Soldering a silver braid necklace?

Peter W.. Rowe, wrote:

However, how about this idea? Insteadof running the chain fully
through the finger ring, fix the ring to the chain by tying the
chain in a "turks head" knot. I think that's how it's called.
suspend the chain, and let the hanging end loop go through the
finger ring. Take that end, open it out a bit, and pass the other
end, from which you hung it, through the loop. Pull it through,
and you'll have the ring nicely suspended from the chain. Fully
secure while you wear it, it cannot come off.

Either I don't understand how this this "turks head" knot works, or you
don't understand topology. Unlike cord, a braided chain cannot be pulled
tight without damage. The ring can easily come off the chain while the
chain is round the neck as it has only to go slack a little so that
the loop passes over the ring, and off it comes.
Tell me I'm wrong.

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Regards, Gary Wooding
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On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:37:10 -0700, in àõ Wooding wrote:

Either I don't understand how this this "turks head" knot works, or you
don't understand topology. Unlike cord, a braided chain cannot be pulled
tight without damage. The ring can easily come off the chain while the
chain is round the neck as it has only to go slack a little so that
the loop passes over the ring, and off it comes.
Tell me I'm wrong.

You're correct, Gary. But I'd bet that so long as gravity is even marginally active on
the ring, it would not lift far enough for the loop which starts out running just around
the chain's doubled strands, to pull far enough through the ring to allow enough slack
to get it back over the ring. The ring would have to lift up a little bit to do that,
and gravity would tend to keep it in place.

This DOES, of course, depend a LOT on the type of chain. If this is a somewhat stiff
type of chain that won't curve tightly, then it's not a good idea at all. I'm guessing,
though, more like a typical rope chain, or commercial foxtail types, which while a
little bit stiff, still will form a tight enough curve, and are limp enough, for the
ring to drop down a bit as the knot snugs up slightly. If this is wrong, then it's a
lousy idea indeed.

Peter

On Thu, 21 Apr 2005 07:43:47 -0700, Peter W.. Rowe, wrote
(in article ):

You're correct, Gary. But I'd bet that so long as gravity is even
marginally active on the ring, it would not lift far enough for the loop
which starts out running just around the chain's doubled strands, to pull
far enough through the ring to allow enough slack to get it back over the
ring. The ring would have to lift up a little bit to do that, and gravity
would tend to keep it in place.

I'm the OP.

The ring does easily come off the chain, mostly when not standing/sitting. I
frequently wake up with it lying next to me, or after yoga (inverted poses,
y'know). It's not the perfect solution.

I've added a crimp ring to hold the chain together, which seems to help.
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ask a question here if I hadn't done that already.

DaveC

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