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Does any one have good sources on Antique Jewelry making techniques?
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Ganesh wrote:
Does any one have good sources on Antique Jewelry making techniques? Could you be a bit more specific, like in "What kind of antique jewelry?" Victorian, Edwardian, Art Deco, Art Nouveau, Etruscan, Egyptian, European, Asian, Middle Eastern. The variety is much too large to answer the question easily. However, the short answer is, examine every piece of antique jewelry you see or get to repair, very closely. By doing this, an experienced goldsmith can usually figure out how it is made. Do this for many years, and you will become quite good at making jewelry the way it was made years ago. A colleague of mine here in San Francisco, is one of the best "copiers" of antique jewelry, and he is mostly self taught. He has literally repaired many hundreds of pieces of antique jewelry over the last several decades. By doing this he has learned how to copy pieces in the style they were made. Most recently, he had to replace a lost 18th century earring, which was made of silver and gold, with rose cut diamonds. The result was practically indistinguishable from the original. I was the only one of 6 colleagues who picked the copy from the original. (the color of the gold ear wire was different from the original. The alloy of the copy was more yellow than the original, which was only visible under certain lighting conditions). -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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Does any one have good sources on Antique Jewelry making techniques? The word 'antique' means 'over 100 years old'. Do you mean 'reproduction jewellery'? If so you need to define a period and style. -- William Black "Any number under six" The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff. |
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On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:56:59 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry Ganesh
wrote: Does any one have good sources on Antique Jewelry making techniques? Most of the modern techniques of jewelry making, at least the traditional "benchwork" methods, have roots in antiquity. Modern times have added better steel for tools, electric motors and lights, torches, etc. But the basics haven't changed all that much. If you understand jewelry making well by modern methods, then careful examination of ancient works will usually give you a fairly good idea of how things were made. But of course, some of the specific methods will be different. For example, if you are used to setting stones with a flex shaft motor and burs to cut the seats, and have never seen a manual bow drill used, or seen a seat cut with and engraving tool, then that method may not be apparent to you. Likewise, if you're used to making sheet and wire with rolling mills and drawplates, then ancient methods using hammers to forge sheet, or making wire by cutting a strip of sheet metal and then rolling, forming, and stretching it, may also not be as apparent. If you're used to soldering with a torch, then soldering using a furnace might seem strange. But in reality, the things the metal is being asked to do is about the same in any of these cases, only the specific tools change. And the effort and skills involved. Some good references for background and history and the like might include Jack Ogden's 1983 book, "jewelry of the ancient world", which gives lots of good information that can help you identify old authentic pieces from modern reproductions, as well as info on ancient metalurgy and methods. For more modern information, such as the 1900s or so, find almost any of the old books on goldsmithing by George Gee. These turn of the century (1900 or so) books detailed the methods used in england at the time, which are pretty typical of methods from the beginning of the industrial revolution up till then. The more modern book, Herbert Maryon's "Metalwork and Enamelling" is still in print as a Dover reprint. Maryon worked as a restorer and smith for the British Museum, and his detailed text is a goldmine of both old and new methods. There are, of course, many other fine books on goldsmithing or metalworking, all of which have something to add. But these should give you a start. Ogden's book may be hard to find. If you find a copy for sale, snap it up. It's worth the money. Maryon's books is available, inexpensive, and good enough to recommend to any interested jeweler, not just those looking to past methods. George Gee's books, of course, are long out of print, but occasionally you'll find them in libraries, or antique book stores, especially in England and Europe. Hope that helps. Peter Rowe |
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On Aug 25, 9:56 pm, Ganesh wrote:
Does any one have good sources on Antique Jewelry making techniques? One way to accomplish this would be to use the books appraisers use - one that a world renowned appraiser wrote is Cameos - Old & New - the link to it on Amazon is: http://www.amazon.com/Cameos-Old-Ann...289 &sr=3D8-1 There are books on Gold Filigree - books by period ie Victorian, Art Deco, etc. These books tell you what to look for when dating a piece - those are the same details that would be important if you were trying to reproduce or just create in the style of... Robyn Hawk http://facebook.com/aflyonthewallblogs |
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On Aug 26, 8:38=A0pm, Abrasha wrote:
Ganesh wrote: Does any one have good sources on Antique Jewelry making techniques? Could you be a bit more specific, like in "What kind of antique jewelry?" Victorian, Edwardian, Art Deco, Art Nouveau, Etruscan, Egyptian, European, Asian, Middle Eastern. I studying all of them. |
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On Aug 27, 10:05 am, Peter W. Rowe
