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1/2 OT - subject of use of knitting needles as weapons
In article . com, "Susan
Carey" wrote: DD goes to college and lives in a town where she is constantly up against male catcalls, whistles and so on. This is as she rides her bike or walks the three miles to campus. Her boyfriend is teaching her boxing, she is taking Tae kwan do (SP) but I want her to carry a tiny knitting needle as a deterent. What is the opinion of the group? Will it fly? I know the dp 000 could do some damage to an eye, but is it legal? I am running over there on Thursday and want to take her one or several if you think it would stop anyone. I also suggested a circ as a garrot, but not sure if it would work if she was attacked by one of these bozos. They are mean and nasty folk in this town, and I do not want her to have to deal with the situation with violence, but if needed, want her well armed, legally. Susan Hello Susan Cat calls and being really attacted are two different things. I think it is a good idea that your daughter learns to defend herself, and that she is taught how to do that properly. How to not attract cat calls. I have no idea how you daugher dresses, but from what I have seen today on campus, many girls are dressed rather skimpely. I would say dressed to taunt and attract sexual interest from young males. It would be a good idea for her to carry a good wistle or have a loud horn on her bike. She should also always be aware what her escape routes are. Do you think that she will hold her own with a set of small knitting needles when a young male will attact her, or will she maybe make him so angry that she is in real trouble. Violence attract violence. I am sure that there are good guidance sources on campus to tell girls to stay one step ahead of being attacted. Try to cycle with a friend, the buddy system is a good one. Know where you are at all times. Have a cell phone with you to call for help. etc etc. I would never tell my daughters to have knitting needles with them to use as wapons, for fear that they will be used against them. In Canada it is illegal to carry concealed wapons, even if they are knitting needles. A catcall does not warrant a stabbed eye. How does your daughter feel about this all and does she have any good ideas on how to be ready if she does get attacted or get into trouble. Els |
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1/2 OT - subject of use of knitting needles as weapons
"Els van Dam" wrote in message
... In article . com, "Susan Carey" wrote: DD goes to college and lives in a town where she is constantly up against male catcalls, whistles and so on. This is as she rides her bike or walks the three miles to campus. Her boyfriend is teaching her boxing, she is taking Tae kwan do (SP) but I want her to carry a tiny knitting needle as a deterent. What is the opinion of the group? Will it fly? I know the dp 000 could do some damage to an eye, but is it legal? I am running over there on Thursday and want to take her one or several if you think it would stop anyone. I also suggested a circ as a garrot, but not sure if it would work if she was attacked by one of these bozos. They are mean and nasty folk in this town, and I do not want her to have to deal with the situation with violence, but if needed, want her well armed, legally. Susan snipped ahead of being attacted. Try to cycle with a friend, the buddy system is a good one. Know where you are at all times. Have a cell phone with you to call for help. etc etc. I would never tell my daughters to have knitting needles with them to use as wapons, for fear that they will be used against them. In Canada it is illegal to carry concealed wapons, even if they are knitting needles. I would not carry a knitting needle in my purse (or pocket if it is that small). Unless you have a knitting bag with you that you could possibly be working on, this would definitely be considered carrying a concealed weapon... and even if she was attacked and defended herself with the needle, things could be reversed and she could be the one charged with violence. However, if your daughter has long fingernails there is nothing wrong with carrying a nailfile. And she could also (if she is feeling uncomfortable like something might possibly happen) carry her keys in a way that at least one key is sticking out from between her fingers to use if she absolutely has to. For the most part though, I think the buddy system is best... my Mom used to always say "There is safety in numbers". People (girls) are less likely to be attacked if they have someone else with them, rather than if they are walking through a park or by an alley by themselves. Gemini |
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1/2 OT - subject of use of knitting needles as weapons
Good Advice , Els , God Bless Gwen
-- Gwen Kelly "Els van Dam" wrote in message ... In article . com, "Susan Carey" wrote: DD goes to college and lives in a town where she is constantly up against male catcalls, whistles and so on. This is as she rides her bike or walks the three miles to campus. Her boyfriend is teaching her boxing, she is taking Tae kwan do (SP) but I want her to carry a tiny knitting needle as a deterent. What is the opinion of the group? Will it fly? I know the dp 000 could do some damage to an eye, but is it legal? I am running over there on Thursday and want to take her one or several if you think it would stop anyone. I also suggested a circ as a garrot, but not sure if it would work if she was attacked by one of these bozos. They are mean and nasty folk in this town, and I do not want her to have to deal with the situation with violence, but if needed, want her well armed, legally. Susan Hello Susan Cat calls and being really attacted are two different things. I think it is a good idea that your daughter learns to defend herself, and that she is taught how to do that properly. How to not attract cat calls. I have