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Thank Kalera,
That's what I was trying to think of. My memory is a spaghetti strainer anymore. lol -- Debbie (New Mexico) Life is too short "Kalera Stratton" wrote in message ... Paganism isn't a specific religion, it's a category of religions... Wicca is a pagan religion, and so is Druidism, and so are native American and Africa religions, etc. -Kalera http://www.beadwife.com http://www.snipurl.com/kebay JL Paules wrote: I've learned that being Wiccan is not the same thing as being a Pagan. Wiccan is a relatively new religion whereas Paganism has been around since rocks were invented. (Sarah corrected me when I called her a Wiccan.) I find it fascinating so you may talk to me about it any time you'd like. :-) --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.686 / Virus Database: 447 - Release Date: 5/14/2004 |
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Right on.
Diana "Kalera Stratton" wrote in message ... Thanks for a really beautiful post, Kathy. -Kalera http://www.beadwife.com http://www.snipurl.com/kebay Kathy N-V wrote: On Sun, 16 May 2004 16:48:56 -0400, Debbie B wrote (in message . net): That's similar to what I told them. They could have it worse - they could have me. I'm one of those people that TPTB of organized religion fears - a *thinking* Catholic woman with a sense of humor. I've read all the doctrine, and the initial Catholic Church appeals to me - not today's nearly unrecognizable version. (So much of today's church is so far removed from the original form of worship, it's amazing) I also think that God has a great sense of humor, and appreciates it when His creations laugh. I especially love the untarnished expressions of faith done in generations long ago. Mexican retablos (painted metal expressions of thanks for a miracle - said miracle could be anything from a life saving cure to finding a lost earring) appeal to me. I say the Rosary and mean it, and am horrified when people use prayer as a weapon - a prayer that someone be harmed is offensive beyond words. The sameness of the form of worship, the symbolicism of the incense, candles and most aspects of the Mass are comforting to me. Something that has gone essentially unchanged for millenia is amazing, all by itself. Things start to go wrong when Man, management, and money stomp their big clumsy feet into what should be a giving expression of gratitude to God and reverence for all His creations. (BTW, I use the capitalized "God" and "He" as a measure of respect. I believe that the being I call God is so far beyond feeble human understanding that gender and names are meaningless. It's my imperfect way of communicating how I feel) I love the silly part of religion as well. I have Saint Claire statues on all the televisions (she's the patron saint of TV because she had a vision of Mass from miles away, long before anyone dreamt of television), Saint Isadore lives on the modems, and "Our Lady of Extreme Acceleration and Green Traffic Lights" is often mentioned when in a rush. I have milgros in my nicho (little metal body parts dedicated to God in exchange for healing in an altar dedicated to Our Lady of Guadalupe), and my Tantes send me souvenirs from Lourdes to "cure" me. Sure, they're plastic, but they're more expressions of love from the Tantes, and I'd think God understands the sentiment if not the plastic. The one thing I am not is exclusive. As I've studied ancient civilizations, I have found striking similarities in the folktales in widely divergent cultures describe the creation of Earth, the "Noah and the Flood" tale, and many archetypes that some Christians think are the Biblical truth. This leads me to believe that there is some common factor behind all the stories, and I happen to call it God. When we contact beings from other planets, I would be fascinated to know if they also have variations of the same stories -if I were a betting woman, I'd say they do. The more I learn about science, the universe and the complexity and beauty of everything around us, the more I am reassured that there is a Higher Power far beyond anything I could comprehend. All this simply cannot be a chain of lucky coincidences - there's too much evidence to the contrary. My arrogance does not reach the point where I say "my way to God is the only way." It cannot be. Billions of humans on this planet, and likely untold trillions on the inhabited planets in our universe, and being a Catholic is the only correct way to worship? Uh, I can't believe that for a moment. My path is only one of many, and my mission is to make the path as smooth as I can for my fellow travelers. It's that simple and that difficult. Enjoy your golden bowl, and the peace that your altar brings. I hope that your family comes to understand that worship, like love, comes in countless forms and expressions. Peace, Kathy N-V |
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I sympathize... mine is totally shot too. For some reason I keep
thinking it'll get better with time... but it doesn't usually work that way, does it? -Kalera http://www.beadwife.com http://www.snipurl.com/kebay Debbie B wrote: Thank Kalera, That's what I was trying to think of. My memory is a spaghetti strainer anymore. lol |
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Yeah, I introduced mine to the idea slooowly. Luckily, he seems to think
it's "neat", so it's all good. I try not to do any moonlit naked bonfire dancing, though! -Kalera http://www.beadwife.com http://www.snipurl.com/kebay Debbie B wrote: My now husband and I just stay away from any discussions. He will listen tolerantly while I talk a little about it. I try not to overwhelm him or he might get scared. LOL |
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I sympathize... mine is totally shot too. For some reason I keep
thinking it'll get better with time... but it doesn't usually work that way, does it? Does what work what way? ~~ Sooz ------- "Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance ~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html |
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huh?
~Candace~ |
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I don't remember... what do you mean?
-Kalera http://www.beadwife.com http://www.snipurl.com/kebay Dr. Sooz wrote: I sympathize... mine is totally shot too. For some reason I keep thinking it'll get better with time... but it doesn't usually work that way, does it? Does what work what way? ~~ Sooz ------- "Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance ~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html |
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I tried it once but he threatened to have me committed. LOL
-- Debbie (New Mexico) Life is too short "Kalera Stratton" wrote in message ... Yeah, I introduced mine to the idea slooowly. Luckily, he seems to think it's "neat", so it's all good. I try not to do any moonlit naked bonfire dancing, though! -Kalera http://www.beadwife.com http://www.snipurl.com/kebay Debbie B wrote: My now husband and I just stay away from any discussions. He will listen tolerantly while I talk a little about it. I try not to overwhelm him or he might get scared. LOL --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.686 / Virus Database: 447 - Release Date: 5/15/2004 |
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i would have thought the naked bonfire dances would be a selling point.
Diana "Kalera Stratton" wrote in message ... Yeah, I introduced mine to the idea slooowly. Luckily, he seems to think it's "neat", so it's all good. I try not to do any moonlit naked bonfire dancing, though! -Kalera http://www.beadwife.com http://www.snipurl.com/kebay Debbie B wrote: My now husband and I just stay away from any discussions. He will listen tolerantly while I talk a little about it. I try not to overwhelm him or he might get scared. LOL |
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I don't remember... what do you mean?
Who? ~~ Sooz ------- "Those in the cheaper seats clap. The rest of you rattle your jewelry." John Lennon (1940 - 1980) Royal Varieties Performance ~ Dr. Sooz's Bead Links http://airandearth.netfirms.com/soozlinkslist.html |
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