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I did it - and I love it! - Lampwork studio set up questions
My lampwork class was this weekend - it was so great! I don't think I can
wait for my husband to put a window and ventilation in the garage (because it will probably take a year for that to happen), so I'm eyeing my laundry room - it's got a window that opens, a ventilation fan in the ceiling...tile floors... it's small, but maybe that is good since I tend to SPREAD all my cr@p out everywhere and small would make me want to stay organized. Do you think it's ok to do it in the house like that? And now I'm eyeing two starter kits: http://www.arrowsprings.com/html/kits.html The Basics - Professional MINOR BURNER OXYGEN REGULATOR PROPANE REGULATOR HOSE SET Regular: $331.00 DISCOUNT PRICE: $297.90 and same stuff (don't know about the brand of the burner) he http://www.artglass1.com/kitslamp4.htm for $269. Has anyone ever ordered from Sundance? Their prices for everything seem really a bunch lower than the other places I'm finding... sometimes you get what you pay for - is this the case with them? Their kilns are also lower priced than most I've been finding... I know I don't need a kiln right off - because I know I need lots of practice... but having a kiln would let me start playing with PMC right off and that would make me really happy too I think... plus there is a PMC certification class in March - so if I started playing now, I might be ready for that by then.... so I'm back to kiln questions. A lot of the kilns I'm finding that have the built in controller and a front door say they are good for PMC, fusing and annealing... but I'm wondering how in the world do you put the beads with the mandrels still on them in the kiln and then close the door - I think the mandrels would stick out too far - see this pictu http://www.artglass1.com/paragon-sc2-1-r.htm and scroll down to where they have the fiber blankets and bead rack set up - do they NOT close the door?? Do they just use the fiber blanket to hold the heat in??? I'm so confused. I thought you had to lock them up tight, let them soak, then ramp the temp down slowly... Ok that's it for now I think... thanks for any responses! Pam |
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I have my studio in my laundry room in the house as well, and it's fine as
long as you have adequate ventilation. Mine had a ceiling vent as well, and we took the vent off, attached an air duct to a range hood from Home Depot and attached that to the ceiling (chains) a few feet above my torch. This pumps the air right out. Just crack the window so you have air flow in and you will have really good ventilation. Also, make sure you have some fireproof flooring of some sort. We just bought the backer board from Home Depot and put it down right over the carpet. It's been working very well. You can also put this on your table top, if you don't have a steel table to work on. Make sure you have a fire extinguisher and first aid kit around, and if you're using a propane torch, make sure your tank is outside, and that you have a carbon monoxide detector inside your studio. I drilled a hole in my wall (well, okay, I had my carpenter friend do it) to pump the propane inside - make sure the hole is sealed once the hose is in. If you're using a hothead, that's not an issue, and ventilation is not as big a deal as well, but you should have something pumping air out and bringing air back in. Feel free to ask any more questions! Check out Jim Kervin's book "More Than You Ever Needed To Know About Glass Beadmaking" - this covers a lot on studio set up and all you need to know about glass. Good luck and have lots of fun! -- Kandice Seeber Air & Earth Designs http://www.lampwork.net My lampwork class was this weekend - it was so great! I don't think I can wait for my husband to put a window and ventilation in the garage (because it will probably take a year for that to happen), so I'm eyeing my laundry room - it's got a window that opens, a ventilation fan in the ceiling...tile floors... it's small, but maybe that is good since I tend to SPREAD all my cr@p out everywhere and small would make me want to stay organized. Do you think it's ok to do it in the house like that? And now I'm eyeing two starter kits: http://www.arrowsprings.com/html/kits.html The Basics - Professional MINOR BURNER OXYGEN REGULATOR PROPANE REGULATOR HOSE SET Regular: $331.00 DISCOUNT PRICE: $297.90 and same stuff (don't know about the brand of the burner) he http://www.artglass1.com/kitslamp4.htm for $269. Has anyone ever ordered from Sundance? Their prices for everything seem really a bunch lower than the other places I'm finding... sometimes you get what you pay for - is this the case with them? Their kilns are also lower priced than most I've been finding... I know I don't need a kiln right off - because I know I need lots of practice... but having a kiln would let me start playing with PMC right off and that would make me really happy too I think... plus there is a PMC certification class in March - so if I started playing now, I might be ready for that by then.... so I'm back to kiln questions. A lot of the kilns I'm finding that have the built in controller and a front door say they are good for PMC, fusing and annealing... but I'm wondering how in the world do you put the beads with the mandrels still on them in the kiln and then close the door - I think the mandrels would stick out too far - see this pictu http://www.artglass1.com/paragon-sc2-1-r.htm and scroll down to where they have the fiber blankets and bead rack set up - do they NOT close the door?? Do they just use the fiber blanket to hold the heat in??? I'm so confused. I thought you had to lock them up tight, let them soak, then ramp the temp down slowly... Ok that's it for now I think... thanks for any responses! Pam |
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I have my studio in my laundry room in the house as well, and it's fine as
long as you have adequate ventilation. Mine had a ceiling vent as well, and we took the vent off, attached an air duct to a range hood from Home Depot and attached that to the ceiling (chains) a few feet above my torch. This pumps the air right out. Just crack the window so you have air flow in and you will have really good ventilation. Also, make sure you have some fireproof flooring of some sort. We just bought the backer board from Home Depot and put it down right over the carpet. It's been working very well. You can also put this on your table top, if you don't have a steel table to work on. Make sure you have a fire extinguisher and first aid kit around, and if you're using a propane torch, make sure your tank is outside, and that you have a carbon monoxide detector inside your studio. I drilled a hole in my wall (well, okay, I had my carpenter friend do it) to pump the propane inside - make sure the hole is sealed once the hose is in. If you're using a hothead, that's not an issue, and ventilation is not as big a deal as well, but you should have something pumping air out and bringing air back in. Feel free to ask any more questions! Check out Jim Kervin's book "More Than You Ever Needed To Know About Glass Beadmaking" - this covers a lot on studio set up and all you need to know about glass. Good luck and have lots of fun! -- Kandice Seeber Air & Earth Designs http://www.lampwork.net My lampwork class was this weekend - it was so great! I don't think I can wait for my husband to put a window and ventilation in the garage (because it will probably take a year for that to happen), so I'm eyeing my laundry room - it's got a window that opens, a ventilation fan in the ceiling...tile floors... it's small, but maybe that is good since I tend to SPREAD all my cr@p out everywhere and small would make me want to stay organized. Do you think it's ok to do it in the house like that? And now I'm eyeing two starter kits: http://www.arrowsprings.com/html/kits.html The Basics - Professional MINOR BURNER OXYGEN REGULATOR PROPANE REGULATOR HOSE SET Regular: $331.00 DISCOUNT PRICE: $297.90 and same stuff (don't know about the brand of the burner) he http://www.artglass1.com/kitslamp4.htm for $269. Has anyone ever ordered from Sundance? Their prices for everything seem really a bunch lower than the other places I'm finding... sometimes you get what you pay for - is this the case with them? Their kilns are also lower priced than most I've been finding... I know I don't need a kiln right off - because I know I need lots of practice... but having a kiln would let me start playing with PMC right off and that would make me really happy too I think... plus there is a PMC certification class in March - so if I started playing now, I might be ready for that by then.... so I'm back to kiln questions. A lot of the kilns I'm finding that have the built in controller and a front door say they are good for PMC, fusing and annealing... but I'm wondering how in the world do you put the beads with the mandrels still on them in the kiln and then close the door - I think the mandrels would stick out too far - see this pictu http://www.artglass1.com/paragon-sc2-1-r.htm and scroll down to where they have the fiber blankets and bead rack set up - do they NOT close the door?? Do they just use the fiber blanket to hold the heat in??? I'm so confused. I thought you had to lock them up tight, let them soak, then ramp the temp down slowly... Ok that's it for now I think... thanks for any responses! Pam |
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thanks Kandice - excellent suggestion about the range hood! And I was
thinking about if I could drill a hole and run my propane in from outside - why not, hubby drilled a hole to the outside when he was trying to run the cable from the upstairs to the kitchen and didn't measure properly ;-) But that would mean I have to go out side and turn it on and off... in the rain. hmnn... well - hmnn... what if the propane was in the garage which is right next to the laundry room? a hole throught that wall and it's all indoors, yet propane is not technically in the house? What about the oxygen - is that safe inside or should that be out in the garage or outside too? I'm going to go reserve that book from the library right now.... thanks Pam |
