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Mitered borders - am I nuts?
Whereas those might seem like completely unrelated questions, this time they
are not. I've never done mitered borders before. I like the ease and simplicity of straight borders. Occasionally, I'll do a corner block for variety. However, my current project is screaming (and moaning and howling - it's a Halloween quilt - Trick or Treat Around the World) for mitered borders. I have this really cool border fabric that is a border stripe with words. http://www.thedoormouse.com/cgi-imag...130161_l.jp g Having never done mitered borders, am I tackling the impossible by starting with one that needs to be matched up? Matching 3 corners should be relatively easy, but the 4th one won't match up without a bit of magicks, right? My skills have improved, especially since I've been doing bias seams on my bindings. I have Fons & Porter's Complete Quilting Guide for reference. -- Wendy, wondering where she left the quilting spellbook http://griffinsflight.com/Quilting/quilt1.htm de-fang email address to reply |
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"frood" wrote: Whereas those might seem like completely unrelated questions, this time they are not. I've never done mitered borders before. I like the ease and simplicity of straight borders. Occasionally, I'll do a corner block for variety. However, my current project is screaming (and moaning and howling - it's a Halloween quilt - Trick or Treat Around the World) for mitered borders. I have this really cool border fabric that is a border stripe with words. http://www.thedoormouse.com/cgi-imag...=dmouse&image= 130161_l.jpg Having never done mitered borders, am I tackling the impossible by starting with one that needs to be matched up? Matching 3 corners should be relatively easy, but the 4th one won't match up without a bit of magicks, right? My skills have improved, especially since I've been doing bias seams on my bindings. I have Fons & Porter's Complete Quilting Guide for reference. Wendy, I love mitered borders, so I don't think you're nuts at all. g As for how to match them up, if it's not possible to cut them so as to match easily, why don't you match the corners and then try taking a bit out of the middle of the sides to make the right measurement? If you do it carefully, it should work well. -- Sandy in Henderson, near Las Vegas my ISP is earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~s-foster |
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I forgot about that method! I did see Jinny Beyer or somebody demo'ing that
on SQ once. I'm going to lay everything out, and see what needs fiddling with. Wait. You met me, and you still don't think I'm nuts? What's wrong with *you*?!?! -- Wendy http://griffinsflight.com/Quilting/quilt1.htm de-fang email address to reply "Sandy Foster" wrote in message ... In article , Wendy, I love mitered borders, so I don't think you're nuts at all. g As for how to match them up, if it's not possible to cut them so as to match easily, why don't you match the corners and then try taking a bit out of the middle of the sides to make the right measurement? If you do it carefully, it should work well. -- Sandy in Henderson, near Las Vegas my ISP is earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~s-foster |
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Howdy!
Nutz? Well..... g And so what? Mitered borders? I've seen this done this way: http://www.quiltuniversity.com/metho...or_borders.htm as well as the J.B. "cut in the middle" technique. Good luck! Ragmop/Sandy "frood" wrote in message m... I forgot about that method! I did see Jinny Beyer or somebody demo'ing that on SQ once. I'm going to lay everything out, and see what needs fiddling with. Wait. You met me, and you still don't think I'm nuts? What's wrong with *you*?!?! -- Wendy http://griffinsflight.com/Quilting/quilt1.htm de-fang email address to reply "Sandy Foster" wrote in message ... In article , Wendy, I love mitered borders, so I don't think you're nuts at all. g As for how to match them up, if it's not possible to cut them so as to match easily, why don't you match the corners and then try taking a bit out of the middle of the sides to make the right measurement? If you do it carefully, it should work well. -- Sandy in Henderson, near Las Vegas my ISP is earthlink.net http://home.earthlink.net/~s-foster |
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Not to argue for the sake of arguing (I do, often, but not this time), but
that won't help match up the pattern in the fabric. -- Wendy (who's nuts now? huh?) http://griffinsflight.com/Quilting/quilt1.htm de-fang email address to reply " Ellison" wrote in message news Howdy! Nutz? Well..... g And so what? Mitered borders? I've seen this done this way: http://www.quiltuniversity.com/metho...or_borders.htm as well as the J.B. "cut in the middle" technique. Good luck! Ragmop/Sandy |
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Yes, but we already knew that!
