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Old March 3rd 05, 03:51 AM
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So I did some research, and decided to resolve the whole slate of health
issues by losing some more weight and getting more exercise. Now, I

watch
my diet, I get a good deal of exercise, and I am down to 180 lb with a
weight goal of 160 lb. (Actually, the goal is to get my body fat down

to
15%.) My blood pressure is under control, the cholesterol is under

control,
and I am sleeping better. All without drugs. My doctor is back to
scheduling once a year examinations for me. My cost is 90 minutes of
vigorous exercise every other day. It is a very high cost, but it gives

me
my life back. Now, I am back to having energy and getting things done.
Time for exercise is a small price to pay for getting my life back.


Talk to me in two years or more, when you have kept it all off, and not
gained a pound back. I've been there, done the whole routine. Keeping

the
weight off is the hardest part, and if you can do it, good for you. Not
many people can get it off and keep it off. And, the newly converted are
the ones with the shiniest halos.


I have kept 40 pounds off for 4 years. No backsliding what-so-ever. I have
lost an additional 20 pounds over the last 6 months. That puts me down 60
pounds from my max weight at the end of year 2000. I am ready to talk
turkey.


Now we know that walking and gardening and house work are simply not
enough exercise to maintain a reasonable level of fitness.



Beg to differ with you. Power walking is an excellent way to get fit and
stay that way. BUT - you have to do it at least 5 days out of 7, for at
least 2 or more miles a day, and watch the food too. Besides, being
personal about it, I wrecked my knee last year, so it's unlikely I'm going
to be doing much else besides the walking and maybe my exercise bike.


If you are going to
get fit or stay fit and have good levels of energy, you need to exercise
hard enough that you can just pant 4 words at a time in a conversation
(the talk test) for at least 30 minutes every day.


I disagree with you there. While exercising, if you can only pant a few
words, you are working too hard, and leaving yourself open to a heart
attack. A proper talk test is to be able to speak at least a whole

sentence
and be understood.


That is what the American Heart Association taught for years and years. I
followed that advice and got fat. Nor does it sound like it is really
working for you. I am letting you know what did not work for me, and what
does work for me. When, I am out running, I chat and tell jokes - 4 words at
at time. Actually, I wear a heart rate monitor and I know exactly how hard
I am pushing myself. The new research is reflected in the new FDA Food
Guidelines. They call for more exercise and more vigorous exercise. I have
been in corrispondance with researchers at the Mayo Clinic, John Hopkins
Medical Center, and the Cooper Institute. They agree that the AHA exercise
guidelines were too low in duration and intensity. ( But, you must start
slow and work up over a period of months. Train, do not strain!)

To bring this back on topic, if you exercise and get fit, you will be a

much
better knitter. That is my story, and I am sticking to it.


Well hon, I'm not fit and I'm a pretty good knitter.


I am sure that you are a better knitter than I am. A friend just stopped by
to pickup some yarn, and I showed her the new ski socks that I am working
on, and she said that they reminded her of the Russian peasant socks they
had when she was a girl in Siberia. From this lady, "peasant socks" is not
a complement.

What I need to do is LESS knitting and more power walking. Hmmm, maybe

when it warms up a bit.


I have a book of traditional knitting that has pictures of women knitting as
they walk. I looks like a very steep trail so they appear to be getting a
lot of exercise as they knit.

No, I do not have a web album. Maybe one of these days.


Yahoo has a good web album thing. Very easy to set up. I'm sure we'd all
love to see your knitting and whatever other crafts you are into.


You want to see a picture to see if dogwood knitting needles really exist or
if I am just pulling your leg? G

I'm working on a laceweight shawl these days. I hope to finish it in the

next
month or so.

Have a good day.
Shelagh

Aaron


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Old March 3rd 05, 07:30 AM
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
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Aharon , there is a big difference between women and men in the Weight
gaining and loosing `methods`... Nature has Given us women more fat
cells, according to research it has to with our `natural asigned duty
as Child beareres`. I would like to see you after a pregnancy [
gaining fats over nine months takes about same time to loose it
naturaly without dieting,] Dieting while nursing is impossible ...
I think most people nowadays are qute knowledgeable about the need to
stay fit , if they can , and they do it if they can, in their own
possible methods , times , and goals.
and I am sleeping better. All without drugs. My doctor is back to
scheduling once a year examinations for me.

As much as i admire all of this effort you do and the enthousiastic
sharing of it ,,,, This is an international nice ng , you don`t know
every one here personally , you don`t know how everyone here lives.
Some people might hold on to their health with reasons , you have no
clue about. Some live by budgets, some have no easy access to doctors
like you have . Please share your Gains , but please don`t preach
about how We all should live. You also have no clue who and why and
how some people here excercise or don`t excercize.
gorous exercise every other day. It is a very high cost, but it

gives me
my life back. Now, I am back to having energy and getting things done.
Time for exercise is a small price to pay for getting my life back.

there are people here who for some reason can`t excercize at all or
have to do with their own methods ....

To bring this back on topic, if you exercise and get fit, you will be a much
better knitter. That is my story, and I am sticking to it.

