OT Halloween Horror Nights Rant

No, I have not recieved anything of the sort. I wonder why you were singled
out?

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"Royce" wrote in message
...
Hey everyone, here's a copy of a response to this thread that was sent to
me
privately. Did any of you who agreed with Nurse get this also?

Royce
A day hemmed in prayer is less likely to unravel.


----- Original Message -----
From: "blau"
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
To: "Royce"
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 6:21 PM
Subject: OT Halloween Horror Nights Rant


How ridiculous can you get! Halloween is nearly upon us and has become
the most celebrated holiday in the U.S. What ever it takes to promote
it and the fun things that go on are okay with us.
Halloween is my kind of party. I collect all Halloween materials and
make all kinds of Halloween and Wiccan quilts.
Don't bug us about our times and we won't bug the silly xians who put
animals and people out on their lawns.

Royce wrote:
I agree with you, Nurse. Fight it & call the news media, (papers & TV
stations).





"Nurse Ratched" wrote in message
...
Does anyone else live near a Universal Studios attraction?

I do, and they've been running ads for their Halloween Horror Nights
event.
The ad shows a maniacal-looking guy ("The Director") setting up camera
shots of
a terrified man in a bathtub full of water, who is then electrocuted
(you
see a
hand throwing a big switch and hear a scream). Where I come from, the
theme of
this commercial is clearly "the making of a snuff film". Anyone else
see
it
that way?

I've just finished complaining to Universal and to the TV station, and
am
debating about how best to make my objections more public. I'm thinking
about
complaining to the local vice cops, since snuff films are illegal.

Nurse Ratched (remove "cuckoo" from address to reply)
We'll all get back to normal if we put our nation first,
But the trouble with "normal" is, it always gets worse. ~Bruce Cockburn

I live near Universal. The commercials give me the creeps, but I am an
admitted wimp. I can't even imagine wanting to go to that place near
Halloween. Ick.

Good luck with getting any response on the commercials being objectionable.
I imagine Universal is given a wide berth on stuff like this, since they
bring in so much money for the local economy.

Jennifer in Florida

"Nurse Ratched" wrote in message
...
Does anyone else live near a Universal Studios attraction?

I do, and they've been running ads for their Halloween Horror Nights
event.
The ad shows a maniacal-looking guy ("The Director") setting up camera
shots of
a terrified man in a bathtub full of water, who is then electrocuted (you
see a
hand throwing a big switch and hear a scream). Where I come from, the
theme of
this commercial is clearly "the making of a snuff film". Anyone else see
it
that way?

I've just finished complaining to Universal and to the TV station, and am
debating about how best to make my objections more public. I'm thinking
about
complaining to the local vice cops, since snuff films are illegal.

Nurse Ratched (remove "cuckoo" from address to reply)
We'll all get back to normal if we put our nation first,
But the trouble with "normal" is, it always gets worse. ~Bruce Cockburn

Royce,

I did a google in groups and found that blueberry has posted to, and
seems to be a troll in, a number of newsgroups. S/he has trolled at the
weigh****chers group, many alt.religion groups, several pagan groups,
and now here.

I don't know who the "us" that blueberry person was referring to, but if
s/he meant Wiccans, I'd like explain a little. Halloween, or Samhain, is
one of the primary high holy days for Wiccans. It is the time of year to
honor, appreciate and remember the other side of the wheel of life.

Many other religions also celebrate some sort of a day where you honor
your beloved dead. What we (Wiccans) do *not* do is advocate helping
anyone to join the dead in any untimely manner the way the ads Nurse
Ratched mentioned seem to do.

Unfortunately, Samhain has gone the way of the Christians' Christmas --
way too commercial and the original religious meanings are all jumbled
up with the perceptions of people who do not understand nor practice the
original way of remembering the holiday. Not to be too disrespectful,
but imagine some day in the future when Ramadan is turned into a
weight-loss festival.

Sorry that this has sort of turned into another rant. I guess my buttons
got pushed on this one. I agree with Nurse and think this sort of horror
needs to be fought by all life affirming people.

--
Anne in CA
"Don't miss the diamonds along the way; every road has led us here
today." -- Sheryl Crow
http://home.covad.net/~arudolph/annes.htm

Royce wrote:

Hey everyone, here's a copy of a response to this thread that was sent to me
privately. Did any of you who agreed with Nurse get this also?