wrote: Most of the modern techniques of jewelry making, at least the traditional "benchwork" methods, have roots in antiquity. Modern times have added better steel for tools, electric motors and lights, torches, etc. But the basics haven't changed all that much. If you understand jewelry making well by modern methods, then careful examination of ancient works will usually give you a fairly good idea of how things were made. But of course, some of the specific methods will be different. For example, if you are used to setting stones with a flex shaft motor and burs to cut the seats, and have never seen a manual bow drill used, or seen a seat cut with and engraving tool, then that method may not be apparent to you. Likewise, if you're used to making sheet and wire with rolling mills and drawplates, then ancient methods using hammers to forge sheet, or making wire by cutting a strip of sheet metal and then rolling, forming, and stretching it, may also not be as apparent. If you're used to soldering with a torch, then soldering using a furnace might seem strange. But in reality, the things the metal is being asked to do is about the same in any of these cases, only the specific tools change. And the effort and skills involved. Some good references for background and history and the like might include Jack Ogden's 1983 book, "jewelry of the ancient world", which gives lots of good information that can help you identify old authentic pieces from modern reproductions, as well as info on ancient metalurgy and methods. For more modern information, such as the 1900s or so, find almost any of the old books Thanks for the inputs provided. I wanted to study in-depth the old methods. |
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On Aug 27, 10:05am, Peter W. Rowe
wrote: On Tue, 25 Aug 2009 21:56:59 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry Ganesh wrote: Does any one have good sources on Antique Jewelry making techniques? Most of the modern techniques of jewelry making, at least the traditional "benchwork" methods, have roots in antiquity. Modern times have added better steel for tools, electric motors and lights, torches, etc. But the basics haven't changed all that much. If you understand jewelry making well by modern methods, then careful examination of ancient works will usually give you a fairly good idea of how things were made. But of course, some of the specific methods will be different. For example, if you are used to setting stones with a flex shaft motor and burs to cut the seats, and have never seen a manual bow drill used, or seen a seat cut with and engraving tool, then that method may not be apparent to you. Likewise, if you're used to making sheet and wire with rolling mills and drawplates, then ancient methods using hammers to forge sheet, or making wire by cutting a strip of sheet metal and then rolling, forming, and stretching it, may also not be as apparent. If you're used to soldering with a torch, then soldering using a furnace might seem strange. But in reality, the things the metal is being asked to do is about the same in any of these cases, only the specific tools change. And the effort and skills involved. Some good references for background and history and the like might include Jack Ogden's 1983 book, "jewelry of the ancient world", which gives lots of good information that can help you identify old authentic pieces from modern reproductions, as well as info on ancient metalurgy and methods. For more modern information, such as the 1900s or so, find almost any of the old books on goldsmithing by George Gee. These turn of the century (1900 or so) books detailed the methods used in england at the time, which are pretty typical of methods from the beginning of the industrial revolution up till then. The more modern book, Herbert Maryon's "Metalwork and Enamelling" is still in print as a Dover reprint. Maryon worked as a restorer and smith for the British Museum, and his detailed text is a goldmine of both old and new methods. There are, of course, many other fine books on goldsmithing or metalworking, all of which have something to add. But these should give you a start. Ogden's book may be hard to find. If you find a copy for sale, snap it up. It's worth the money. Maryon's books is available, inexpensive, and good enough to recommend to any interested jeweler, not just those looking to past methods. George Gee's books, of course, are long out of print, but occasionally you'll find them in libraries, or antique book stores, especially in England and Europe. Hope that helps. Peter Rowe This one's very easy to make http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:We...uvre_AC924.jpg Displayed at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jewellery |
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On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:30:08 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry Ganesh
wrote: This one's very easy to make http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:We...uvre_AC924.jpg with modern tools and methods, yes. Doing it with starting raw materials and tools available to the 7th century byzantine goldsmith might be a bit more daunting. A ring like that, for example, likely was not cast, so one would need to have some skill with chisels or engraving tools to do the carving, and the steel back then wasn't as good, not to mention the fact that the goldsmith would have had to make his own tools beforehand. Remember, files for shaping metal were not yet available either. Most forming would be with hammers... And you couldn't just go to your metals dealer and buy ready to use sheet or wire... Also, the niello (black) inlay isn't quite as simple to do as might seem, especially with ancient technologies. Doable? certainly. But I think I'd take the word "very" out from your sentance... Peter |
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Peter W. Rowe wrote:
On Mon, 31 Aug 2009 10:30:08 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry Ganesh wrote: This one's very easy to make http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:We...uvre_AC924.jpg with modern tools and methods, yes. Doing it with starting raw materials and tools available to the 7th century byzantine goldsmith might be a bit more daunting. A ring like that, for example, likely was not cast, so one would need to have some skill with chisels or engraving tools to do the carving, and the steel back then wasn't as good, not to mention the fact that the goldsmith would have had to make his own tools beforehand. Remember, files for shaping metal were not yet available either. Most forming would be with hammers... And you couldn't just go to your metals dealer and buy ready to use sheet or wire... Also, the niello (black) inlay isn't quite as simple to do as might seem, especially with ancient technologies. Doable? certainly. But I think I'd take the word "very" out from your sentance... We don't know what the original looked like. We don't know what purity of gold was used. The thing has a thousand years of wear and other detail placed on it. How do you find out what the original looked like? -- William Black "Any number under six" The answer given by Englishman Richard Peeke when asked by the Duke of Medina Sidonia how many Spanish sword and buckler men he could beat single handed with a quarterstaff. |
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