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Regarding an RCTY yahoogroup
First, I am compelled to stick up for Melody here, she IS NOT
trying to fix something that ain't broke!!! There's been a THREAD asking for a site for us to post personal photo's on... so that we can get a look-see at one another. Two people offered to design, one offered to open a yahoo album, and Melody RE-offered to do a yahoogroup site. Since the other three didn't seem to do more than offer, Melody jumped in, and I don't think she was wrong to do so! If you look at her post, you'll see that already 5 or 6 ppl want IN. JM2C, Noreen BTW, the 6 x 6 management team was/is considering doing the same thing for the 6 x 6 exchange ONLY, basically to unclog this NG!!! -- STRIP *tease* to email me. |
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Ok, but my basic point on the latest thread about coughing up personal
info is: What guarantee do we have that the delivery method is going to be SECURE? Yahoogroups are great, Yahoogroups are fine, I belong to several. Too many to keep up with actually, so unless something really juicy and related to my interests comes along I probably won't join another. RCTY isn't clogged, but then again I'm on a fairly fat pipe so downloading messages isn't one of those "go eat dinner while it happens" affairs as it may be for others. Firing up a Yahoogroup is NOT the solution for that problem, however, unless you enjoy having to suck down all the crap that Yahoo tacks onto every message, whether that message be read via the website or whether you suck down digests or individual emails. Text-only groups such as RCTY are far nicer to your bandwidth (ie, faster to download over a slowish dialup connection) than any version of a Yahoogroup will be. And yes, Melody/Angelicsong HAS pushed a Yahoogroup, back in June. The basic concensus then seemed to be "what's the point, RCTY *is* a group". She's not currently (that I've seen, but I don't read every single message every day) offering to run a Yahoogroup, but she's asking people to send her information that could, were it to fall into the wrong hands, cause the providers a world of grief. So this time it isn't a Yahoogroup. She wants us to send her personal information so she can post it on a poorly-protected web page. At least with Yahoogroups there is an OPTION to make a list members-only. A webpage with .htaccess/.htpass protection on it is simply a target waiting to be breached by any teenybopper with 20 minutes on his hands. Don't you think, in a wee corner of your mind, that it is odd for a person who posts on RCTY a total of maybe 15 times in 6 months and didn't exist for the group prior to June to be asking you for the information she's asking for? I shouldn't be the only person pointing this out, and I shouldn't be the only person concerned that somebody who is essentially a stranger to the group wants this info. II've been paid for a lot of years to be a goat among sheep so I find it difficult NOT to be a goat even when I'm not being paid. I'd guess after nearly 40 years that I'd just admit I'm a goat and be done with it, but it is more fun to be PAID to be a goat. But hey, do what you want. I'll go back to stressing over my first show this weekend and polishing bazillion hand-made knitting needles when I should be doing laundry and cleaning the kitchen. On Wed, 5 Nov 2003 18:39:58 -0600, Noreen's Knit*che wrote: First, I am compelled to stick up for Melody here, she IS NOT trying to fix something that ain't broke!!! There's been a THREAD asking for a site for us to post personal photo's on... so that we can get a look-see at one another. Two people offered to design, one offered to open a yahoo album, and Melody RE-offered to do a yahoogroup site. Since the other three didn't seem to do more than offer, Melody jumped in, and I don't think she was wrong to do so! If you look at her post, you'll see that already 5 or 6 ppl want IN. JM2C, Noreen BTW, the 6 x 6 management team was/is considering doing the same thing for the 6 x 6 exchange ONLY, basically to unclog this NG!!! |
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"SlinkyToy" wrote in message ... But hey, do what you want. I'll go back to stressing over my first show this weekend and polishing bazillion hand-made knitting needles when I should be doing laundry and cleaning the kitchen. Can I ask about those hand-made knitting needles? What are they made of? Do you make them yourself? I've only used regular standard metal needles, addi turbos and occasionally some Clover bamboos. My instructor at my lace class had these AWESOME ornate handled, dark wood needles -- I was going to ask her about them before she left, but didn't get a chance to. Karen in MN |
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It is fairly easy to make handmade wooden needles by buying wood dowel at a