Okay, so I jogged down the hall and pulled that same fabric out of my stash. (Well, out of a pile on the floor to be honest, but we're not into vacuuming anyhow, right?) So, I have this same fabric on the computer desk right now. So, what exactly do you want to match? Do you want to match word order? Don't even go there!! Are you trying to match those wavy blue and green lines? That could be a major challenge, given the irregularity of the motif. Do you want to center and then match the row of colorful squares? Ah, that IS the easiest one to do. If you match up those rows of squares then the viewer's eyes will just follow the row around the corners and not pay much attention to the slight irregularity in the wavy lines. BTW: This probably only makes sense to people who have the fabric, but you could get an idea by viewing the sample Wendy posted. Miters are NOT difficult. I like to baste the corner before I cut it, check the result, stitch the final stitches if satisfied, then trim the seams, and finally press the seam open. It is much easier than you would think. HTH. PAT in VA/USA frood wrote: Whereas those might seem like completely unrelated questions, this time they are not. I've never done mitered borders before. I like the ease and simplicity of straight borders. Occasionally, I'll do a corner block for variety. However, my current project is screaming (and moaning and howling - it's a Halloween quilt - Trick or Treat Around the World) for mitered borders. I have this really cool border fabric that is a border stripe with words. http://www.thedoormouse.com/cgi-imag...130161_l.jp g Having never done mitered borders, am I tackling the impossible by starting with one that needs to be matched up? Matching 3 corners should be relatively easy, but the 4th one won't match up without a bit of magicks, right? My skills have improved, especially since I've been doing bias seams on my bindings. I have Fons & Porter's Complete Quilting Guide for reference. |
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OK, look at the fabric. I'm using the section between the row of red squares
and the row of green squares (inclusive) with the words right side up if the blue wavy line is closest to the body of the quilt. I'd like to have the miters meet up with the wavy lines. Not necessarily perfectly, but close enough. BTW, I got some of that glo-line tape for my rulers when I was in Ft. Washington. I used this for measuring these borders. It's not as bright as shown in the ads, but it did help! -- Wendy http://griffinsflight.com/Quilting/quilt1.htm de-fang email address to reply "Pat in Virginia" wrote in message ... Yes, but we already knew that! Okay, so I jogged down the hall and pulled that same fabric out of my stash. (Well, out of a pile on the floor to be honest, but we're not into vacuuming anyhow, right?) So, I have this same fabric on the computer desk right now. So, what exactly do you want to match? Do you want to match word order? Don't even go there!! Are you trying to match those wavy blue and green lines? That could be a major challenge, given the irregularity of the motif. Do you want to center and then match the row of colorful squares? Ah, that IS the easiest one to do. If you match up those rows of squares then the viewer's eyes will just follow the row around the corners and not pay much attention to the slight irregularity in the wavy lines. BTW: This probably only makes sense to people who have the fabric, but you could get an idea by viewing the sample Wendy posted. Miters are NOT difficult. I like to baste the corner before I cut it, check the result, stitch the final stitches if satisfied, then trim the seams, and finally press the seam open. It is much easier than you would think. HTH. PAT in VA/USA |
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I waited awhile, because I knew you would get some site links - I'm
useless at that side of things! I thought they might be easier than my trying to explain in writing! However, here are a few pointers: I presume you have cut the borders so that they are exactly the same across the width - we'll take that as a given. If you are trying to match up a specific section of the print at the corners, then you must first match the corners. Match exactly, the two inner corners of the mitre, and pin very carefully. Do this for all four corners. Pin the whole mitre carefully, as you need to try it against the whole quilt before any cutting. (The Net sites will tell you how to pin and sew the actual mitre.) When you are satisfied with the placement, sew the mitre line (it might be easier to stop sewing just before the quarter