might
continue using your daughter as unpaid labor rather than hiring someone for
the work (your daughter or someone else). Can her job at the quilt store be
made into an internship?

Brian Christiansen

I thought internships were usually unpaid anyway. The trick with that
is that they
are also usually (to my understanding) of a limited duration (like the
length of a
semester), with limited hours, all of which is stated up front, and
possibly drawn
up into a contract. This hypothetical seems unlikely in that case.

//Mary/MGL

On 3/9/2010 12:24 AM, NightMist wrote:
Brian Christiansen wrote:


I'm sorry - I think that in today's econony, offering to give a company
free labor not only means that someone might be laid off or someone might
not be hired , infact, I think it is very likely in today's economy, even
if the company does not conciously think something like "we are taking on
an unpaid
intern, so we can lay off someone else". As far as I am concerned, how it
very likely to affect someone else, is a real consideration.

It is status quo.
They have been operating like this for years. Some companies offer interns
with specific qualifications a stipend. Some organizations offer interns in
specific fields a stipend. In courses where an internship is required
though you will be lucky if they don't make you pay for the privilege of
working for them, and run your legs to stumps with all they heap on to boot.

I doubt that it will affect anybody's job. Companies have been taking
advantage of students like this for a while now. They are very familiar
with all the ins and outs of getting free labor via internships and such
things. We have had better than 10% unemployment in my area for more than
two decades, I have seen a lot of the ways that companies get free labor. I
have even been taken advantage of in such ways.


Ceasing the search at for-profit companies, because they have no paid
positions (or even unpaid), does not mean "giving up" either, or that the
only choice is to offer them free labor, it just means she has to look
elsewhere. I have no idea the exact requirements of the internship. Can
her
job at the LQS (I assume it is an LQS) be made into an internship? Can
she volunteer with the cash-strapped government in a position that can be
made
into an internship? Can she volunteer with a charitable organization,
such as: http://www.conservation-us.org/, or something that is perhaps
more local to her and make that volunteer work into an internship (as far
as I can tell, is an organization that depends at least partially on
volunteers).

Making an internship where none exists is something that students have been
doing since they became required in certain fields.
I don't think there are many government or non-profit opportunities in
fashion or fabric design. Her best bet along those lines would probably be
an ethnic or folklore center, or a fashion or textile museum. Still iffy
but depending on her major it might be doable.

You know, alt.gothic has a big do every year, and part of that do is a
fashion show. If Frank would like I can dig out the names of the
participating designers in the past and send them along. There might be one
or two that are established enough as houses to take on an intern.
In fact, searching the fashion groups in general might be an idea.
An internship with a small or niche house might well be more educational
than with a large one. Less gofer stuff and more involvement in the actual
work perhaps.

NightMist


This is totally out of the box, but what about spending a little time at
a professional dance company (a classical ballet costume shop would be a
really great place) or theater company as an internship? While the
construction methods might sometimes be different, there is still a need
for design and ingenuity. It could give some experience with working
under pressure and with a wide variety of fabrics...and people. My DD's
ballet company (where I'm now the head seamstress...and it took me 7
years to get there) is in process of making all new tutus for
Nutcracker, and we decided we wanted more community involvement, so we
offered two internships to the local technical college's fashion
industry class. In exchange, they receive free tickets to shows, and a
wider experience base. It is VERY difficult to get into the fashion
world, and any foot in the door is one to grab! Just my two cents.

--
Jenn in Tacoma
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jalynne/
http://kinney-kreations.blogger.com

On 3/9/2010 8:02 AM, Jenn in Tacoma wrote:
On 3/9/2010 12:24 AM, NightMist wrote:
Brian Christiansen wrote:


I'm sorry - I think that in today's econony, offering to give a company
free labor not only means that someone might be laid off or someone
might
not be hired , infact, I think it is very likely in today's economy,
even
if the company does not conciously think something like "we are
taking on
an unpaid
intern, so we can lay off someone else". As far as I am concerned,
how it
very likely to affect someone else, is a real consideration.

It is status quo.
They have been operating like this for years. Some companies offer
interns
with specific qualifications a stipend. Some organizations offer
interns in
specific fields a stipend. In courses where an internship is required
though you will be lucky if they don't make you pay for the privilege of
working for them, and run your legs to stumps with all they heap on to
boot.

I doubt that it will affect anybody's job. Companies have been taking
advantage of students like this for a while now. They are very familiar
with all the ins and outs of getting free labor via internships and such
things. We have had better than 10% unemployment in my area for more than
two decades, I have seen a lot of the ways that companies get free
labor. I
have even been taken advantage of in such ways.


Ceasing the search at for-profit companies, because they have no paid
positions (or even unpaid), does not mean "giving up" either, or that
the
only choice is to offer them free labor, it just means she has to look
elsewhere. I have no idea the exact requirements of the internship. Can
her
job at the LQS (I assume it is an LQS) be made into an internship? Can
she volunteer with the cash-strapped government in a position that
can be
made
into an internship? Can she volunteer with a charitable organization,
such as: http://www.conservation-us.org/, or something that is perhaps
more local to her and make that volunteer work into an internship (as
far
as I can tell, is an organization that depends at least partially on
volunteers).

Making an internship where none exists is something that students have
been
doing since they became required in certain fields.
I don't think there are many government or non-profit opportunities in
fashion or fabric design. Her best bet along those lines would
probably be
an ethnic or folklore center, or a fashion or textile museum. Still iffy
but depending on her major it might be doable.

You know, alt.gothic has a big do every year, and part of that do is a
fashion show. If Frank would like I can dig out the names of the
participating designers in the past and send them along. There might
be one
or two that are established enough as houses to take on an intern.
In fact, searching the fashion groups in general might be an idea.
An internship with a small or niche house might well be more educational
than with a large one. Less gofer stuff and more involvement in the
actual
work perhaps.

NightMist


This is totally out of the box, but what about spending a little time at
a professional dance company (a classical ballet costume shop would be a
really great place) or theater company as an internship? While the
construction methods might sometimes be different, there is still a need
for design and ingenuity. It could give some experience with working
under pressure and with a wide variety of fabrics...and people. My DD's
ballet company (where I'm now the head seamstress...and it took me 7
years to get there) is in process of making all new tutus for
Nutcracker, and we decided we wanted more community involvement, so we
offered two internships to the local technical college's fashion
industry class. In exchange, they receive free tickets to shows, and a
wider experience base. It is VERY difficult to get into the fashion
world, and any foot in the door is one to grab! Just my two cents.

And may I add, that this internship isn't taking jobs away from anyone,
because it's a special project, but likely to be an ongoing one now that
we have set up a relationship with the technical school.

--
Jenn in Tacoma
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jalynne/
http://kinney-kreations.blogger.com

My students do one or two internships in the course of their program.
They pay tuition for those opportunites and are rarely paid (and when
there are problems with a placement, it is almost always with a paid
one).

It is part of my job to assist the students in securing an appropriate
placement. Hopefully, Frank's daughter has a similar faculty resource
offering guidance and suggestions within the program's field and with
knowledge of the educational expectations for the student.

Mary