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Advice on finishing in a glass box
Will this be a flat piece of embroidery?
Meredith wild wrote: Hi everyone, I have a piece that is in the ideas stage at the moment and I´m a bit stuck on how to achieve the finish I want. Basically it will be on organza (or some such fabric) which I want to be fixed in a glass (or plastic, just must be clear) box, about halfway up. I really have no idea about how I could neatly do this as I can´t hide anything in such a setup (it should be viewable from ALL sides). Any ideas? Jacinta |
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At this stage, yes. Although it will incorporate stumpwork so it won´t
be "perfectly" flat. But it probably won´t extend for more than two centimeteres on either side of the fabric. Jacinta Meredith wrote: Will this be a flat piece of embroidery? Meredith wild wrote: Hi everyone, I have a piece that is in the ideas stage at the moment and I´m a bit stuck on how to achieve the finish I want. Basically it will be on organza (or some such fabric) which I want to be fixed in a glass (or plastic, just must be clear) box, about halfway up. I really have no idea about how I could neatly do this as I can´t hide anything in such a setup (it should be viewable from ALL sides). Any ideas? Jacinta -- ÐÏࡱá |
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Hmmmmm. . . . . How about getting very fine wooden dowels and gluing the
organza - winding it around the dowels a bit. That way, the ends will be hidden completely. Maybe even a 20-guage wire? (That would be hard). I'd try clear glue, or try wheat paste (wallpaper paste) until you decide how much to use and how clear it gets. Actually, I wanted to wrap a fine wire for raised emb today and used tacky glue and rayon ribbon floss for the wrapping. It turned out beautifully. Though, I discarded the idea and did something different for this particular motif. As I did this, I was wondering about flat silk threads and twisting them together. grin Dianne wild wrote: Hi everyone, I have a piece that is in the ideas stage at the moment and I´m a bit stuck on how to achieve the finish I want. Basically it will be on organza (or some such fabric) which I want to be fixed in a glass (or plastic, just must be clear) box, about halfway up. I really have no idea about how I could neatly do this as I can´t hide anything in such a setup (it should be viewable from ALL sides). Any ideas? Jacinta |
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I am planning on using shadow embroidery on it, as well as several other
things (as I said it is in the ideas stage and getting more and more complicated with every new one ). I´m more worried about how to fix the organza inside a clear box once the embroidery is finished. Can you think of a way I could do this? Jacinta wrote: On Sun, 27 Jul 2003 21:59:43 +0200, wild wrote: Hi everyone, I have a piece that is in the ideas stage at the moment and I´m a bit stuck on how to achieve the finish I want. Basically it will be on organza (or some such fabric) which I want to be fixed in a glass (or plastic, just must be clear) box, about halfway up. I really have no idea about how I could neatly do this as I can´t hide anything in such a setup (it should be viewable from ALL sides). Any ideas? Jacinta You need shadow embroidery, it will work like a charm. Sheena -- ÐÏࡱá |
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If you have two boxes of identical size (let's say 1/2-inch thick by 9 x
10 rectangle) you could glue the organza to the bottom box, then lay the second box and glue on top. If you're talking about either a plexiglass or wood box, you could get yourself a Dremel and groove all four sides and glue the organza into the groove. Anything you do is gonna be a fiddly project grin. Dianne wild wrote: I was considering something like that, but I really wanted it to be virtually no thicker than the fabric..perhaps the wires... oh my skills are just not up to my imagination! Another question, do you know a good way to stiffen organza without putting a thicker backing fabric on it? Using the bondaweb (or whatever its called) might not be enough..... Jacinta Dianne Lewandowski wrote: Hmmmmm. . . . . How about getting very fine wooden dowels and gluing the organza - winding it around the dowels a bit. That way, the ends will be hidden completely. Maybe even a 20-guage wire? (That would be hard). I'd try clear glue, or try wheat paste (wallpaper paste) until you decide how much to use and how clear it gets. Actually, I wanted to wrap a fine wire for raised emb today and used tacky glue and rayon ribbon floss for the wrapping. It turned out beautifully. Though, I discarded the idea and did something different for this particular motif. As I did this, I was wondering about flat silk threads and twisting them together. grin Dianne wild wrote: Hi everyone, I have a piece that is in the ideas stage at the moment and I´m a bit stuck on how to achieve the finish I want. Basically it will be on organza (or some such fabric) which I want to be fixed in a glass (or plastic, just must be clear) box, about halfway up. I really have no idea about how I could neatly do this as I can´t hide anything in such a setup (it should be viewable from ALL sides). Any ideas? Jacinta |
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Hi Jacinta