inch of the inner corner. Turn under the border seam allowance, to make sure that the corner, now it is sewn, fits onto the quilt corner just how you want it - BEFORE you cut anything, even the surplus of the mitre, just in case!!! Once you have the corners as you want them, you can turn your attention to the rest. You will have joins in the centre, but you can either join them together, or join with an insert. If you are not trying to match a particular piece of the border pattern, it is not nearly so difficult, and I think one of the sites, perhaps the Jinny Beyer one, will show how to do that. She may actually explain specific matching? You'll do it fine. .. In article , frood writes Not to argue for the sake of arguing (I do, often, but not this time), but that won't help match up the pattern in the fabric. -- Best Regards pat on the hill |
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Okay, fool that I am ... I am looking at this and considering a
solution. To help you solve this challenge, we need to know if the quilt is square or rectangular. That is VERY important info when planning borders for a quilt. If it is square, then every side will be the same and the solution will be MUCH easier. If so, I suggest you need a length of fabric that is equal to the side of the quilt, plus two times the width of the border, plus about 10" to fudge. (Let's say this is 80") Now, find a specific motif in the center of the yardage. (Let's say this is 40" from the end.) Mark that motif with a safety pin and measure out 40" in each direction. Cut this UNLESS it is nearly the entire available yardage. In that case, just use the entire length, keeping careful note of that center pin!! Do same for a second piece. Now find center of the quilt top edge; mark with pin. Match the center pins of the borders to the center pins of the quilt top. Loosely pin one length to the bottom edge of quilt top and one to the side edge of the quilt top. Fold the corners into miters. How does it look?? If good, then go ahead and cut the other two sides and check them out too. If you are happy, then attach the borders in usual manner. If not, take two Margaritas and call me in the morning. PAT, quilt doctor on call frood wrote: OK, look at the fabric. I'm using the section between the row of red squares and the row of green squares (inclusive) with the words right side up if the blue wavy line is closest to the body of the quilt. I'd like to have the miters meet up with the wavy lines. Not necessarily perfectly, but close enough. BTW, I got some of that glo-line tape for my rulers when I was in Ft. Washington. I used this for measuring these borders. It's not as bright as shown in the ads, but it did help! |
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It's rectangular, but not by much. About 42 x 46. However, I understand what
you describe (what miracle occured for that to happen?!?), and will give it a try. Tomorrow. When Spike and Giles are at preschool. I just have to figure out how to keep Mungo off it! Every time I lay it on the floor to measure for borders, he comes and sits in the middle of it. I guess he likes it! -- Wendy http://griffinsflight.com/Quilting/quilt1.htm de-fang email address to reply "Pat in Virginia" wrote in message ... Okay, fool that I am ... I am looking at this and considering a solution. To help you solve this challenge, we need to know if the quilt is square or rectangular. That is VERY important info when planning borders for a quilt. If it is square, then every side will be the same and the solution will be MUCH easier. If so, I suggest you need a length of fabric that is equal to the side of the quilt, plus two times the width of the border, plus about 10" to fudge. (Let's say this is 80") Now, find a specific motif in the center of the yardage. (Let's say this is 40" from the end.) Mark that motif with a safety pin and measure out 40" in each direction. Cut this UNLESS it is nearly the entire available yardage. In that case, just use the entire length, keeping careful note of that center pin!! Do same for a second piece. Now find center of the quilt top edge; mark with pin. Match the center pins of the borders to the center pins of the quilt top. Loosely pin one length to the bottom edge of quilt top and one to the side edge of the quilt top. Fold the corners into miters. How does it look?? If good, then go ahead and cut the other two sides and check them out too. If you are happy, then attach the borders in usual manner. If not, take two Margaritas and call me in the morning. PAT, quilt doctor on call |
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