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While you stitch - who's watching the Olympics
Cheryl Isaak wrote:
And which sports are you watching. I'm watching the swimming, the gymnastics and equestrian (when I can find it). I'll watch the track and field stuff when that coverage starts. I have the cheap cable selection, so I only get NBC proper, Telemundo and USA. Whoever's broadcasting is who I have on. I impress myself with how much of the Spanish I understand on Telemundo. My "huh" moments seem to be limited to the occasional word that I don't know, rather than that an entire sentence has whished past me with no comprehension. In preparation for this, I had, on Opening Day, downloaded a Spanish-language newspaper that had a schedule, so I could at least puzzle out/look up the names of the sports before it started. Now if only Telemundo and the newspaper would use the same name for the events! (Escuestra (sp?) and equitacion are the same thing, I have discovered, but only because Telemundo had a picture of a horsey on the screen when they were discussing the one I couldn't puzzle out without a dictionary!) -- Karen C - California Editor/Proofreader www.IntlProofingConsortium.com Finished 7/27/08 - MLI Christmas Visit WIP: Oriental Kimono (Janlynn), MLI The Teacher (gift to the library), Bethany Angel (Marbek) Retrieved from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel, MLI Farmers Market CFSfacts -- where we give you the facts and dispel the myths Myths, with research cites: http://www.aacfs.org/images/pdfs/myths.pdf Newest research blog: http://journals.aol.com/kmc528/Lifeasweknowit/ |
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While you stitch - who's watching the Olympics
anne wrote:
As the mother of a former gymnast, I can vouch for training routines that might stafe off development and puberty. When my daughter's hormones finally kicked in, she grew 4 inches in a few months. Despite the possibility that their training has delayed maturation, the very gifted Chinese girls, imnsho, are definitely not 16. I can vouch for it, too. I was so overactive/underweight as a result of dancing hours per day that I was an extremely late bloomer. I also agree that I have some serious doubts about some of those Chinese girls. Someone claims to have found birth records that would make one of them 14. I'm not even sure I buy that. I have my money on 10-12. -- Karen C - California Editor/Proofreader www.IntlProofingConsortium.com Finished 7/27/08 - MLI Christmas Visit WIP: Oriental Kimono (Janlynn), MLI The Teacher (gift to the library), Bethany Angel (Marbek) Retrieved from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel, MLI Farmers Market CFSfacts -- where we give you the facts and dispel the myths Myths, with research cites: http://www.aacfs.org/images/pdfs/myths.pdf Newest research blog: http://journals.aol.com/kmc528/Lifeasweknowit/ |
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ellice wrote:
At least they don't look like men - or the old German & Soviet athletes of the 60s-70s. German TV had an interview with a couple of "female" East German athletes a couple months ago. They say they were given "vitamin pills" by the team doctor, no idea what they were taking. Being good little Communists, they did what they were told and took the pills without asking questions. As adults, one got so frustrated with being called a man in a dress that she simply decided to dress as a man and not have to explain all the time. Another went all the way and had sex change surgery. Another died quite young of something likely caused by the steroids. -- Karen C - California Editor/Proofreader www.IntlProofingConsortium.com Finished 7/27/08 - MLI Christmas Visit WIP: Oriental Kimono (Janlynn), MLI The Teacher (gift to the library), Bethany Angel (Marbek) Retrieved from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel, MLI Farmers Market CFSfacts -- where we give you the facts and dispel the myths Myths, with research cites: http://www.aacfs.org/images/pdfs/myths.pdf Newest research blog: http://journals.aol.com/kmc528/Lifeasweknowit/ |
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While you stitch - who's watching the Olympics
Our TV hasn't been switched on for almost a year. We hear about the
Olympics on the radio and read about the Olympics but our newspapers are usually a couple of days late in arriving. We don't feel particularly deprived... -- Bruce Fletcher Stronsay, Orkney |
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Jangchub wrote:
I think this insane, frivilous training regimens are not healthy. I understand why we have the sport, but to completely stop your growth, stop menses due to no body fat and disrupt your ability to develop your body is a bit frightening to me. And the shock when it finally does develop.... My freshman roommate had been a gymnast -- quite good apparently, many hours a week in the gym. Both her parents were petite, so it was no concern to anyone that she was short. However, senior year of HS she blew out her knee, had surgery, and during the recuperation period when she was not allowed to do gymnastics, she put on a lot of weight, most of it in the chest. When she got back to the gym, she found out that it's extremely difficult to do gymnastics when your balance has to compensate for a pair of Ds up front. End of gymnastics career. -- Karen C - California Editor/Proofreader www.IntlProofingConsortium.com Finished 7/27/08 - MLI Christmas Visit WIP: Oriental Kimono (Janlynn), MLI The Teacher (gift to the library), Bethany Angel (Marbek) Retrieved from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel, MLI Farmers Market CFSfacts -- where we give you the facts and dispel the myths Myths, with research cites: http://www.aacfs.org/images/pdfs/myths.pdf Newest research blog: http://journals.aol.com/kmc528/Lifeasweknowit/ |