no idea how you daugher dresses, but from what I have seen today on campus, many girls are dressed rather skimpely. I would say dressed to taunt and attract sexual interest from young males. It would be a good idea for her to carry a good wistle or have a loud horn on her bike. She should also always be aware what her escape routes are. Do you think that she will hold her own with a set of small knitting needles when a young male will attact her, or will she maybe make him so angry that she is in real trouble. Violence attract violence. I am sure that there are good guidance sources on campus to tell girls to stay one step ahead of being attacted. Try to cycle with a friend, the buddy system is a good one. Know where you are at all times. Have a cell phone with you to call for help. etc etc. I would never tell my daughters to have knitting needles with them to use as wapons, for fear that they will be used against them. In Canada it is illegal to carry concealed wapons, even if they are knitting needles. A catcall does not warrant a stabbed eye. How does your daughter feel about this all and does she have any good ideas on how to be ready if she does get attacted or get into trouble. Els |
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1/2 OT - subject of use of knitting needles as weapons
Just for the humorous record, Susie would not be caught dead with any
skin showing. She wears long sleeves all year round, no belly shows for her, and a bathing suit at the beach is fine as long as she is covered with towels the minute she comes from the water. She is a bit odd. I do appreciate all the comments and the good ideas. I just want her to be as safe as is possible without breaking the law. She and her room mate do not have classes at the same time. The busses run irratically if at all, so lone bike rides are pretty normal for her. It is on relatively busy streets, but as I said, without saying so, these rednecks are slovenly and gross. They are dirty and take pride in how they treat their women...all bad. So I do want her to be safe from them no matter what. Susan |
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"That's the man that attacked me, Officer. I can smell my cologne from
here!" sorry, had to be said. "Susan Carey" wrote in message oups.com... : Thanks for all the ideas and suggestions. One thing, though, she lives : in town where the rest of the poor town lives and works, while campus : and many if not most of the students are about 3 miles away. She does : not drive, so bicycle and walking are her modes of transportation. This : is her decision, but the fact is, I am not always so sure of her : decisions. I love the area where she lives, but they, she and her : roommate, have already been accosted by locals living nearby who were : asking for sexual favors and the like. She knew how to handle that, at : least temporarily, but when she brings up the negative things happening : on her way to and from school, I worry. I was thinking of the circ only : for in her home, but it might prove a backfire as someone mentioned. We : will be getting some pepper spray and in the mean time some nasty : deodorant. : : Thanks so much for this wonderful group! : : Susan : |
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1/2 OT - subject of use of knitting needles as weapons
In article .com, "Susan
Carey" wrote: Just for the humorous record, Susie would not be caught dead with any skin showing. She wears long sleeves all year round, no belly shows for her, and a bathing suit at the beach is fine as long as she is covered with towels the minute she comes from the water. She is a bit odd. I do appreciate all the comments and the good ideas. I just want her to be as safe as is possible without breaking the law. She and her room mate do not have classes at the same time. The busses run irratically if at all, so lone bike rides are pretty normal for her. It is on relatively busy streets, but as I said, without saying so, these rednecks are slovenly and gross. They are dirty and take pride in how they treat their women...all bad. So I do want her to be safe from them no matter what. Susan Susan, your daughter may be different, but she does not sound odd at all. I am a very liberal woman, and talk openly about all kinds of topics, I do think though that we have gone way over the top dressing wise. Both for men and women and Teens. I do think that it is not a good idea to come to classes half dressed, totally underestimating the strong sexual drives of teenagers. Great that she is different, sounds like she thinks for herself. She sould take a special class in self defense. I know that in some cities, you can go to the YWCA or even ask the police if they know of good classes being held in self defense. Often it is common sense. Letting a friend or buddy know where you are going to be, when you leave and plan to arrive etc. Good luck with this and certainly good that you are thinking about it that is half of your defense allready Els PS I do hope that this last bad storm will not hit Florida, it sounds very omnious when you hear what they are saying about Wilma Els |
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1/2 OT - subject of use of knitting needles as weapons
The Susy Lamplugh trust has some great advice on personal safety - the