Royce
A day hemmed in prayer is less likely to unravel.


----- Original Message -----
From: "blau"
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
To: "Royce"
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 6:21 PM
Subject: OT Halloween Horror Nights Rant



How ridiculous can you get! Halloween is nearly upon us and has become
the most celebrated holiday in the U.S. What ever it takes to promote
it and the fun things that go on are okay with us.
Halloween is my kind of party. I collect all Halloween materials and
make all kinds of Halloween and Wiccan quilts.
Don't bug us about our times and we won't bug the silly xians who put
animals and people out on their lawns.

Royce wrote:

I agree with you, Nurse. Fight it & call the news media, (papers & TV
stations).





"Nurse Ratched" wrote in message
...

Does anyone else live near a Universal Studios attraction?

I do, and they've been running ads for their Halloween Horror Nights

event.

The ad shows a maniacal-looking guy ("The Director") setting up camera

shots of

a terrified man in a bathtub full of water, who is then electrocuted (you

see a

hand throwing a big switch and hear a scream). Where I come from, the

theme of

this commercial is clearly "the making of a snuff film". Anyone else see

it

that way?

I've just finished complaining to Universal and to the TV station, and am
debating about how best to make my objections more public. I'm thinking

about

complaining to the local vice cops, since snuff films are illegal.

Nurse Ratched (remove "cuckoo" from address to reply)
We'll all get back to normal if we put our nation first,
But the trouble with "normal" is, it always gets worse. ~Bruce Cockburn

nor did i.
i dont classify 'electrocution' as a fun thing or amusing in any way.
geeeeeez.
good question, wendy, why only royce was singled out?
i hope you didnt reply to her? it? its a worry.
uh oh, hang on, i just went and looked at the return addy on that email
royce got. its from dslextreme. last year i was getting heaps from that isp,
each one had a virus attached somehow. just delete any you get, do not reply
else shows that its a real addy.
i'd also suggest despamming your addy on here asap if not before, royce.
sounds like that email was just a tester to see if it was a real email addy.
jeanne

"frood" wrote...
| No, I have not recieved anything of the sort. I wonder why you were
singled
| out?
|
| --
| Wendy
| http://griffinsflight.com/Quilting/quilt1.htm
| De-Fang email address to reply

| "Royce" wrote...
| Hey everyone, here's a copy of a response to this thread that was sent
to me privately. Did any of you who agreed with Nurse get this also?
|
| Royce
| A day hemmed in prayer is less likely to unravel.
|
|
| ----- Original Message -----
| From: "blau"
| Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
| To: "Royce"
| Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 6:21 PM
| Subject: OT Halloween Horror Nights Rant
|
|
| How ridiculous can you get! Halloween is nearly upon us and has
become
| the most celebrated holiday in the U.S. What ever it takes to promote
| it and the fun things that go on are okay with us.
| Halloween is my kind of party. I collect all Halloween materials and
| make all kinds of Halloween and Wiccan quilts.
| Don't bug us about our times and we won't bug the silly xians who put
| animals and people out on their lawns.
|
| Royce wrote:
| I agree with you, Nurse. Fight it & call the news media, (papers &
TV
| stations).
|
|
|
|
|
| "Nurse Ratched" wrote in message
| ...
| Does anyone else live near a Universal Studios attraction?
|
| I do, and they've been running ads for their Halloween Horror Nights
| event.
| The ad shows a maniacal-looking guy ("The Director") setting up camera
| shots of
| a terrified man in a bathtub full of water, who is then electrocuted
| (you
| see a
| hand throwing a big switch and hear a scream). Where I come from, the
| theme of
| this commercial is clearly "the making of a snuff film". Anyone else
| see
| it
| that way?
|
| I've just finished complaining to Universal and to the TV station, and
| am
| debating about how best to make my objections more public. I'm
thinking
| about
| complaining to the local vice cops, since snuff films are illegal.
|
| Nurse Ratched (remove "cuckoo" from address to reply)
| We'll all get back to normal if we put our nation first,
| But the trouble with "normal" is, it always gets worse. ~Bruce
Cockburn
|
|
|
|

u'r probably right about the money they bring in.
shame no one thinks about the money it costs society from the copy cat'rs
who 'off' themselves just 'playing' with the suggestion they are giving out.
it is totally disgusting they are allowed to get away with that.
jeanne

