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And I will say openly and with pride that I wouldn't have anything to do
with the ACLU. Investigate them for yourself. "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... Excuse me waht is ACLU ? mirjam never heard this , nore read this ,. On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 23:49:01 GMT, animaux wrote: Okay, before I take the test I will say openly and with pride that, I am a full fledged, card carrying member of the ACLU and firmly on the left side of the aisle, as well as being liberal. Let's see where the test puts me. V On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:06:41 -0600, Dianne Lewandowski opined: A few months back, someone posted a site with a test to see where you were at on the political scale: right or left. The following site does this a little better, has some interesting statements to make about social and economic "visions", past and current global leaders and where they are in the spector. For those interested in this issue, take the test and read the documentation. I found it fascinating. The questions intriguing, and often times difficult to answer. http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/poli...ass/index.html |
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I might admire the strength of their convictions, but not the subject there
of! Cheryl On 1/9/04 10:39 AM, in article , "mondaymorning" wrote: And I will say openly and with pride that I wouldn't have anything to do with the ACLU. Investigate them for yourself. "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... Excuse me waht is ACLU ? mirjam never heard this , nore read this ,. On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 23:49:01 GMT, animaux wrote: Okay, before I take the test I will say openly and with pride that, I am a full fledged, card carrying member of the ACLU and firmly on the left side of the aisle, as well as being liberal. Let's see where the test puts me. V On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:06:41 -0600, Dianne Lewandowski opined: A few months back, someone posted a site with a test to see where you were at on the political scale: right or left. The following site does this a little better, has some interesting statements to make about social and economic "visions", past and current global leaders and where they are in the spector. For those interested in this issue, take the test and read the documentation. I found it fascinating. The questions intriguing, and often times difficult to answer. http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/poli...ass/index.html |
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Excuse me waht is
ACLU ? mirjam never heard this , nore read this ,. On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 23:49:01 GMT, animaux wrote: Okay, before I take the test I will say openly and with pride that, I am a full fledged, card carrying member of the ACLU and firmly on the left side of the aisle, as well as being liberal. Let's see where the test puts me. V On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:06:41 -0600, Dianne Lewandowski opined: A few months back, someone posted a site with a test to see where you were at on the political scale: right or left. The following site does this a little better, has some interesting statements to make about social and economic "visions", past and current global leaders and where they are in the spector. For those interested in this issue, take the test and read the documentation. I found it fascinating. The questions intriguing, and often times difficult to answer. http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/poli...ass/index.html |
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Do you really believe that any test , on political isues , or even
political placing , can be tottaly Objective??? several of my friends who are Statisticans , or socilogical experts, showed me , several times how questionaires can be manoeuvred. It all depends of how Excatly the questions are phrased. Any way i stil wonder , out of curiousity , why one needs a questionaire toi knowc where one stands politicly??? and who is to decide what is considered left ? or right ? or central, and last but not lleast , if you didn`t know which side you were politicly how did you vote ??? Aren`t you supposed to read ask and ponder in your conscience about such matters, And is a probably at least partly `planned to influence` your opinions test` really what you need ? or do you take such tests instead of really trying to understand , your government or your chosen party , plans to do . On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 16:49:15 -0600, Dianne Lewandowski wrote: But I don't know how you found this slanted . . . since you could answer either way. The questions seemed to me well rounded: from religion to economics to race to gays to child rearing. I'm mean, if you're a roaring right, left, libertarian or (forgot the other one) - your answers would indicate that, wouldn't they? I mean, Hussein wouldn't answer the questions the same way??? Or am I missing what you're getting at? On another test I took that someone posted, I was a centrist. I shore wasn't on this one. g Which should warn you to the possibility that they are planed to influence your vote if not your opinions , |
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Actually, homemaker and mother go hand in hand. You can't do one
without the other. Sure you can. My younger daughter is a full time homemaker, and has no children. Jere |
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"mondaymorning" wrote in message om... I went to the site and took the test. I felt that the some of the questions were not worded in a way that answers could be given correctly. One example was: Mothers may have careers but their first duty is to be homemakers. One was to answer agree or disagree. I don't think anyone's first duty is to be a homemaker but I sure do think anyone who is a Mother has a duty to put that job first. Being a homemaker and a Mother are not the same thing. There were many other questions which presented the same dilemma. So I got fixed in a position....but was it accurate? I don't think so. "Dianne Lewandowski" wrote in message ... A few months back, someone posted a site with a test to see where you were at on the political scale: right or left. The following site does this a little better, has some interesting statements to make about social and economic "visions", past and current global leaders and where they are in the spector. For those interested in this issue, take the test and read the documentation. I found it fascinating. The questions intriguing, and often times difficult to answer. http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/poli...ass/index.html It seemed to have a lot of questions that were stated in such a way to "push" the answerer left/anti-authoritarian. I would love to have my old poli-sci statistics professor go through the questions and do a bias analysis. It would be very interesting. Given th politician that it placed my answers closest to (Gerhart Schroeder), I hope it wasn't accurate. |
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The structure of a questionnaire/test definitely has an effect upon the