website is here. This is why the trust was set up: "In 1986 estate agent Suzy Lamplugh, a 25 year old estate agent disappeared after she went to meet an unknown client. So far her body has not been found. However, she has been presumed murdered and legally declared dead. Her mother, Diana Lamplugh, believed that Suzy, like most people at that time - and even now - was simply unaware of the possible dangers that individuals can face in society. Together with her husband Paul, Diana founded the Trust to highlight the risks people face and to offer advice, action and support to minimise those risks." It is a very useful site! http://www.suzylamplugh.org/home/index.shtml Hope this helps Liz "Els van Dam" wrote in message ... In article .com, "Susan Carey" wrote: Just for the humorous record, Susie would not be caught dead with any skin showing. She wears long sleeves all year round, no belly shows for her, and a bathing suit at the beach is fine as long as she is covered with towels the minute she comes from the water. She is a bit odd. I do appreciate all the comments and the good ideas. I just want her to be as safe as is possible without breaking the law. She and her room mate do not have classes at the same time. The busses run irratically if at all, so lone bike rides are pretty normal for her. It is on relatively busy streets, but as I said, without saying so, these rednecks are slovenly and gross. They are dirty and take pride in how they treat their women...all bad. So I do want her to be safe from them no matter what. Susan Susan, your daughter may be different, but she does not sound odd at all. I am a very liberal woman, and talk openly about all kinds of topics, I do think though that we have gone way over the top dressing wise. Both for men and women and Teens. I do think that it is not a good idea to come to classes half dressed, totally underestimating the strong sexual drives of teenagers. Great that she is different, sounds like she thinks for herself. She sould take a special class in self defense. I know that in some cities, you can go to the YWCA or even ask the police if they know of good classes being held in self defense. Often it is common sense. Letting a friend or buddy know where you are going to be, when you leave and plan to arrive etc. Good luck with this and certainly good that you are thinking about it that is half of your defense allready Els PS I do hope that this last bad storm will not hit Florida, it sounds very omnious when you hear what they are saying about Wilma Els |
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1/2 OT - subject of use of knitting needles as weapons
In article , "Liz"
wrote: The Susy Lamplugh trust has some great advice on personal safety - the website is here. This is why the trust was set up: "In 1986 estate agent Suzy Lamplugh, a 25 year old estate agent disappeared after she went to meet an unknown client. So far her body has not been found. However, she has been presumed murdered and legally declared dead. Her mother, Diana Lamplugh, believed that Suzy, like most people at that time - and even now - was simply unaware of the possible dangers that individuals can face in society. Together with her husband Paul, Diana founded the Trust to highlight the risks people face and to offer advice, action and support to minimise those risks." It is a very useful site! http://www.suzylamplugh.org/home/index.shtml Hope this helps Liz Lucky and Good for us, the above is not the rule but the exception to the rule. For woman the buddy system is a good one, but even so, let it be known that violence, abductions, and murders are first and foremost a family affair, or close friends affairs. That is so in the States as well as in Canada. I still want to give this question and debate a possitive swing. Lets be allert, and educated in looking after ourselves, that will get you a long way. Els |
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Els van Dam wrote:
In article , "Liz" wrote: The Susy Lamplugh trust has some great advice on personal safety - the website is here. This is why the trust was set up: "In 1986 estate agent Suzy Lamplugh, a 25 year old estate agent disappeared after she went to meet an unknown client. So far her body has not been found. However, she has been presumed murdered and legally declared dead. Her mother, Diana Lamplugh, believed that Suzy, like most people at that time - and even now - was simply unaware of the possible dangers that individuals can face in society. Together with her husband Paul, Diana founded the Trust to highlight the risks people face and to offer advice, action and support to minimise those risks." It is a very useful site! http://www.suzylamplugh.org/home/index.shtml Hope this helps Liz Lucky and Good for us, the above is not the rule but the exception to the rule. For woman the buddy system is a good one, but even so, let it be known that violence, abductions, and murders are first and foremost a family affair, or close friends affairs. That is so in the States as well as in Canada. I still want to give this question and debate a possitive swing. Lets be allert, and educated in looking after ourselves, that will get you a long way. Hear, hear, Els! Katherine |
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Apologies if this post came accross badly - it was intended to be helpful,
in giving the name of a site that had some useful advice on personal safety. On reading it again, I realise it could easily be misunderstood. I hope you'll understand that it wasn't my intention to scare anyone, and I hope it doesn't put anyone off the site! Best wishes Liz "Katherine" wrote in message ... Els van Dam wrote: In article , "Liz" wrote: The Susy Lamplugh trust has some great advice on personal safety - the website is here. This is why the trust was set up: Together with her husband Paul, Diana founded the Trust to highlight the risks people face and to offer advice, action and support to minimise those risks." It is a very useful site! http://www.suzylamplugh.org/home/index.shtml Hope this helps Liz Lucky and Good for us, the above is not the rule but the exception to the rule. For woman the buddy system is a good one, but even so, let it be known that violence, abductions, and murders are first and foremost a family affair, or close friends affairs. That is so in the States as well as in Canada. I still want to give this question and debate a possitive swing. Lets be allert, and educated in looking after ourselves, that will get you a long way. Hear, hear, Els! Katherine |
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