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Jangchub wrote:
My point is not to slam the sport. But this pushing and pushing and pushing is not healthy. When Olga Corbet and Nadia were in the sport and you could get a 10, it was fun to watch. Now the judges are not impartial, do carry prejudice, will react based on the home court effect and any number of things. Let's not rewrite history here. Nadia Comeneci was the first gymnast ever to get a perfect 10 at the Olympics. I don't think Olga Korbut ever did. But even (or perhaps, especially) then, the judges were not impartial, did carry prejudice, reacted based on home court effect, and often split along pro-Soviet/pro-US lines. Elizabeth -- *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~living well is the best revenge~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* The most important thing one woman can do for another is to illuminate and expand her sense of actual possibilities. --Adrienne Rich *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ *~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~* |
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While you stitch - who's watching the Olympics
On Aug 11, 9:31*am, Jangchub wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:18:54 -0400, Cheryl Isaak wrote: I'm trying to finish a little piece with palm trees but not getting very far. And which sports are you watching. I'm watching the swimming, the gymnastics and equestrian (when I can find it). I'll watch the track and field stuff when that coverage starts. - I stayed up to watch the Men's 100M relay swim; I'm rooting for Phelps to beat Mark Spitz record for gold medals in an Olympics even if I think Mark Spitz is cuter DS is making all sorts of comments about the Chinese female gymnasts - mostly that none of them look 16 more like 10 or 11. Told him that he should read (gasp, read a book) Little Girls in Pretty Boxes. It's about the training figure skaters and gymnasts go through and I can't imagine the Chinese are more gentle and certainly aim for the "girls in boys bodies" look. Most of the other teams seem to truly have 16+ girls on them. The Germans have a woman in her 30's and she was great. Cheryl So far I am trying to watch, but the coverage of beach volleyball seems to be overly obvious. *I can't find the equestrian, *the swmming is obnoxious with all the tabloid reporting, who cares, and the coverage is disgusting once again. *So I am bored to tears. One of those Chinese gymnasts looks ten years old and she is not the only one. *The pressure to win is not making it any fun to watch. Competition has become the sport, not the actual event. I am tired of men havinig suits which cover their ass cracks, but everry woman's event has them barely covering their crotch. *I have no idea how they are scoring using the new system, and I don't hear anyone explaininng it, either. Then there's the very unsportsmanship comments by the French and the whole thing is just a big bore. You now have my sugar coated version.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Now, Vic.....don't faint but I *agree* with you!! Years back I loved the Olympics, watched when available, and mostly followed the events by newspaper radio etc I lived outside London when we had the 1948 Olympics there. All the swimming stuff was practtised in our home town pool. Wembley was only a half-hour away, and most everyone HAD to use public transport.There was no media difficulties, and we followed the "strange" ( i.e. foreigners) in my town getting autographs. I believe the Olympics first, and major, step downhill was when it was no longer for amateurs; pros were allowed in, and it was never the same again! Since then the whole concept seems to have changed. It is commercialised, the number of medals is of prime importance, and the old concept of the Olympic Games is gone. It is a shame.....and I really cannot get thrilled over it. Gillian BTW, I noticed in the paper they only gave the positions of the Americans in various events, not who came Gols, Silver and Bronze. |
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On 8/11/08 9:58 PM, " wrote:
On Aug 11, 9:31*am, Jangchub wrote: On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 08:18:54 -0400, Cheryl Isaak wrote: I'm trying to finish a little piece with palm trees but not getting very far. And which sports are you watching. I'm watching the swimming, the gymnastics and equestrian (when I can find it). I'll watch the track and field stuff when that coverage starts. - I stayed up to watch the Men's 100M relay swim; I'm rooting for Phelps to beat Mark Spitz record for gold medals in an Olympics even if I think Mark Spitz is cuter DS is making all sorts of comments about the Chinese female gymnasts - mostly that none of them look 16 more like 10 or 11. Told him that he should read (gasp, read a book) Little Girls in Pretty Boxes. It's about the training figure skaters and gymnasts go through and I can't imagine the Chinese are more gentle and certainly aim for the "girls in boys bodies" look. Most of the other teams seem to truly have 16+ girls on them. The Germans have a woman in her 30's and she was great. Cheryl So far I am trying to watch, but the coverage of beach volleyball seems to be overly obvious. *I can't find the equestrian, *the swmming is obnoxious with all the tabloid reporting, who cares, and the coverage is disgusting once again. *So I am bored to tears. One of those Chinese gymnasts looks ten years old and she is not the only one. *The pressure to win is not making it any fun to watch. Competition has become the sport, not the actual event. I am tired of men havinig suits which cover their ass cracks, but everry woman's event has them barely covering their crotch. *I have no idea how they are scoring using the new system, and I don't hear anyone explaininng it, either. Then there's the very unsportsmanship comments by the French and the whole thing is just a big bore. You now have my sugar coated version.- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Now, Vic.....don't faint but I *agree* with you!! Years back I loved the Olympics, watched when available, and mostly followed the events by newspaper radio etc I lived outside London when we had the 1948 Olympics there. All the swimming stuff was practtised in our home town pool. Wembley was only a half-hour away, and most everyone HAD to use public transport.There was no media difficulties, and we followed the "strange" ( i.e. foreigners) in my town getting autographs. I believe the Olympics first, and major, step downhill was when it was no longer for amateurs; pros were allowed in, and it was never the same again! Since then the whole concept seems to have changed. It is commercialised, the number of medals is of prime importance, and the old concept of the Olympic Games is gone. It is a shame.....and I really cannot get thrilled over it. It's a shame in many respects. But, also a sign of the general times in that how would these athletes even staying basically amateur be supported to train, live while preparing without allowing them some financial support. It varies from sport to sport with what the international federations allow, within the limits of the IOC. I hate having pros in hockey in the winter - it stinks. Oh, well - it's still great to watch - if you follow sports. And to appreciate all those lesser paid skilled athletes. Gillian BTW, I noticed in the paper they only gave the positions of the Americans in various events, not who came Gols, Silver and Bronze. Too bad - what paper. The papers here have the full medal counts - though depending you may have to find details inside the sports section. Ellice |
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Jangchub wrote:
On Mon, 11 Aug 2008 23:51:45 +0100, "Bruce Fletcher (Stronsay, Orkney)" wrote: Our TV hasn't been switched on for almost a year. We hear about the Olympics on the radio and read about the Olympics but our newspapers are usually a couple of days late in arriving. We don't feel particularly deprived... You are not missing anything; if you were in the States. The coverage, as usual, stinks. I really don't like Bob Costas nor do I care for the smarmy commentary and ongoing and very annoying reporting on the details of just a few people. It's not Phelps' fault, but this is an American swim team. It's not the Phelps team. He's a nice kid and I'm happy he is winning. The NBC coverage, not so much. Pppbbblllffftt! You guys aren't alone in the partisan camp! Here in Oz, all we hear about is Libby Trickett and Grant Hackett (both swimmers) as if they were the only athletes competing on our behalf. Never mind that the Oz equestrian team is doing *marvellously* well against frightful odds. I think the TV would explode if we got more than the obligatory five minutes of coverage per week. It's no secret that I'm an equestrian tragic, but I'd like to see other sports as well. Last night, I had to sit up until 1am to see the gallant weightlifters from Colombia and Korea and China battle it out in the 62kg division. I know nothing about weightlifting, but gee it was great to watch! I wouldn't mind seeing the kayaking or the fencing or the taekwondo either, but all I get is a steady diet of swimming and beach volleyball. Hnnnnnnnhhh!!! NB. Here's two gems for you, courtesy of the Australian Olympic TV coverage: When the Oz team failed to win the women's 400m relay, an intelligent commentator remarked 'Not to bag the little 16-year-old new entry, but if she had only gotten off the block a fraction of a second more quickly, this race would've been in the bag for Libby Trickett.' Hellooo? It was a team relay race... An even more intelligent (?) commentator observed during Lucinda Fredericks' flawless dressage test 'A wag of the tail from the horse! That'll be points deducted for Lucinda!' AND HE WAS SERIOUS! |
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ellice wrote:
On 8/11/08 9:58 PM, " wrote: BTW, I noticed in the paper they only gave the positions of the Americans in various events, not who came Gols, Silver and Bronze. Too bad - what paper. The papers here have the full medal counts - though depending you may have to find details inside the sports section. Ellice Definitely depends on the paper. I've lived in places where the paper detailed who ate what for breakfast and I've lived in places where the paper simply printed results. Fortunately, nowadays, we're not limited by geography. If I don't like the coverage in my local paper, I can surf around till I find one that says more. There's also the "big fish in a little pond" factor. As I mentioned earlier, I downloaded a Spanish-language newspaper to help with the vocabulary on those events covered on Telemundo. Where the US is all about the medals, their local athletes were all hoping for nothing more than to beat their personal best, maybe set a national record. And their local coverage has been quite complimentary, finding pride in things like "lost, but hey, it wasn't a blowout" or "finished several places further back than Athens 2004, but did take a full second off our national record". -- Karen C - California Editor/Proofreader www.IntlProofingConsortium.com Finished 7/27/08 - MLI Christmas Visit WIP: Oriental Kimono (Janlynn), MLI The Teacher (gift to the library), Bethany Angel (Marbek) Retrieved from UFO pile: Marbek's Snow Angel, MLI Farmers Market CFSfacts -- where we give you the facts and dispel the myths Myths, with research cites: http://www.aacfs.org/images/pdfs/myths.pdf Newest research blog: http://journals.aol.com/kmc528/Lifeasweknowit/ |
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