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news On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:55:28 GMT, Anna wrote: "The Golliwog (originally spelled Golliwogg) is the least known of = the major anti-Black caricatures in the United States. ..." http://www.ferris.edu/news/jimcrow/golliwog/ Strange that they say it is grotesque! I had a lovely golly - much loved and hugged. Perhaps the golly has different meanings for different nationalities? I am in UK. It is rather odd isn't it? I'm in the UK and remember having the golly = character on jars of Robertsons jam. We loved collecting the labels so = that we could send off for an enamel badge with the golly doing every = job imaginable, from spaceman to lollipop man. Definately not anti-black. Sarah --=20 |
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Hubby is from England too. I thought it was offensive (Canada) but he told
me I was being rediculous, his little doll was much loved & he used to take it everywhere with him:) So I think you're probably right Liz:) -- Trish http://community.webshots.com/user/trishirvine http://www.geocities.com/marshalldouglas2001/ "Liz" wrote in message news On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:55:28 GMT, Anna wrote: "Tania" wrote in message news:rP3Db.71846$bC.34379@clgrps13... I am looking for a knitted or crochet pattern to make a Golliwog, can anyone help me please? Tania. Oh yaaaaaaaaaa Merry Christmas everyone hahaha "The Golliwog (originally spelled Golliwogg) is the least known of the major anti-Black caricatures in the United States. ..." http://www.ferris.edu/news/jimcrow/golliwog/ Strange that they say it is grotesque! I had a lovely golly - much loved and hugged. Perhaps the golly has different meanings for different nationalities? I am in UK. -- Liz Hanson |
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In article , "Sarah Carter"
wrote: Liz wrote in message = news On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:55:28 GMT, Anna wrote: "The Golliwog (originally spelled Golliwogg) is the least known of = the major anti-Black caricatures in the United States. ..." http://www.ferris.edu/news/jimcrow/golliwog/ Strange that they say it is grotesque! I had a lovely golly - much loved and hugged. Perhaps the golly has different meanings for different nationalities? I am in UK. It is rather odd isn't it? I'm in the UK and remember having the golly = character on jars of Robertsons jam. We loved collecting the labels so = that we could send off for an enamel badge with the golly doing every = job imaginable, from spaceman to lollipop man. Definately not anti-black. Sarah --=20 Sarah, if there ever was a racial connection with this Goliwogg, it is nice to hear and read that that is gone now and we have moved on to it being a black doll among many other dolls to be hugged and loved...... Els -- I have added a trap for spammers......niet..... |
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Katherine wrote: My son had a golliwog which he loved dearly. I think that this has become a case of being a bit too politically correct. It is OK to have stuffed toys with orange faces, green faces, blue faces - in fact, every colour but black. Looking carefully at the style of doll, I think the Golliwog is just a black version of the Raggedy Ann and Andy dolls, or maybe they were red-haired copies of the Golly. As far as 'politically correctness' goes, you should visit New Orleans and see the fine-art black dolls that are made and sold there! I believe at least some of them are made by black artists, and they don't seem to think that there is any problem with representing certain shapes and facial expressions. It's just a doll. =Tamar |
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Liz,
I was born in the UK. My parents wouldn't let me have a Golliwog because of the racist innuendo. WE ARE BLACK and originate from Jamaica!!! To me it was the first and (at the time) only doll of my colour. I wanted one so desperately - all my friends had dolls of "their colour", why couldn't I. Mom & Dad never explained racism to me. Looking back - it was their way of bringing me up to be non-racist. it worked - but I never got a Golliwog. By the time I was old enough to realise that there were tokens on the Robertson marmalade jars, dear old Golli was withdrawn. Hey! I wonder if my friends still want one. off to get the pattern.... -- Kari (in the UK) SpamTrap: I will have "no spam" emailed to me! "Liz" wrote in message news On Sun, 14 Dec 2003 21:55:28 GMT, Anna wrote: "Tania" wrote in message news:rP3Db.71846$bC.34379@clgrps13... I am looking for a knitted or crochet pattern to make a Golliwog, can anyone help me please? Tania. Oh yaaaaaaaaaa Merry Christmas everyone hahaha "The Golliwog (originally spelled Golliwogg) is the least known of the major anti-Black caricatures in the United States. ..." http://www.ferris.edu/news/jimcrow/golliwog/ Strange that they say it is grotesque! I had a lovely golly - much loved and hugged. Perhaps the golly has different meanings for different nationalities? I am in UK. -- Liz Hanson |
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Talking about politically correct "nonsense"..
I used to work in an Infant School (Kindergarten). we were not allowed to teach the children "Baa-Baa BLACK sheep" - it had to be "Baa-Baa GREEN sheep". And they wonder why the youth of today are confused!!!!! -- Kari (in the UK) SpamTrap: I will have "no spam" emailed to me! "Richard Eney" wrote in message ... In article , Katherine wrote: My son had a golliwog which he loved dearly. I think that this has become a case of being a bit too politically correct. It is OK to have stuffed toys with orange faces, green faces, blue faces - in fact, every colour but black. Looking carefully at the style of doll, I think the Golliwog is just a black version of the Raggedy Ann and Andy dolls, or maybe they were red-haired copies of the Golly. As far as 'politically correctness' goes, you should visit New Orleans and see the fine-art black dolls that are made and sold there! I believe at least some of them are made by black artists, and they don't seem to think that there is any problem with representing certain shapes and facial expressions. It's just a doll. =Tamar |
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"Kari" wrote in message ... Talking about politically correct "nonsense".. I used to work in an Infant School (Kindergarten). we were not allowed to teach the children "Baa-Baa BLACK sheep" - it had to be "Baa-Baa GREEN sheep". And they wonder why the youth of today are confused!!!!! -- Kari (in the UK) Maybe it's because the grown-ups of today have a slight problem with the truth. Kari? |
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I was born in the UK way back in the 40's, and I had a Golliwog when I was small
- not sure what happened to it now. We never saw it as anything other than a cuddly doll, but in retrospect, the name could be deemed offensive. I guess we were all a lot more innocent in those days.... Roger. Kari wrote: Liz, I was born in the UK. My parents wouldn't let me have a Golliwog because of the racist innuendo. WE ARE BLACK and originate from Jamaica!!! To me it was the first and (at the time) only doll of my colour. I wanted one so desperately - all my friends had dolls of "their colour", why couldn't I. Mom & Dad never explained racism to me. Looking back - it was their way of bringing me up to be non-racist. it worked - but I never got a Golliwog. By the time I was old enough to realise that there were tokens on the Robertson marmalade jars, dear old Golli was withdrawn. Hey! I wonder if my friends still want one. off to get the pattern.... -- Yarn Forward Your On Line Yarn Store http://www.yarnforward.com |
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Kari, I do hope you make a doll like this for you. I find him very
cute and I believe every child in the world should have a doll that resembles him/her. Having a black doll is no racism, but saying there is something wrong with black dolls, certainly is. On Tue, 16 Dec 2003 05:53:39 -0000, "Kari" wrote: Liz, I was born in the UK. My parents wouldn't let me have a Golliwog because of the racist innuendo. WE ARE BLACK and originate from Jamaica!!! To me it was the first and (at the time) only doll of my colour. I wanted one so desperately - all my friends had dolls of "their colour", why couldn't I. Mom & Dad never explained racism to me. Looking back - it was their way of bringing me up to be non-racist. it worked - but I never got a Golliwog. By the time I was old enough to realise that there were tokens on the Robertson marmalade jars, dear old Golli was withdrawn. Hey! I wonder if my friends still want one. off to get the pattern.... With love from belgium Ria riavdv at pandora dot be |
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