I have some of my work sealed inside of what is akin to a thermo-pane window, thus it is free floating, for all intensive purposes. Are you looking to suspend your project inside of a clear glass box where all of the edges are exposed? On some of the cross-stitch I have done, I have wrapped the selvedge around a plastic coated heavy wire frame, before completing the cross-stitching around the edges. In other cases, I have folded the selvedge 3 squares outside of the image, cross-stitched it in place, then added a series of strenghthening letter H's around the border. Then this was whipped to the plastic coated heavy wire frame. One piece that I did for my grandmother many eons ago, had no frame of any kind. I took a sheet of glass and glued with cynacrolate resin little standoffs, that look like plastic push pins only without the needle around the perimeter of the glass, in from the edge about 1/4 inch and spaced 2 inches apart. These were used for centering and stretching the piece so that it appeared suspended in the glass using clear polyester/monofilament line. Once I was happy with the work, a drop cynacrolate resin was placed on the top of each peg and a second piece of glass was centered over the first. The glass shop wrapped a film around the pegs and then sealed the unit with silicone. Then they drew the vacuum and injected the gas they put in and sealed their injection area. To hide the pegs, a wood frame was placed around the edge of the glass on both sides. The monofilament was visible, but not detracting. TTUL Gary |
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Framers use clear plastic square rods as spacers between the glass and a
mounted work---they come with an adhesive on one side and could be adhered to the needlework or the glass box using this and using a clear glue for the second joint. They are not as thin as you appear to be looking at---but they are clear and would be easy to work with. Or you could mount your work onto a piece of glass and use the spacers, adhered to the glass box, as stops in front of and behind the glass mount. There's a needlework glue that is being used to mount Hardanger designs by Janice Love onto glass night lights, sun catchers and other items where transparency is required. I haven't used it but many needlework shops carry it. It dried clear. Marjorie wild wrote: I was considering something like that, but I really wanted it to be virtually no thicker than the fabric..perhaps the wires... oh my skills are just not up to my imagination! Another question, do you know a good way to stiffen organza without putting a thicker backing fabric on it? Using the bondaweb (or whatever its called) might not be enough..... Jacinta Dianne Lewandowski wrote: Hmmmmm. . . . . How about getting very fine wooden dowels and gluing the organza - winding it around the dowels a bit. That way, the ends will be hidden completely. Maybe even a 20-guage wire? (That would be hard). I'd try clear glue, or try wheat paste (wallpaper paste) until you decide how much to use and how clear it gets. Actually, I wanted to wrap a fine wire for raised emb today and used tacky glue and rayon ribbon floss for the wrapping. It turned out beautifully. Though, I discarded the idea and did something different for this particular motif. As I did this, I was wondering about flat silk threads and twisting them together. grin Dianne wild wrote: Hi everyone, I have a piece that is in the ideas stage at the moment and I´m a bit stuck on how to achieve the finish I want. Basically it will be on organza (or some such fabric) which I want to be fixed in a glass (or plastic, just must be clear) box, about halfway up. I really have no idea about how I could neatly do this as I can´t hide anything in such a setup (it should be viewable from ALL sides). Any ideas? Jacinta -- ÐÏࡱ |
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On 7/27/03 6:20 PM,"wild" posted:
I am planning on using shadow embroidery on it, as well as several other things (as I said it is in the ideas stage and getting more and more complicated with every new one ). I´m more worried about how to fix the organza inside a clear box once the embroidery is finished. Can you think of a way I could do this? Jacinta You can have a framer do what is called "floating it in glass" - in which case the piece is sandwhiched between 2 panes of glass. Can be displayed, size dependent, on a table easel, or suspended where you can see back and front. When working at the LNS/framers we did some autographed sports jerseys (huge) this way - for a corporate account. And have done several other pieces that way. Just a thought. ellice |
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That would have looked fantastic! What a great finishing idea!
Jacinta Gary V. Deutschmann, Sr. wrote: Hi Jacinta I have some of my work sealed inside of what is akin to a thermo-pane window, thus it is free floating, for all intensive purposes. Are you looking to suspend your project inside of a clear glass box where all of the edges are exposed? On some of the cross-stitch I have done, I have wrapped the selvedge around a plastic coated heavy wire frame, before completing the cross-stitching around the edges. In other cases, I have folded the selvedge 3 squares outside of the image, cross-stitched it in place, then added a series of strenghthening letter H's around the border. Then this was whipped to the plastic coated heavy wire frame. One piece that I did for my grandmother many eons ago, had no frame of any kind. I took a sheet of glass and glued with cynacrolate resin little standoffs, that look like plastic push pins only without the needle around the perimeter of the glass, in from the edge about 1/4 inch and spaced 2 inches apart. These were used for centering and stretching the piece so that it appeared suspended in the glass using clear polyester/monofilament line. Once I was happy with the work, a drop cynacrolate resin was placed on the top of each peg and a second piece of glass was centered over the first. The glass shop wrapped a film around the pegs and then sealed the unit with silicone. Then they drew the vacuum and injected the gas they put in and sealed their injection area. To hide the pegs, a wood frame was placed around the edge of the glass on both sides. The monofilament was visible, but not detracting. TTUL Gary |
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