results. I'm in grad school right now and have studied this in at least two classes. If you want to see more divided results, you don't give a neutral answer choice. Having the positive or negative choice first in the list also makes a difference, as does the order of questions. A general rule of thumb is to put the questions that people are least likely to answer at the end of the questionnaire because they tend to stop upon encountering such a question, and so on. As Mirjam said, "Do you really believe that any test , on political isues , or even political placing , can be tottaly Objective???" It's impossible to write one that's completely unbiased. Meredith mondaymorning wrote: I went to the site and took the test. I felt that the some of the questions were not worded in a way that answers could be given correctly. One example was: Mothers may have careers but their first duty is to be homemakers. One was to answer agree or disagree. I don't think anyone's first duty is to be a homemaker but I sure do think anyone who is a Mother has a duty to put that job first. Being a homemaker and a Mother are not the same thing. There were many other questions which presented the same dilemma. So I got fixed in a position....but was it accurate? I don't think so. "Dianne Lewandowski" wrote in message ... A few months back, someone posted a site with a test to see where you were at on the political scale: right or left. The following site does this a little better, has some interesting statements to make about social and economic "visions", past and current global leaders and where they are in the spector. For those interested in this issue, take the test and read the documentation. I found it fascinating. The questions intriguing, and often times difficult to answer. http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/poli...ass/index.html |
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Well, the questions were succinct, weren't they? Both my husband and I
had trouble with several of the questions. I stood before this question, with the word "homemaker" and pondered it for a very long time. Perhaps we don't HAVE a current word? And perhaps the collective you are redefining it by rejecting what it used to stand for. Or splitting hairs about the definition. I'm not accusing you of this, just commiserating about why the question was phrased this way. It really, really made you think long and hard. But if you stop to think of it, this country (U.S.) is fractured about this issue. So perhaps it was worded just right. g Dianne mondaymorning wrote: I don't hate the word "homemaker" at all. I just don't see it the way you do. My belief is that you may or may not be in the business world and still be or not be a good mother or homemaker. Homemaker to me implies taking care of a home. Mother is taking care of child. I see people who are terrible homemakers but wonderful Mothers and also terrible Mothers but wonderful homemakers. Everyone is a homemaker in some form unless they are fortunate enough to be waited on hand and foot. My problem with the question was that for me, it was two questions in one which would have been answered differently. I answered it by disregarding the second part of the question. I went back to the site after Cheryl's post and did some digging. If you read the "FAQ's" page, most of this is answered. Actually, homemaker and mother go hand in hand. You can't do one without the other. It's the word you hate? Yes, you can put the kid in day care, hire a housekeeper, see the child between work and bedtime, and still be a mother and care about your child. But the question made you stop and think. The FAQ page answers some of this. I'm not saying you're wrong, but either you think children come first above all else and you stay with them (homemaker) or you slightly agree, or slightly disagree or strongly favor one side or the other. If you are being forced to work because of economic times, that won't change your opinion on how you feel it SHOULD be done. Feminists are equating work with freedom, and in my personal opinion, that's rather upside down thinking. I'm going back there today to read a few other pages which I just glossed over yesterday. As the site says: this will get dialogue going, which is so important. I was SHOCKED to see Dean just to the left of Bush. Who fared as a libertarian-left? Kucinich! I'll have to dig further. grin Dianne mondaymorning wrote: I went to the site and took the test. I felt that the some of the questions were not worded in a way that answers could be given correctly. One example was: Mothers may have careers but their first duty is to be homemakers. One was to answer agree or disagree. I don't think anyone's first duty is to be a homemaker but I sure do think anyone who is a Mother has a duty to put that job first. Being a homemaker and a Mother are not the same thing. There were many other questions which presented the same dilemma. So I got fixed in a position....but was it accurate? I don't think so. "Dianne Lewandowski" wrote in message ... A few months back, someone posted a site with a test to see where you were at on the political scale: right or left. The following site does this a little better, has some interesting statements to make about social and economic "visions", past and current global leaders and where they are in the spector. For those interested in this issue, take the test and read the documentation. I found it fascinating. The questions intriguing, and often times difficult to answer. http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/poli...ass/index.html |
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You might not feel that way if you were forced by a perspective employer
to urinate in front of someone in order to get a job. When the perspective employer (hospital) wouldn't allow a blood test that is more accurate, even if the perspective employee was willing to pay for it. It's always easy to dislike something when you don't personally need it. The ACLU took our case. We dropped it because of a forced 300-mile move in order to eat and have a roof over our head. Changes were eventually made in the law. However, under certain vague circumstances, you can STILL be forced. Dianne mondaymorning wrote: And I will say openly and with pride that I wouldn't have anything to do with the ACLU. Investigate them for yourself. "Mirjam Bruck-Cohen" wrote in message ... Excuse me waht is ACLU ? mirjam never heard this , nore read this ,. On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 23:49:01 GMT, animaux wrote: Okay, before I take the test I will say openly and with pride that, I am a full fledged, card carrying member of the ACLU and firmly on the left side of the aisle, as well as being liberal. Let's see where the test puts me. V On Thu, 08 Jan 2004 15:06:41 -0600, Dianne Lewandowski opined: A few months back, someone posted a site with a test to see where you were at on the political scale: right or left. The following site does this a little better, has some interesting statements to make about social and economic "visions", past and current global leaders and where they are in the spector. For those interested in this issue, take the test and read the documentation. I found it fascinating. The questions intriguing, and often times difficult to answer. http://www.digitalronin.f2s.com/poli...ass/index.html |
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I stand humbly corrected. g There goes my bias. I thought the
question included chldren in the mix. Another point of view. Glad you posted! Dianne Dukkum wrote: Actually, homemaker and mother go hand in hand. You can't do one without the other. Sure you can. My younger daughter is a full time homemaker, and has no children. Jere |
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