hobby or lumber shop. Then the ends can be either whittled down with a knife or shaped with a pencil sharpener. Sanding the new needles with sand paper (available in hardware shops) is important. I sand with "100", "180", and "320." Then I polish with extra fine steel wool, then with a bit of canvas or brown paper. For "knots" on the end of SPN, I often use little wooded door pulls, although one bunch that I made as gifts had cedar acorns on the ends. The knots are glued on with carpenters glue. I like to finish my needles with tung oil and then wax them, but I think many of the folks in the group just wax their hand made needles. Just making one pair of needles will likely be more expensive than just buying them, but when you are making needles in several sizes for all the nieces and aunts, the price will go down to like $0.55/pair plus labor. Making your first pair will take all morning, but I made 20 DPN in 1.5 hours the other day. (Those needles are just the right size so that 14 x 20 stitches knitted in Lopi on them will FELT down to 4"x4". Can't buy that size needle!) Home made needles are good for slippery yarns and knitting while you walk because the stitches are less likely to fall off. They are also very good for experimenting with different needle point shapes. But if you are just sitting there knitting, your hand made wooden needles are going to be slower than you addies! The fancy black needles that you instructor had were turned from black walnut. These are no longer being made, but they still show up for sale - often NIP. If you really want some, look on eBay. Recent prices have been on the order of $55. "Karen" wrote in message ... "SlinkyToy" wrote in message ... But hey, do what you want. I'll go back to stressing over my first show this weekend and polishing bazillion hand-made knitting needles when I should be doing laundry and cleaning the kitchen. Can I ask about those hand-made knitting needles? What are they made of? Do you make them yourself? I've only used regular standard metal needles, addi turbos and occasionally some Clover bamboos. My instructor at my lace class had these AWESOME ornate handled, dark wood needles -- I was going to ask her about them before she left, but didn't get a chance to. Karen in MN |
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Oh that sounds FUN to do! Thanks so much for the info, I'm going to have to
try this! Karen in MN "Agres" wrote in message m... It is fairly easy to make handmade wooden needles by buying wood dowel at a hobby or lumber shop. Then the ends can be either whittled down with a knife or shaped with a pencil sharpener. Sanding the new needles with sand paper (available in hardware shops) is important. I sand with "100", "180", and "320." Then I polish with extra fine steel wool, then with a bit of canvas or brown paper. For "knots" on the end of SPN, I often use little wooded door pulls, although one bunch that I made as gifts had cedar acorns on the ends. The knots are glued on with carpenters glue. I like to finish my needles with tung oil and then wax them, but I think many of the folks in the group just wax their hand made needles. Just making one pair of needles will likely be more expensive than just buying them, but when you are making needles in several sizes for all the nieces and aunts, the price will go down to like $0.55/pair plus labor. Making your first pair will take all morning, but I made 20 DPN in 1.5 hours the other day. (Those needles are just the right size so that 14 x 20 stitches knitted in Lopi on them will FELT down to 4"x4". Can't buy that size needle!) Home made needles are good for slippery yarns and knitting while you walk because the stitches are less likely to fall off. They are also very good for experimenting with different needle point shapes. But if you are just sitting there knitting, your hand made wooden needles are going to be slower than you addies! The fancy black needles that you instructor had were turned from black walnut. These are no longer being made, but they still show up for sale - often NIP. If you really want some, look on eBay. Recent prices have been on the order of $55. "Karen" wrote in message ... "SlinkyToy" wrote in message ... But hey, do what you want. I'll go back to stressing over my first show this weekend and polishing bazillion hand-made knitting needles when I should be doing laundry and cleaning the kitchen. Can I ask about those hand-made knitting needles? What are they made of? Do you make them yourself? I've only used regular standard metal needles, addi turbos and occasionally some Clover bamboos. My instructor at my lace class had these AWESOME ornate handled, dark wood needles -- I was going to ask her about them before she left, but didn't get a chance to. Karen in MN |
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Wow, thanks for sharing. This sounds very interesting. I might want to try it. I like the idea of double pointed wooden needles in different lengths that I don't have to sell body parts to be able to afford! Peace, Michele in KY "Agres" wrote in message m... It is fairly easy to make handmade wooden needles by buying wood dowel at a hobby or lumber shop. Then the ends can be either whittled down with a knife or shaped with a pencil sharpener. Sanding the new needles with sand paper (available in hardware shops) is important. I sand with "100", "180", and "320." Then I polish with extra fine steel wool, then with a bit of canvas or brown paper. For "knots" on the end of SPN, I often use little wooded door pulls, although one bunch that I made as gifts had cedar acorns on the ends. The knots are glued on with carpenters glue. I like to finish my needles with tung oil and then wax them, but I think many of the folks in the group