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thanks Kandice - excellent suggestion about the range hood! And I was
thinking about if I could drill a hole and run my propane in from outside - why not, hubby drilled a hole to the outside when he was trying to run the cable from the upstairs to the kitchen and didn't measure properly ;-) But that would mean I have to go out side and turn it on and off... in the rain. hmnn... well - hmnn... what if the propane was in the garage which is right next to the laundry room? a hole throught that wall and it's all indoors, yet propane is not technically in the house? What about the oxygen - is that safe inside or should that be out in the garage or outside too? I'm going to go reserve that book from the library right now.... thanks Pam |
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Ummm - I know several lampworkers who have their propane in the garage....I
guess it depends on your garage. I had my hubby build me a frame box to hold both tanks outside when I used oxygen tanks (I now use a concentrator - saves lots of money), but I think it's okay to have oxy in the house, as long as it is held upright and cannot get knocked over. Lots of people do have their oxy tanks inside though. I searched google for lampwork studio and got lots of links to others' set ups with pics... http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ampwork+studio Also, read WetCanvas and ISGB forums for lots more lampworking advice. I *personally* prefer having both tanks outside - but I am told I am overly cautious. LOL My oxy concentrator sits inside under my table and works just fine there. If you plan to do this long term, a concentrator (instead of oxy tanks) will generally save lots of time and money in the long run. Also - if you plan to use silver or frit or powders of any kind, make sure you wear a respirator and make sure that your work area is closed off from the rest of the house. That stuff can be toxic. More on this at WetCanvas and ISGB as well. -- Kandice Seeber Air & Earth Designs http://www.lampwork.net thanks Kandice - excellent suggestion about the range hood! And I was thinking about if I could drill a hole and run my propane in from outside - why not, hubby drilled a hole to the outside when he was trying to run the cable from the upstairs to the kitchen and didn't measure properly ;-) But that would mean I have to go out side and turn it on and off... in the rain. hmnn... well - hmnn... what if the propane was in the garage which is right next to the laundry room? a hole throught that wall and it's all indoors, yet propane is not technically in the house? What about the oxygen - is that safe inside or should that be out in the garage or outside too? I'm going to go reserve that book from the library right now.... thanks Pam |
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Ummm - I know several lampworkers who have their propane in the garage....I
guess it depends on your garage. I had my hubby build me a frame box to hold both tanks outside when I used oxygen tanks (I now use a concentrator - saves lots of money), but I think it's okay to have oxy in the house, as long as it is held upright and cannot get knocked over. Lots of people do have their oxy tanks inside though. I searched google for lampwork studio and got lots of links to others' set ups with pics... http://www.google.com/search?sourcei...ampwork+studio Also, read WetCanvas and ISGB forums for lots more lampworking advice. I *personally* prefer having both tanks outside - but I am told I am overly cautious. LOL My oxy concentrator sits inside under my table and works just fine there. If you plan to do this long term, a concentrator (instead of oxy tanks) will generally save lots of time and money in the long run. Also - if you plan to use silver or frit or powders of any kind, make sure you wear a respirator and make sure that your work area is closed off from the rest of the house. That stuff can be toxic. More on this at WetCanvas and ISGB as well. -- Kandice Seeber Air & Earth Designs http://www.lampwork.net thanks Kandice - excellent suggestion about the range hood! And I was thinking about if I could drill a hole and run my propane in from outside - why not, hubby drilled a hole to the outside when he was trying to run the cable from the upstairs to the kitchen and didn't measure properly ;-) But that would mean I have to go out side and turn it on and off... in the rain. hmnn... well - hmnn... what if the propane was in the garage which is right next to the laundry room? a hole throught that wall and it's all indoors, yet propane is not technically in the house? What about the oxygen - is that safe inside or should that be out in the garage or outside too? I'm going to go reserve that book from the library right now.... thanks Pam |
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Woo hoo!!!!
