"Handmade, US Lampwork"????

Oh, yes yes yes! FAB

--
Kandice Seeber
Air & Earth Designs
http://www.lampwork.net

Yes, in fact at least one of the two artists we saw has work in 1000 glass
beads! running to find book OK, page 274 and 275... Akihiro and Yasuhiro
Ohkama... weren't they there? And then the guy next to them, I don't
remember his name but he was SO nice and his work was incredible! He was
from Japan too.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


Kandice Seeber wrote:
I agree - at the Gathering Kalera and I saw some flat out amazing
Japanese
lampwork artists. I almost cried when I saw one bead that I could not
afford but really really wanted. The styles are completely different from
anything else I have seen. Michael Barley's styles can me somewhat
similar,
but he's the only one I have seen that is anything even close. Aren't
there
a couple of examples in 1000 Beads?

Tektites are compatible with boro... moldavite I am not familiar with.
Obsidian is a glass, but I'm not sure of the COE... hmmmm...

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay

Christina Peterson wrote:
Tektites? And what would moldavite do? Would obsidian melt into a glass?
What other naturally occurring glass can I think of. Or how about part of a
chunk of beach glass.

Tina


"Kalera Stratton" wrote in message
...

Yes. EXACTLY!

-Kalera (who admits to poking around the house to see WHAT ELSE might do
something cool when you put it on molten glass...)

http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


Kathy N-V wrote:


And no one wonders why I say that these guys will do any fool thing
to see what happens when you touch it with hot glass.


--------A Cautionary Tale About Lampworkers-----------

"Oh Look - a big pile of cat fur. Wonder if it will add texture and
add to my half finished bead of EDP? It's only about a thousand
degrees, and the fur should look great. Or, I could just roll the
cat in baking soda and then use the fur! kewl."

Cat runs screaming from the room at the speed of light.

"Wow! Look at this way cool effect I got from the cat fur. Here
kitty, kitty. C'mon kitty, c'mon. [Kitty has gone on a long term
vacation]"

"Hmm, guess I'd better collect the cat fur that's stuck to all my
dry-clean-only clothes. And I don't have any baking soda left. I
wonder what instant decaf will do. It might make brown frit - and I
can call it a "Java Bead" - whooo!"

[Later, when posting bead's photos onto eBay] "Hmm. I think I'd
better call it a proprietary method. I'm not gonna say anything
about the cat fur here. But wait until I tell them over on Wet
Canvas! Or. Maybe. Not...It can be my own secret. Heh, heh, heh."

----------------------------------------------------

Kathy N-V

For a split second, I got all excited, thinking I could use Tylenol to
do something cool with glas... then I read the rest of the post. Oh well.

I'm sorry to hear about your fall, Kathy... I thought you were on strict
orders not to do that! {{{{{{{{{Kathy}}}}}}}}}

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


Kathy N-V wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 11:14:38 -0400, Kandice Seeber wrote
(in message ):


HAHAHAHAHA! OMG, Kathy, what were you on when writing this post??



Tylenol! Really - I took a bad fall last night and was trying to
distract myself from the pain. It was fun, and an exercise in seeing
how far I could go in imagining creating an art form I've never even
seen, and making an entertaining story as well.

I'm glad I made you guys laugh - I think I'm evolving in my writing,
and you guys are my test audience. :-)

Kathy N-V

P.S.: Because I know you guys are going to ask: I was simply
standing there and my right leg gave out on me. As you may know, my
left leg doesn't support me at all, and I use it as a rudder more
than anything. Unfortunately, one leg slid one way, and the other
slid another way, and I got a Power Wedgie (tm)

I'm doing a very good job hiding the pain right now, because Bob has
an awards dinner tonight, and if he knew I was really hurting, he'd
want to stay home with me. Still, there's no way I'll make it to the
dinner without the friggin' wheelchair. Wish me luck.

Dammit, Kathy, if you weren't already in so much pain, I'd have to smack you
for hiding your pain from Bob.
That is the most contradicting thing I've ever seen you type--contrary to
YOU, that is.

I hope your leg settles down and behaves from now on.

--
~Candace~

Orphan Beads ~low cost and bartering for the financially challenged beader~
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Princess Auctions ~please see for most current updates and auction
information~
http://snipurl.com/8s8o

"Kathy N-V" wrote in message
. giganews.com...
On Sat, 11 Sep 2004 11:14:38 -0400, Kandice Seeber wrote
(in message ):

HAHAHAHAHA! OMG, Kathy, what were you on when writing this post??