I have an aquaintance who has been bed ridden for years, and her
weight is high, But she is one of the best and most Prolific knitters
i know, her lacces are delicate and just Dreamy .......
mirjam

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Old March 3rd 05, 07:30 AM
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Aharon you are invited to visit Haifa , we have more than a 100
Staircase streets ,,,, and to get from one suburb to the next , by
foot you have to go several ups and downs , some times at 60* or 40*
over several metters... Haifa is known for the many Beauty Queens, we
think it is all this mountain climbing !!!
I used to have a friend who lived 90 stairs above my street , used to
call her to put the kettle on and climb those in several minutes ,,,
my son `s flat is 150 metters higher than mine , quite a climb i
assure you ,,,
mirjam

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Old March 3rd 05, 08:23 AM
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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 02:51:40 GMT, wrote:

I have a book of traditional knitting that has pictures of women knitting as
they walk. I looks like a very steep trail so they appear to be getting a
lot of exercise as they knit.


When we were in Zambia visiting my daughter who was a CARE intern at
the time, we saw lots of people walking and knitting. Even very young
girls. They were using all kinds of sticks and thick wires as knitting
needles.
--
Barbara Vaughan

My email address is my first initial followed by my last name at libero dot it.
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Old March 4th 05, 12:27 AM
Shillelagh
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"Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message
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Aharon , there is a big difference between women and men in the Weight
gaining and loosing `methods`... Nature has Given us women more fat
cells, according to research it has to with our `natural asigned duty
as Child beareres`.


Exactly. That's what used to royally **** me off when I was going to Weight
Watchers. I would struggle to lose 1 or 2 lbs a week and ALL the men would
come in and routinely lose 4 to 5 lbs a week - or more.

I would like to see you after a pregnancy [
gaining fats over nine months takes about same time to loose it
naturaly without dieting,] Dieting while nursing is impossible ...


No kidding. Been THERE, and DONE THAT.

I think most people nowadays are quite knowledgeable about the need to
stay fit , if they can , and they do it if they can, in their own
possible methods , times , and goals.


I lost a bunch of weight in 2001, then had a very long plateau. I know all
about plateaus, but this one turned out to be medical. I just couldn't lose
any more weight for the life of me, even tried 500 calories a day (not a
good idea), and tons of extra exercise. Turns out I had an underactive
thyroid. I'm on the medication for it, and STILL can't lose. I guess I got
so discouraged, I did my usual thing and started to eat the wrong things
again. I just couldn't keep on being a rabbit and starving myself for
nothing. It's very frustrating, because the older a woman gets, it seems
the harder it is to lose weight, and it's worse when medical conditions
interfere.

Please share your Gains , but please don`t preach
about how We all should live. You also have no clue who and why and
how some people here exercise or don`t exercize.


As I said in an earlier post, the "newly converted" have the shiniest halos,
and very little idea of what might be involved for other people. You have a
very good grasp of what can be involved for women trying to lose weight.
Shelagh


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Old March 4th 05, 12:38 AM
Shillelagh
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I have kept 40 pounds off for 4 years. No backsliding what-so-ever. I

have
lost an additional 20 pounds over the last 6 months. That puts me down 60
pounds from my max weight at the end of year 2000. I am ready to talk
turkey.


I'm glad for you Aaron. Keep it up.

That is what the American Heart Association taught for years and years.

I
followed that advice and got fat. Nor does it sound like it is really
working for you.


Yow - you are wrong there babe. The only reason it isn't working for me is
because right now - I'm NOT doing it! Heh, talk about assuming. When I
actually did the power walking and limiting my food intake (back in 2001),
it worked well for me - until I reached a horrendous plateau because of a
medical condition. While complaining to the doctor that I hadn't lost any
weight in a long time but was sticking to the food plan, he tested my
thyroid function. It seems I had acquired an "underactive thyroid". Turns
out my mother had it too.

When I can talk myself back into the food plan, I will go back to the power
walking. With my knee there will be no vigorous exercise. I found out when
skiing a couple of weeks ago, that all I can handle is half a day on some
really short runs. This is too bad because I've been skiing in the Canadian
Rockies since the '70's, and am not sure DH & I can do this anymore.

You want to see a picture to see if dogwood knitting needles really exist

or
if I am just pulling your leg? G


I don't think you're pulling my leg. Love to see the needles. We have lots
of dogwood bushes around here - maybe I could get DH to make me some
needles. (smile)
Shelagh


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Old March 4th 05, 07:10 AM
Mirjam Bruck-Cohen
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Good Shelagh i see you and me are on the same mind !!!
mirjam

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Old March 6th 05, 07:02 PM
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Shillelagh wrote:

Talk to me in two years or more, when you have kept it all off, and

not
gained a pound back. I've been there, done the whole routine.

Keeping the
weight off is the hardest part, and if you can do it, good for you.

Not
many people can get it off and keep it off. And, the newly converted

are
the ones with the shiniest halos.


I've only managed this for about a year and a half, but my key was
getting a job that made me stay active. When I had an office job I was
nearly 160 lbs, but after I started working in the outdoors (first in
Fish & Wildlife, now in State Parks), I'm down to 130#. I'm 20-22%
body fat, but would like to hit 18%. Admittedly, the cold weather has
kept me indoors more than I would like the past few months. On a
typical day I walk 4-5 miles while working. During summer, when I'm
running the push mow crew, it can be nearly 10 miles.

I'm going to start training in earnest for my Forest Service Red Card
Pack Test once the snow goes away (3 miles, with 45 lbs, in 45 minutes
or less). Hopefully that'll do the trick for those last few pesky
percents. Another big help was giving up pop (soda, coke, whatever you
call it). Also, Dad's pre-diabetic with high cholesterol, so that was
a wake-up call that I need to make small lifestyle changes now (I'm 23)
so I don't have to take drugs and completely change how I eat and
exercise in 30 years.

-Amanda
http://www.uberpest.com

 




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