just wax their hand made needles. Just making one pair of needles will likely be more expensive than just buying them, but when you are making needles in several sizes for all the nieces and aunts, the price will go down to like $0.55/pair plus labor. Making your first pair will take all morning, but I made 20 DPN in 1.5 hours the other day. (Those needles are just the right size so that 14 x 20 stitches knitted in Lopi on them will FELT down to 4"x4". Can't buy that size needle!) Home made needles are good for slippery yarns and knitting while you walk because the stitches are less likely to fall off. They are also very good for experimenting with different needle point shapes. But if you are just sitting there knitting, your hand made wooden needles are going to be slower than you addies! The fancy black needles that you instructor had were turned from black walnut. These are no longer being made, but they still show up for sale - often NIP. If you really want some, look on eBay. Recent prices have been on the order of $55. "Karen" wrote in message ... "SlinkyToy" wrote in message ... But hey, do what you want. I'll go back to stressing over my first show this weekend and polishing bazillion hand-made knitting needles when I should be doing laundry and cleaning the kitchen. Can I ask about those hand-made knitting needles? What are they made of? Do you make them yourself? I've only used regular standard metal needles, addi turbos and occasionally some Clover bamboos. My instructor at my lace class had these AWESOME ornate handled, dark wood needles -- I was going to ask her about them before she left, but didn't get a chance to. Karen in MN |
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Wooden dowels from the hardware store, pencil sharpener (or sharp
knife), sandpaper. Add beads for straights. Sounds like your lace instructor had some walnut Brittany needles. Discontinued, unfortunately. The birch Brittanies are nice but lack character. On Fri, 7 Nov 2003 09:04:02 -0600, "Karen" wrote: "SlinkyToy" wrote in message .. . But hey, do what you want. I'll go back to stressing over my first show this weekend and polishing bazillion hand-made knitting needles when I should be doing laundry and cleaning the kitchen. Can I ask about those hand-made knitting needles? What are they made of? Do you make them yourself? I've only used regular standard metal needles, addi turbos and occasionally some Clover bamboos. My instructor at my lace class had these AWESOME ornate handled, dark wood needles -- I was going to ask her about them before she left, but didn't get a chance to. Karen in MN |
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I can buy dowel for less than a dollar, and I've got bazillion grades
of sandpaper that I've collected over the years. I use 100, 180, then go straight to 400+ and finish with Briwax. Wonderful stuff, Briwax. On Fri, 07 Nov 2003 16:57:28 GMT, "Agres" wrote: It is fairly easy to make handmade wooden needles by buying wood dowel at a hobby or lumber shop. Then the ends can be either whittled down with a knife or shaped with a pencil sharpener. Sanding the new needles with sand paper (available in hardware shops) is important. I sand with "100", "180", and "320." Then I polish with extra fine steel wool, then with a bit of canvas or brown paper. For "knots" on the end of SPN, I often use little wooded door pulls, although one bunch that I made as gifts had cedar acorns on the ends. The knots are glued on with carpenters glue. I like to finish my needles with tung oil and then wax them, but I think many of the folks in the group just wax their hand made needles. Just making one pair of needles will likely be more expensive than just buying them, but when you are making needles in several sizes for all the nieces and aunts, the price will go down to like $0.55/pair plus labor. Making your first pair will take all morning, but I made 20 DPN in 1.5 hours the other day. (Those needles are just the right size so that 14 x 20 stitches knitted in Lopi on them will FELT down to 4"x4". Can't buy that size needle!) Home made needles are good for slippery yarns and knitting while you walk because the stitches are less likely to fall off. They are also very good for experimenting with different needle point shapes. But if you are just sitting there knitting, your hand made wooden needles are going to be slower than you addies! The fancy black needles that you instructor had were turned from black walnut. These are no longer being made, but they still show up for sale - often NIP. If you really want some, look on eBay. Recent prices have been on the order of $55. "Karen" wrote in message m... "SlinkyToy" wrote in message ... But hey, do what you want. I'll go back to stressing over my first show this weekend and polishing bazillion hand-made knitting needles when I should be doing laundry and cleaning the kitchen. Can I ask about those hand-made knitting needles? What are they made of? Do you make them yourself? I've only used regular standard metal needles, addi turbos and occasionally some Clover bamboos. My instructor at my lace class had these AWESOME ornate handled, dark wood needles -- I was going to ask her about them before she left, but didn't get a chance to. Karen in MN |
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