Tylenol! Really - I took a bad fall last night and was trying to
distract myself from the pain. It was fun, and an exercise in seeing
how far I could go in imagining creating an art form I've never even
seen, and making an entertaining story as well.

I'm glad I made you guys laugh - I think I'm evolving in my writing,
and you guys are my test audience. :-)

Kathy N-V

P.S.: Because I know you guys are going to ask: I was simply
standing there and my right leg gave out on me. As you may know, my
left leg doesn't support me at all, and I use it as a rudder more
than anything. Unfortunately, one leg slid one way, and the other
slid another way, and I got a Power Wedgie (tm)

I'm doing a very good job hiding the pain right now, because Bob has
an awards dinner tonight, and if he knew I was really hurting, he'd
want to stay home with me. Still, there's no way I'll make it to the
dinner without the friggin' wheelchair. Wish me luck.

In article , Kalera Stratton
writes:

I've never seen the Japanese production lampwork,

General Bead used to carry some (may still, but I didn't see it the last time I
was there). The ones I liked had foil (silver) pieces semi-wrapped around a
core, then multi-colored frit on top of the foil, then encased with a pale
transparent color.

I also got a few somewhere else (too few, but all they had) that were silver
and black, that looked really neat. Like maybe a black core then silver foil
then black fit of various sizes on top of the foil? Semi-matte. Looked great
with some facetted onyx and Bali silver....
Kaytee
"Simplexities" on
www.eclecticbeadery.com

Thanks for the links.

Tina


"Su/Cutworks" wrote in message
...
Kalera wrote:

Yes, in fact at least one of the two artists we saw has work in 1000
glass beads! running to find book OK, page 274 and 275... Akihiro and
Yasuhiro Ohkama... weren't they there?

I did a search on lampwork + japan and got these:
http://www.cup.com/tonbo/index.html (the site is in Japanese but you can
click on the links and get some really gorgeous bead pictures)
http://homepage3.nifty.com/bead/ (some gorgeous snails!!!)
http://www.s-project.ne.jp/risingsun...u/syohin.cgi?1 (I wanted
to
click on the BUY button for each of these but I figured they would crack
my
credit card!!)
http://homepage2.nifty.com/card/ (I dunno, but even if it's just links to
business cards, it's a cool page)
http://www2s.biglobe.ne.jp/~gonmama/...tml/tombo.html (worth clicking
anything that looks like a link)
http://www2.nsknet.or.jp/~gure/ (offers an English Page via babelfish but
it's not too successful with the links, stick with the original Japanese
pages)

-Su

Moldavite is a glass originating in space, and found by the Moldau river in
Czech.. Green and very corroded looking.

Tina


"Kalera Stratton" wrote in message
...
Tektites are compatible with boro... moldavite I am not familiar with.
Obsidian is a glass, but I'm not sure of the COE... hmmmm...

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay

Christina Peterson wrote:
Tektites? And what would moldavite do? Would obsidian melt into a
glass?
What other naturally occurring glass can I think of. Or how about part
of a
chunk of beach glass.

Tina


"Kalera Stratton" wrote in message
...

Yes. EXACTLY!

-Kalera (who admits to poking around the house to see WHAT ELSE might do
something cool when you put it on molten glass...)

http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay


Kathy N-V wrote:


And no one wonders why I say that these guys will do any fool thing
to see what happens when you touch it with hot glass.


--------A Cautionary Tale About Lampworkers-----------

"Oh Look - a big pile of cat fur. Wonder if it will add texture and
add to my half finished bead of EDP? It's only about a thousand
degrees, and the fur should look great. Or, I could just roll the
cat in baking soda and then use the fur! kewl."

Cat runs screaming from the room at the speed of light.

"Wow! Look at this way cool effect I got from the cat fur. Here
kitty, kitty. C'mon kitty, c'mon. [Kitty has gone on a long term
vacation]"

"Hmm, guess I'd better collect the cat fur that's stuck to all my
dry-clean-only clothes. And I don't have any baking soda left. I
wonder what instant decaf will do. It might make brown frit - and I
can call it a "Java Bead" - whooo!"

[Later, when posting bead's photos onto eBay] "Hmm. I think I'd
better call it a proprietary method. I'm not gonna say anything
about the cat fur here. But wait until I tell them over on Wet
Canvas! Or. Maybe. Not...It can be my own secret. Heh, heh, heh."

----------------------------------------------------

Kathy N-V

Tina wrote:

Thanks for the links.