"JS" wrote...
| I live near Universal. The commercials give me the creeps, but I am an
| admitted wimp. I can't even imagine wanting to go to that place near
| Halloween. Ick.
| Good luck with getting any response on the commercials being
objectionable.
| I imagine Universal is given a wide berth on stuff like this, since they
| bring in so much money for the local economy.
|
| Jennifer in Florida


| "Nurse Ratched" wrote...
| Does anyone else live near a Universal Studios attraction?
|
| I do, and they've been running ads for their Halloween Horror Nights
| event.
| The ad shows a maniacal-looking guy ("The Director") setting up camera
shots of a terrified man in a bathtub full of water, who is then
electrocuted (you see a hand throwing a big switch and hear a scream).
Where I come from, the theme of this commercial is clearly "the making of a
snuff film". Anyone else see it that way?
|
| I've just finished complaining to Universal and to the TV station, and
am debating about how best to make my objections more public. I'm thinking
about complaining to the local vice cops, since snuff films are illegal.
|
| Nurse Ratched (remove "cuckoo" from address to reply)
| We'll all get back to normal if we put our nation first,
| But the trouble with "normal" is, it always gets worse. ~Bruce Cockburn

Thank you for that explanation.
Diana

--
http://photos.yahoo.com/lunamom44
"Anne" wrote in message
...
Royce,

I did a google in groups and found that blueberry has posted to, and
seems to be a troll in, a number of newsgroups. S/he has trolled at the
weigh****chers group, many alt.religion groups, several pagan groups,
and now here.

I don't know who the "us" that blueberry person was referring to, but if
s/he meant Wiccans, I'd like explain a little. Halloween, or Samhain, is
one of the primary high holy days for Wiccans. It is the time of year to
honor, appreciate and remember the other side of the wheel of life.

Many other religions also celebrate some sort of a day where you honor
your beloved dead. What we (Wiccans) do *not* do is advocate helping
anyone to join the dead in any untimely manner the way the ads Nurse
Ratched mentioned seem to do.

Unfortunately, Samhain has gone the way of the Christians' Christmas --
way too commercial and the original religious meanings are all jumbled
up with the perceptions of people who do not understand nor practice the
original way of remembering the holiday. Not to be too disrespectful,
but imagine some day in the future when Ramadan is turned into a
weight-loss festival.

Sorry that this has sort of turned into another rant. I guess my buttons
got pushed on this one. I agree with Nurse and think this sort of horror
needs to be fought by all life affirming people.

--
Anne in CA
"Don't miss the diamonds along the way; every road has led us here
today." -- Sheryl Crow
http://home.covad.net/~arudolph/annes.htm

Royce wrote:

Hey everyone, here's a copy of a response to this thread that was sent
to me
privately. Did any of you who agreed with Nurse get this also?

Royce
A day hemmed in prayer is less likely to unravel.


----- Original Message -----
From: "blau"
Newsgroups: rec.crafts.textiles.quilting
To: "Royce"
Sent: Thursday, October 02, 2003 6:21 PM
Subject: OT Halloween Horror Nights Rant



How ridiculous can you get! Halloween is nearly upon us and has become
the most celebrated holiday in the U.S. What ever it takes to promote
it and the fun things that go on are okay with us.
Halloween is my kind of party. I collect all Halloween materials and
make all kinds of Halloween and Wiccan quilts.
Don't bug us about our times and we won't bug the silly xians who put
animals and people out on their lawns.

Royce wrote:

I agree with you, Nurse. Fight it & call the news media, (papers & TV
stations).





"Nurse Ratched" wrote in message
...

Does anyone else live near a Universal Studios attraction?

I do, and they've been running ads for their Halloween Horror Nights

event.

The ad shows a maniacal-looking guy ("The Director") setting up camera

shots of

a terrified man in a bathtub full of water, who is then electrocuted
(you

see a

hand throwing a big switch and hear a scream). Where I come from, the

theme of

this commercial is clearly "the making of a snuff film". Anyone else
see

it

that way?

I've just finished complaining to Universal and to the TV station, and
am
debating about how best to make my objections more public. I'm thinking

about

complaining to the local vice cops, since snuff films are illegal.

Nurse Ratched (remove "cuckoo" from address to reply)
We'll all get back to normal if we put our nation first,
But the trouble with "normal" is, it always gets worse. ~Bruce Cockburn

Did any of you who agreed with Nurse get this also?

