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Darlene
On May 30, 8:22 pm, enigma wrote:
"Shillelagh" wrote innews "Katherine" wrote in message oups.com... Well, I fly. I figure that I am in more danger from the common cold than TB. But still, he shouldn't have taken that kind of chance, should he? Katherine, I read the article on Canada.com, and apparently this guy knew he had TB and chose to fly anyway. Pretty arrogant and uncaring. he had been told that flying was not a good idea. he was *not* told not to fly. he was told he had a resistant form of TB, but not *how* resistant, until he was already in Italy. while i definately agree that his going to Prague & flying to Canada was a bad thing, i can see why he wanted to get back to the US for treatment too. he wasn't/isn't terribly contagious either. only those immediately surrounding him have any remote chance of picking up the disease. none of the flight crews that were in direct contact with him have tested positive, so it's really remote that another passenger would. lee As a friend of mine commented, the air in a plane is constantly recirculated, so if there is a contagious disease aboard, everyone is exposed to it. When I was a child, I was responsible for a whole ship being put into quarantine when I developed measles, to which I had been exposed in Boston. I guess the laws were stricter then. Katherine |
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Darlene
Katherine wrote in
oups.com: As a friend of mine commented, the air in a plane is constantly recirculated, so if there is a contagious disease aboard, everyone is exposed to it. When I was a child, I was responsible for a whole ship being put into quarantine when I developed measles, to which I had been exposed in Boston. I guess the laws were stricter then. no, measles is a lot more contagious than TB. it's also more dangerous, especially to adults. no one knows why i test positive for TB. i've never had it or been actually exposed. my mom tests positive because she was a nurse & was exposed while working in the hospital. my positive test can't be explained by mom's exposure though. i had to get lung scans done at the hospital after the test came back positive. this was rather bizarre, as the hospital doesn't want TB patients wandering around... so i had to go to the hospital entry at the time of my appointment & wait outside, away from anyone, until the radiology nurse came to get me. i was then taken to an isolation waiting room, which has no reading material (because if i was positive they'd have to destroy it). but yeah, measles, mumps & rubella are pretty dangerous to adults and are still quarantined. lee |
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Darlene
"enigma" wrote in message . .. he had been told that flying was not a good idea. he was *not* told not to fly. he was told he had a resistant form of TB, but not *how* resistant, until he was already in Italy. while i definately agree that his going to Prague & flying to Canada was a bad thing, i can see why he wanted to get back to the US for treatment too. He specifically flew to Canada to avoid entering the U.S. by air. He planned or did rent a car intending to drive to the U.S. I'd have to go back to the article to find out if he was stopped at the border, and how they found out about him. he wasn't/isn't terribly contagious either. only those immediately surrounding him have any remote chance of picking up the disease. none of the flight crews that were in direct contact with him have tested positive, so it's really remote that another passenger would. lee Hmmmm - how good would you have felt having him sit beside you? I stand by my comment that he was arrogant and uncaring, and sure - ignorant too. Shelagh |
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Darlene
On May 31, 7:40 am, enigma wrote:
Katherine wrote groups.com: As a friend of mine commented, the air in a plane is constantly recirculated, so if there is a contagious disease aboard, everyone is exposed to it. When I was a child, I was responsible for a whole ship being put into quarantine when I developed measles, to which I had been exposed in Boston. I guess the laws were stricter then. no, measles is a lot more contagious than TB. it's also more dangerous, especially to adults. no one knows why i test positive for TB. i've never had it or been actually exposed. my mom tests positive because she was a nurse & was exposed while working in the hospital. my positive test can't be explained by mom's exposure though. i had to get lung scans done at the hospital after the test came back positive. this was rather bizarre, as the hospital doesn't want TB patients wandering around... so i had to go to the hospital entry at the time of my appointment & wait outside, away from anyone, until the radiology nurse came to get me. i was then taken to an isolation waiting room, which has no reading material (because if i was positive they'd have to destroy it). but yeah, measles, mumps & rubella are pretty dangerous to adults and are still quarantined. lee Thanks, Lee. Katherine |
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Darlene
Hi Lee: When my sons were very little, they had all the regular
