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streching the bracelet
Is it possible to strech a 9" (5mm wide, 2mm thick), 14k curb bracelet (not
solid), so that it becomes long enough to be worn as a chain (at least 18"), but that it still remains wearable i.e. strong enough? |
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m4816k wrote:
Is it possible to strech a 9" (5mm wide, 2mm thick), 14k curb bracelet (not solid), so that it becomes long enough to be worn as a chain (at least 18"), but that it still remains wearable i.e. strong enough? You're kidding, right?!? You can't be serious. Why don't you try it. See what happens. -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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On Mar 16, 5:53*pm, Abrasha wrote:
m4816k wrote: Is it possible to strech a 9" (5mm wide, 2mm thick), 14k curb bracelet (not solid), so that it becomes long enough to be worn as a chain (at least 18"), but that it still remains wearable i.e. strong enough? You're kidding, right?!? You can't be serious. Why don't you try it. *See what happens. -- Abrashahttp://www.abrasha.com LOL, I honestly have no idea if that would work or not, but I'm going to uh, "go out on a limb here"... and say that Abrasha does NOT think it will work !' Heh, heh... Just curious but if you had the time (say a year or three) could it physically be done ? Could one actually 'stretch' 14K that way even if you did it piece by piece ? With the length needed, wouldn't that chain become like 28 Gauge wire or something.... ? /FC... |
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On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:23:48 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry "FC..."
wrote: I honestly have no idea if that would work or not, but I'm going to uh, "go out on a limb here"... and say that Abrasha does NOT think it will work !' Heh, heh... Just curious but if you had the time (say a year or three) could it physically be done ? Could one actually 'stretch' 14K that way even if you did it piece by piece ? With the length needed, wouldn't that chain become like 28 Gauge wire or something.... ? /FC... With a curb link, if you just pull it to stretch, it won't stay flat any more. Additional twisting sort of fixes that, but the fit of the links together would be wrong. And that's with just a small bit of stretch. You couldn't likely get more than that before links would start breaking instead of stretching. Some chains, usually things like square box or foxtail, etc, can even stand a bit of rolling through a wire rolling mill or more, drawing down through a drawplate. But the result doesn't end up limp and flexible and similar to the original. And actually doubling the length, well, you'd destroy it. You might get a loop in loop (sometimes called etruscan) type to draw down a bit more, but not double. Some chains turn into visually interesting things when run through a flat rolling mill. But don't expect that result to be a usable chain for a necklace. However, with unlimited time, making the chain longer is easy. You melt it down to a wire ingot, roll and draw it down to a smaller diameter wire than the original chain, the needed guage determined mathematically by how much wire of a given guage you need to make a desired length of whatever design of chain you now proceed to make with your new wire. Curb link, or cable link style chains are not actually that hard to make, especially heavier guage wire sizes. Now, this didn't start out all that heavy, so it would be more practical to make a simpler cable link (just the classic oval link chain style, rather than twisted to flat like a curb link). Doing that, getting an 18 inch chain would be pretty routine, other than the time needed to make it. You don't even need unlimited time. Just enough to do the job. And then you end up with a new handmade chain with your old gold. Peter |
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"Peter W. Rowe" wrote in message
... On Tue, 17 Mar 2009 21:23:48 -0700, in rec.crafts.jewelry "FC..." wrote: I honestly have no idea if that would work or not, but I'm going to uh, "go out on a limb here"... and say that Abrasha does NOT think it will work !' Heh, heh... Just curious but if you had the time (say a year or three) could it physically be done ? Could one actually 'stretch' 14K that way even if you did it piece by piece ? With the length needed, wouldn't that chain become like 28 Gauge wire or something.... ? /FC... With a curb link, if you just pull it to stretch, it won't stay flat any more. Additional twisting sort of fixes that, but the fit of the links together would be wrong. And that's with just a small bit of stretch. You couldn't likely get more than that before links would start breaking instead of stretching. Some chains, usually things like square box or foxtail, etc, can even stand a bit of rolling through a wire rolling mill or more, drawing down through a drawplate. But the result doesn't end up limp and flexible and similar to the original. And actually doubling the length, well, you'd destroy it. You might get a loop in loop (sometimes called etruscan) type to draw down a bit more, but not double. Some chains turn into visually interesting things when run through a flat rolling mill. But don't expect that result to be a usable chain for a necklace. However, with unlimited time, making the chain longer is easy. You melt it down to a wire ingot, roll and draw it down to a smaller diameter wire than the original chain, the needed guage determined mathematically by how much wire of a given guage you need to make a desired length of whatever design of chain you now proceed to make with your new wire. Curb link, or cable link style chains are not actually that hard to make, especially heavier guage wire sizes. Now, this didn't start out all that heavy, so it would be more practical to make a simpler cable link (just the classic oval link chain style, rather than twisted to flat like a curb link). Doing that, getting an 18 inch chain would be pretty routine, other than the time needed to make it. You don't even need unlimited time. Just enough to do the job. And then you end up with a new handmade chain with your old gold. Peter Having done time working on jewellery repair, the words, 'not solid' stand out like a sore thumb. Hollow chains are a nightmare they fold at the slightest pinch, the chain will squash and fall to bits, and melting it down may possibly get you enough metal for a very very fine chain indeed! mandy |
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