It was a hoot going through them, each time I clicked on anything that
looked like a link I never knew if it was going to be beads, anime', or
something dubious but what the hey, life's always an adventure!

There are some stupendous artists out there, not only in Japan, I might add.
Anyone who thinks it's just some cute little crafty thing only needs to see
what's being done by people on this group.

-Su

WOW! When I sent my original message I had no idea what a thorough response
I'd receive! I run a full-time, hectic, non-jewelry-related business, so
making jewelry is just a hobby for me. I checked back this morning
thinking, "Well, let me just see whether anyone has replied to my Friday
post."

What can I say? I was totally overwhelmed. Thank you all for your very,
very informative replies. I am humbled and in awe of the amount of
knowledge that I've stumbled upon in this newsgroup. I will definitely hang
out here as I try to learn more.

I found the several example Web sites that you recommended very
helpful--though I still have not had time to time to visit very one. I also
especially appreciate the suggestion to ask about custom work. I never
would have thought of that. And the info about the various bead groups
helps, too--I've actually seen WC mentioned in some auctions. I thought
that it was a reference to the type of glass that the artist was using.
OOPS!

The comparisons of Indian lampwork, Chinese lampwork, were very informative.
I looked through my beads after I read them, and I think that I've actually
purchased some Indian lampwork beads. I can see that white stuff that you
talked about around the holes. However, these beads were very inexpensive
and were sold to me as "Indian glass beads" so I don't feel that the seller
in anyway misrepresented them. The are actually very pretty, though after
reading your posts I now understand that they are probably more fragile than
I'd realized.

I also found your candor about pricing very helpful. Let's face it--as an
uneducated buyer, other than buying fake hand-made lampwork, the thing that
gives me the most hesitation when it comes to making a purchase is price.
It's not so much an issue of getting a deal--though a deal is always nice.
It's that I don't want to find out that I've paid twice as much as I should
have based on the complexity and quality of the beads.

So many, many other things that you said have been helpful to me. I wish
that I could comment on all of them right now. But the truth is that I want
to get back to reading and re-reading your replies and visiting your Web
sites. So...I'll just say thanks to this entire group for the generous
amount of time that you all clearly spent replying to my post. I can see
that I have much more to learn than I realized! But I can also see that
I've come to the right place!!

In fact, I think I'll get back to reading right now. Thank you all!!!


"Peggy" wrote in message
...
I recently started to make my own hand-made jewelry, and am currently doing
my own wirework and metal clay. I have only purchased lampwork beads
twice: The first set I love. The second set were definitely flawed (there
were cracks where the artist removed the mandrel).

How can I learn to tell the difference between genuine hand-crafted
lampwork beads and cheap imported beads, especially when the seller says
that the beads are handmade? I like lampwork, but I really have no
interest in learning how to make my own lampwork beads. (I've already got
enough to learn about metal!)

I asked this question at a recent bead show, and someone suggested that I
look closely at the beads before purchasing them. This is a good idea if
you can see the beads before you buy, but it won't help me because I live
in the country, about an hour-and-a-half drive from the nearest city and
beadshop. The reality is that I have to purchase on-line. So I have to
look at pictures and Web sites to make a determination. What should I
look for?

Thanks in advance for your help!

P.S. I just started reading this newsgroup today, so please excuse me if
this question has already been asked and answered in this group.


"Dr. Sooz" wrote in message
...
LOL! Look at this one! She's billing firepolished as Swarovski, too.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...0&item=4924764
774&tc=photo

Whoa, that's fraud.
~~
Sooz
To live a creative life, we must lose our fear of being wrong. ~~Joseph
Chilton
Pearce

Oooh, that sounds pretty! The Japanese glass is perfect for working with
foil or even leaf, because of the lower melting temperature.

-Kalera
http://www.beadwife.com
http://www.snipurl.com/kebay

Kaytee wrote:
In article , Kalera Stratton
writes:


I've never seen the Japanese production lampwork,


General Bead used to carry some (may still, but I didn't see it the last time I
was there). The ones I liked had foil (silver) pieces semi-wrapped around a
core, then multi-colored frit on top of the foil, then encased with a pale
transparent color.

I also got a few somewhere else (too few, but all they had) that were silver
and black, that looked really neat. Like maybe a black core then silver foil
then black fit of various sizes on top of the foil? Semi-matte. Looked great
with some facetted onyx and Bali silver....
Kaytee
"Simplexities" on
www.eclecticbeadery.com