childhood immunizations and tests. My oldest son had quite a reaction to the TB skin test and upon further testing was discovered to have some weird kind of allergic reaction to the horse serum used in the TB tests! (He has never had or been exposed to TB). Turns out their grandfather also had the same reaction to the TB skin tests....the allergy looks like a big positive result- makes huge *bullseye* welts on their arms where the test was administered and my son also had red welty streaks going down his arm. Marie and the cats On May 31, 4:40 am, enigma wrote: Katherine wrote groups.com: As a friend of mine commented, the air in a plane is constantly recirculated, so if there is a contagious disease aboard, everyone is exposed to it. When I was a child, I was responsible for a whole ship being put into quarantine when I developed measles, to which I had been exposed in Boston. I guess the laws were stricter then. no, measles is a lot more contagious than TB. it's also more dangerous, especially to adults. no one knows why i test positive for TB. i've never had it or been actually exposed. my mom tests positive because she was a nurse & was exposed while working in the hospital. my positive test can't be explained by mom's exposure though. i had to get lung scans done at the hospital after the test came back positive. this was rather bizarre, as the hospital doesn't want TB patients wandering around... so i had to go to the hospital entry at the time of my appointment & wait outside, away from anyone, until the radiology nurse came to get me. i was then taken to an isolation waiting room, which has no reading material (because if i was positive they'd have to destroy it). but yeah, measles, mumps & rubella are pretty dangerous to adults and are still quarantined. lee |
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Darlene
"Shillelagh" wrote in message ... "enigma" wrote in message . .. he had been told that flying was not a good idea. he was *not* told not to fly. he was told he had a resistant form of TB, but not *how* resistant, until he was already in Italy. while i definately agree that his going to Prague & flying to Canada was a bad thing, i can see why he wanted to get back to the US for treatment too. Further to this story - here's a couple of quotes from one article I read (Byline: Helen Braswell, Canadian Press) "While in Rome the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, located them and told him he had XDR-TB and should not take any commercial flights. CDC officials began trying to arrange for his safe return to the U.S. but the couple abruptly left Rome, flying to Prague. There they boarded the flight for Montreal. The man told the Atlanta newspaper he deliberately flew to Canada to try to sneak back into the U.S. to evade a U.S. no-fly order. " |
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Darlene
On May 31, 3:55 pm, "Shillelagh" wrote:
"Shillelagh" wrote in message ... "enigma" wrote in message ... he had been told that flying was not a good idea. he was *not* told not to fly. he was told he had a resistant form of TB, but not *how* resistant, until he was already in Italy. while i definately agree that his going to Prague & flying to Canada was a bad thing, i can see why he wanted to get back to the US for treatment too. Further to this story - here's a couple of quotes from one article I read (Byline: Helen Braswell, Canadian Press) "While in Rome the U.S. Centers for Disease Control, located them and told him he had XDR-TB and should not take any commercial flights. CDC officials began trying to arrange for his safe return to the U.S. but the couple abruptly left Rome, flying to Prague. There they boarded the flight for Montreal. The man told the Atlanta newspaper he deliberately flew to Canada to try to sneak back into the U.S. to evade a U.S. no-fly order. " That was what disturbed me, too. Higs, Katherine |
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"Katherine" wrote in message ups.com... The man told the Atlanta newspaper he deliberately flew to Canada to try to sneak back into the U.S. to evade a U.S. no-fly order. " That was what disturbed me, too. Higs, Katherine Well, now he's apologizing left,right and centre for his stupid actions. And get a load of this info ....... -------------------------- "The Homeland Security Department is investigating how Mr. Speaker was allowed back into the U.S. on May 24, after he flew to Canada to avoid being stopped by U.S. health officials. Along the border crossing at Champlain, N.Y., an inspector ran Mr. Speaker's passport through a computer, and a warning - including instructions to hold the traveller, don a protective mask in dealing with him, and telephone health authorities - popped up, officials said. About a minute later, Mr. Speaker was instead cleared to continue on his journey, according to officials familiar with the records. The inspector has been removed from border duty." ----------------------------------------- And the beat goes on. Funny how the American politicians like to criticize Canadian Border inspectors. Seems there's something to criticize at home too. Shelagh |
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TB scare
On Sat, 2 Jun 2007 15:23:43 -0500, "Shillelagh" wrote:
Well, now he's apologizing left,right and centre for his stupid actions. And get a load of this info ....... -------------------------- "The Homeland Security Department is investigating how Mr. Speaker was allowed back into the U.S. on May 24, after he flew to Canada to avoid being stopped by U.S. health officials. Along the border crossing at Champlain, N.Y., an inspector ran Mr. Speaker's passport through a computer, and a warning - including instructions to hold the traveller, don a protective mask in dealing with him, and telephone health authorities - popped up, officials said. About a minute later, Mr. Speaker was instead cleared to continue on his journey, according to officials familiar with the records. The inspector has been removed from border duty." ----------------------------------------- And the beat goes on. Funny how the American politicians like to criticize Canadian Border inspectors. Seems there's something to criticize at home too. Shelagh What I heard on the radio this morning was that the inspector made a judgement call that Speaker "looked healthy" so allowed him to proceed. The comment was that more training is definitely needed! Alison |
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TB scare
"Alison" wrote in message ... What I heard on the radio this morning was that the inspector made a judgement call that Speaker "looked healthy" so allowed him to proceed. The comment was that more training is definitely needed! Alison Amen to that! ;) Shelagh |
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