The kiln I have ordered is this one: http://www.hotglassbeads.com/kilnproducts.htm I ordered it because it is 12 inches deep- so it should hold mandrels. I don't have it yet though You can also use a butane torch to fire PMC and the "hot pot". Can't offer any info on setting up - for now I'm using a Hot head. Kathy (who's responding to post in backward order) K PS- I'll have a report of my PMC Level II certification class later. "Pam" wrote in message news:KWzib.114014$%h1.121530@sccrnsc02... My lampwork class was this weekend - it was so great! I don't think I can wait for my husband to put a window and ventilation in the garage (because it will probably take a year for that to happen), so I'm eyeing my laundry room - it's got a window that opens, a ventilation fan in the ceiling...tile floors... it's small, but maybe that is good since I tend to SPREAD all my cr@p out everywhere and small would make me want to stay organized. Do you think it's ok to do it in the house like that? And now I'm eyeing two starter kits: http://www.arrowsprings.com/html/kits.html The Basics - Professional MINOR BURNER OXYGEN REGULATOR PROPANE REGULATOR HOSE SET Regular: $331.00 DISCOUNT PRICE: $297.90 and same stuff (don't know about the brand of the burner) he http://www.artglass1.com/kitslamp4.htm for $269. Has anyone ever ordered from Sundance? Their prices for everything seem really a bunch lower than the other places I'm finding... sometimes you get what you pay for - is this the case with them? Their kilns are also lower priced than most I've been finding... I know I don't need a kiln right off - because I know I need lots of practice... but having a kiln would let me start playing with PMC right off and that would make me really happy too I think... plus there is a PMC certification class in March - so if I started playing now, I might be ready for that by then.... so I'm back to kiln questions. A lot of the kilns I'm finding that have the built in controller and a front door say they are good for PMC, fusing and annealing... but I'm wondering how in the world do you put the beads with the mandrels still on them in the kiln and then close the door - I think the mandrels would stick out too far - see this pictu http://www.artglass1.com/paragon-sc2-1-r.htm and scroll down to where they have the fiber blankets and bead rack set up - do they NOT close the door?? Do they just use the fiber blanket to hold the heat in??? I'm so confused. I thought you had to lock them up tight, let them soak, then ramp the temp down slowly... Ok that's it for now I think... thanks for any responses! Pam |
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Woo hoo!!!!
The kiln I have ordered is this one: http://www.hotglassbeads.com/kilnproducts.htm I ordered it because it is 12 inches deep- so it should hold mandrels. I don't have it yet though You can also use a butane torch to fire PMC and the "hot pot". Can't offer any info on setting up - for now I'm using a Hot head. Kathy (who's responding to post in backward order) K PS- I'll have a report of my PMC Level II certification class later. "Pam" wrote in message news:KWzib.114014$%h1.121530@sccrnsc02... My lampwork class was this weekend - it was so great! I don't think I can wait for my husband to put a window and ventilation in the garage (because it will probably take a year for that to happen), so I'm eyeing my laundry room - it's got a window that opens, a ventilation fan in the ceiling...tile floors... it's small, but maybe that is good since I tend to SPREAD all my cr@p out everywhere and small would make me want to stay organized. Do you think it's ok to do it in the house like that? And now I'm eyeing two starter kits: http://www.arrowsprings.com/html/kits.html The Basics - Professional MINOR BURNER OXYGEN REGULATOR PROPANE REGULATOR HOSE SET Regular: $331.00 DISCOUNT PRICE: $297.90 and same stuff (don't know about the brand of the burner) he http://www.artglass1.com/kitslamp4.htm for $269. Has anyone ever ordered from Sundance? Their prices for everything seem really a bunch lower than the other places I'm finding... sometimes you get what you pay for - is this the case with them? Their kilns are also lower priced than most I've been finding... I know I don't need a kiln right off - because I know I need lots of practice... but having a kiln would let me start playing with PMC right off and that would make me really happy too I think... plus there is a PMC certification class in March - so if I started playing now, I might be ready for that by then.... so I'm back to kiln questions. A lot of the kilns I'm finding that have the built in controller and a front door say they are good for PMC, fusing and annealing... but I'm wondering how in the world do you put the beads with the mandrels still on them in the kiln and then close the door - I think the mandrels would stick out too far - see this pictu http://www.artglass1.com/paragon-sc2-1-r.htm and scroll down to where they have the fiber blankets and bead rack set up - do they NOT close the door?? Do they just use the fiber blanket to hold the heat in??? I'm so confused. I thought you had to lock them up tight, let them soak, then ramp the temp down slowly... Ok that's it for now I think... thanks for any responses! Pam |
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Ok, an oxygen concentrator... will have to look into that. Hubby did not
like the idea of oxygen tanks in the house either. The more I learn the more I realize I don't know. Will check the link and search wet canvas again. Thanks for answering my questions |
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