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On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 09:01:11 -0800, lemelman
wrote: Abrasha wrote: "Simplicity is the most difficult thing to achieve" Gae Aulenti, architect Mathematicians call it "elegance". And, in mathematical terms, Elegance = Beauty/Complexity. -- Al Balmer Sun City, AZ |
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 17:51:22 -0800, Al Balmer wrote:
On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 09:01:11 -0800, lemelman wrote: Abrasha wrote: "Simplicity is the most difficult thing to achieve" Gae Aulenti, architect Mathematicians call it "elegance". And, in mathematical terms, Elegance = Beauty/Complexity. ______________________________________________ I agree with you and Gary -- about mathematics. Many schools of visual art, however, revel in complexity and the ratio you gave does not apply. The many traditions that employ horror vacui are an example. Other important schools and traditions abhor the good-art-must-be-difficult philosophy. The Aulenti quote reminds me of Artforum magazine theory circa 1960's -- _if_ she actually intended more than she said. We didn't get a context with the quote, or a place we can go to get it. Strong aphorisms that are meant to apply outside a narrow school are now in question, and things that are simple or difficult to make are not necessarily of good quality. I like some jewelers whose work has very simple lines and might be called minimalist; Dinsmore and Enterline come to mind, and their work _is_ elegant. What I definitely don't like is most of the minimalist crap they sell in the malls. BTW, we're on the second year of the S. Airwaves in the U.S. are again saturated with advertisements for little 'S's of diamonds by several manufacturers. I imagine either you or Gary could come up with a lot better things to do with diamonds. -- mbstevens http://www.mbstevens.com |
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On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:30:29 -0800, mbstevens
wrote: Many schools of visual art, however, revel in complexity and the ratio you gave does not apply. Sure it does. Those works may have beauty, but they don't have elegance. A 177 facet Portuguese cut gem stone may be beautiful, but Jeff Graham's 41 facet Raja is elegant. -- Al Balmer Sun City, AZ |
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:36:13 -0800, in rec.crafts.jewelry Al Balmer
wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:30:29 -0800, mbstevens wrote: Many schools of visual art, however, revel in complexity and the ratio you gave does not apply. Sure it does. Those works may have beauty, but they don't have elegance. A 177 facet Portuguese cut gem stone may be beautiful, but Jeff Graham's 41 facet Raja is elegant. Seems to me that the basic problem with such statements and formulas is that beauty and elegance, are subjective values in nature. What is elegant to one, may be less so to another. Same with beauty. Makes it harder to use math to try and describe it all... Using math to find a "theory of everything" seems to be a bit of a stumbling block elsewhere, too... physics, astronomy, quantum mechanics... Peter |
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On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:41:53 -0800, Peter W. Rowe
wrote: On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 07:36:13 -0800, in rec.crafts.jewelry Al Balmer wrote: On Mon, 08 Dec 2008 22:30:29 -0800, mbstevens wrote: Many schools of visual art, however, revel in complexity and the ratio you gave does not apply. Sure it does. Those works may have beauty, but they don't have elegance. A 177 facet Portuguese cut gem stone may be beautiful, but Jeff Graham's 41 facet Raja is elegant. Seems to me that the basic problem with such statements and formulas is that beauty and elegance, are subjective values in nature. What is elegant to one, may be less so to another. Same with beauty. Of course, and such things have been philosophized for millennia. However, I think it's still legitimate to try to qualify the *relationships* involved, without attempting to quantify anything. Of course, here we're talking of elegance as an aesthetic value, not the "She is an elegant lady" meaning. No absolute answers, but worth discussing. -- Al Balmer Sun City, AZ |
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mbstevens wrote:
The Aulenti quote reminds me of Artforum magazine theory circa 1960's -- _if_ she actually intended more than she said. We didn't get a context with the quote, or a place we can go to get it. San Francisco Chronicle, Tuesday, July 15, 1997 http://tinyurl.com/6325la Design for a Museum Skylights, piazza in Asian Art's plans "In Gae Aulenti's dramatic design for the new Asian Art Museum at Civic Center, the old Main Library has been transformed into an open, light-filled space. A skylighted piazza wraps around the grand staircase and loggia of the historic Beaux Arts building. ``We're preserving the building but giving it a new heart,'' said the Italian architect, who revealed her design for the new Asian yesterday." .... "Designing the piazza and galleries, Aulenti was influenced by the simplicity and purity of Asian art. ``Simplicity is the most difficult thing to achieve.''" -- Abrasha http://www.abrasha.com |
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its really great event. I will certainly go to have a look for it.
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