Royce

I agreed with myself and didn't get it. Besides, I'm not objecting to the
holiday--I'm objecting to using a theme of snuff films to promote it. I would
think that someone who views the holiday as a religious observance (or
something like one), as Wiccans do, would share that viewpoint not object to
it.


Nurse Ratched (remove "cuckoo" from address to reply)
We'll all get back to normal if we put our nation first,
But the trouble with "normal" is, it always gets worse. ~Bruce Cockburn

Here is the reply I got from Universal. Apparently, their view is, as long as
the characters are fictional it's OK.....??????

Thank you for visiting Universal Orlando Online.

Halloween Horror Nights at Universal Orlando is far more intense than the
typical theme park Halloween event. We communicate the intense nature of
our event to our guests by using characters such as The Director so that
they can make informed decisions about whether or not this event is for
them. He is a fictional character that we bring to life and - like
Halloween Horror Nights itself - he's not tied to real world people or
events.

From Rock the Universe to Mardi Gras to Halloween Horror Nights, Universal
Orlando offers a wide range of events for a wide range of tastes and
demographics. We use our advertising to make sure people understand that.

We always appreciate feedback from our guests and we will use the
information in our ongoing event planning and promotional efforts.

Please keep watching us here at http://www.universalorlando.com, as we will
have many exciting and new developments in the next few months.

Best Regards,

Guest Services

Nurse Ratched (remove "cuckoo" from address to reply)
We'll all get back to normal if we put our nation first,
But the trouble with "normal" is, it always gets worse. ~Bruce Cockburn

You know, that really sounds like a canned response. Makes me wonder
how many people object to the "attractions" that night in general.

Nurse Ratched wrote:

Here is the reply I got from Universal. Apparently, their view is, as long as
the characters are fictional it's OK.....??????

Thank you for visiting Universal Orlando Online.

Halloween Horror Nights at Universal Orlando is far more intense than the
typical theme park Halloween event. We communicate the intense nature of
our event to our guests by using characters such as The Director so that
they can make informed decisions about whether or not this event is for
them. He is a fictional character that we bring to life and - like
Halloween Horror Nights itself - he's not tied to real world people or
events.

From Rock the Universe to Mardi Gras to Halloween Horror Nights, Universal
Orlando offers a wide range of events for a wide range of tastes and
demographics. We use our advertising to make sure people understand that.

We always appreciate feedback from our guests and we will use the
information in our ongoing event planning and promotional efforts.

Please keep watching us here at http://www.universalorlando.com, as we will
have many exciting and new developments in the next few months.

Best Regards,

Guest Services

Nurse Ratched (remove "cuckoo" from address to reply)
We'll all get back to normal if we put our nation first,
But the trouble with "normal" is, it always gets worse. ~Bruce Cockburn

--
the black rose, wench with a wrench
proud to be owned by a yorkie

On Fri, 03 Oct 2003 15:30:44 -0700, Anne
wrote:

Royce,

I did a google in groups and found that blueberry has posted to, and
seems to be a troll in, a number of newsgroups. S/he has trolled at the
weigh****chers group, many alt.religion groups, several pagan groups,
and now here.

I don't know who the "us" that blueberry person was referring to, but if
s/he meant Wiccans, I'd like explain a little. Halloween, or Samhain, is
one of the primary high holy days for Wiccans. It is the time of year to
honor, appreciate and remember the other side of the wheel of life.

Many other religions also celebrate some sort of a day where you honor
your beloved dead. What we (Wiccans) do *not* do is advocate helping
anyone to join the dead in any untimely manner the way the ads Nurse
Ratched mentioned seem to do.

Unfortunately, Samhain has gone the way of the Christians' Christmas --
way too commercial and the original religious meanings are all jumbled
up with the perceptions of people who do not understand nor practice the
original way of remembering the holiday. Not to be too disrespectful,
but imagine some day in the future when Ramadan is turned into a
weight-loss festival.

Sorry that this has sort of turned into another rant. I guess my buttons
got pushed on this one. I agree with Nurse and think this sort of horror
needs to be fought by all life affirming people.


Regarding the "blueberry" address, that is the very address that our
friend "Cheyne" was posting under,who sent a rude email to myself and
who I killfiled and blocked in my email. He/she is a troll.
Please add this address to your killfile, and block it in your
email; also delete any that come to your inbox since no joy will come
from communicating with it.


-- Jo in Scotland