Spanish Singer Manual?

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Nowadays she would be, but this was thirty years ago. I think she
retired after the school year ended in 1974. I know she had been with
the school for more than 30 years.
The films she showed were not her personal property but belonged to
the school or were gotten via interschool loan (BOCES for you NY
people). My class was probably one of the last to see them. Good
thing too! Some of them were just horrid, kind of like Reefer Madness
meets Birth of a Nation with a healthy dose of anti-semitism and
general xenophobia tossed in. Very icky. Then of course there was the
tragic tale of poor Sally. She ran with a fast crowd, got drunk,
stayed out all night, and her life was over. She now had a reputaion
as a loose woman and was doomed to live alone and wait tables for the
rest of her life. Made me very happy I was not living in what
appeared to be the early 40's (judging by the hairstyles and the
fashions).

NightMist
admiring her long black nails and thinking of prim Mrs. P with a smirk

On Thu, 19 May 2005 16:38:18 -0500, "SNIGDIBBLY"
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Mrs. P should be brought up on charges of discrimination. I really wonder
where some of he teachers of yesteryear got their education. She was
teaching personal values and not Home Ec. Good Lord, preserve us from
bigots like that.

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On Thu, 19 May 2005 12:06:32 GMT, "Polly Esther"
wrote:

The home ec teacher burden carries forward from generation to
generation.
Mine demanded that we learn how to mend runs in our nylon stockings.
Really.
With a needle and brown thread.

My home ec teaher seemed almost disappointed that I already knew how
to darn knits. Our sewing projects weren't too bad though. A tote
bag and a skirt. She seemed more concerned with making all of us cut
off our nails, swear to wear no nail polish darker than pink, and
showing horrible movies about the bad things that would happen to you
if you ever had sex, or if you "mixed" with persons of other races.
Made me wonder if lightening was going to strike me right there in
class.
Hey Teresa! Did you ever have Mrs P for home ec?

When DS's shop class was swapped over to a home ec class for a six
weeks
stint, they were all instructed to make white satin ring bearer pillows.
Imagine that.
The grandson's class was to learn to make biscuits. Biscuit making
takes
decades of practice and is a fine art. It would have been so much better
if
she had taught them how to approach a load of laundry.

I reckon your DGS does better with what he learned to bake than he
would with a box of Jiffy Mix.
Our school didn't do laundry in class till high school. The washer
and dryer were both in the high school home ec room.
We did make biscuits though. She taught us how to make our own mix.
Mix flour with some baking powder and a smidge of salt and put it in
jars in the pantry. That and chocolate chip cookies were all that we
cooked. When we got the new teacher in my last year of home ec we did
no sewing, but a lot of embroidery, and made pizza and sugar cookies.
We did get lots of instruction on the proper ways to do a fair many
general housekeeping tasks.

I still fold my towels by the home ec teacher's demand. Lengthwise
in
thirds, then in half and half again.

You know it just occured to me, so do I

NightMist


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PS:

Threading diagram:


http://www.sewusa.com/Threading_Diag..._threading.htm

This place may be able to do one for you:

http://www.sewconsult.com/id24.htm

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That would probably last us for days!!

Maureen, admitting that her home ec teacher was pretty good, although
the machine was not.

Betsy Ross wrote:


Should we start another thread on the odd things the Physical Education
teachers said and did?

Susan

I loved home ec.

In Jr. High is was broken down into several classes. There was "foods"
where we learned to cook and such. We made things like banana bread,
cake from scratch, baked alaska and potato salad that I can recall. We
also had to do a demo by cooking something and chatting away while doing
it. I suppose we could have started our own food network.

Then there was stitchery where we did needlepoint and embroidery and
such.

Also there was sewing. We had to make a notebook with samples of
different stitches (which I recently found) and sew projects. We got to
pick our project but by the end of the semester had to have done certain
things like a collar and a button/button hole, zipper and collar. So
you could pick a shirt and take care of the collar and buttons etc.
Didn't matter what you did as long as your projects covered the required
skills. Second year sewing we had to do a suit - jacket, skirt, pants
and top. I remember having to wear that to school as part of the grade.
We also learned to make a quilt block from our scraps and put them all
together into one quilt that we tied and bound. There was a drawing for
who got to keep the quilt.

Classes were fun, the teacher was wonderful and we learned lots. I
think you only had to have a semester of home ec and you could choose
which class you wanted to take. Any extras were electives.

marcella

My home-ec teacher was a real stickler for washing dishes in class. We
were to wash glasses first, then utensils, followed by plates, then pots
and pans. After washing the dishes, the sink was to be scrubbed down
with cleanser, then wiped dry. Woe be to the person who wavered from
this order.

Many years later I worked with this teacher's sister-in-law. She
cracked up when I told her how strict Mrs. M. was in class about washing
dishes. She said that in real life Mrs. M. was a slob and probably
washed her dishes once a month, whether she needed to or not.

Denise

On Thu, 19 May 2005 10:40:20 +0100, Kate Dicey
wrote:

NightMist wrote:

DD#3 is in her term of home ec at school and they have come up on what
passes for a sewing module.
She has been partnered with a girl who does not speak any english yet.
They are getting by so far useing pantomime and what few words each
has in the other's language.
It would be amazingly helpful though if they had a manual for their
sewing machine in spanish. It seems the teacher's instructions
haven't been much use even if you understand english, and she and her
classmates have been relying heavily on the manuals to learn how to
perform such arduous tasks as threading the things. DD was a bit
ahead of the game since she has used my machines, but beyond basic
threading and general function the resemblance is slim.

So, does anyone know where to find a manual in spanish for a Singer
9410? I've been to the singer site and they only have them in
english.

I'll have a poke about and see what I can come up with...

I confess I am a bit annoyed with the teacher. She has not given out
the usual discount cards for Joanns, she has banned cotton thread, and
she is insisting that fabric be 45" in width exactly. Yes, she sent
home the 44" fabric that I already sent in, as well as the Metrosene
that I sent with it. She said the thread was too silky and that it
would fray and mess up the machine (she must be so new she is still
wet behind the ears!). This is way too much fuss for a pair of boxer
shorts.

Please PLEASE let me boggle... BBOOGGGGGLLEE!!!! But but but...
44"/45" - where's the difference? ALL the 44/45 inch fabric I see for
sale has 'approx' written on the ticket! NOTHING is EXACTLY 45" wide,
except by cheer chance! Does this silly woman have so little experience
she does not know this? Let's face it, anything labelled 45" is going
to waver somewhere between 44" and 46" down the 50+m length it's woven in!

As for the thread... Well, words fail! Has she never heard of like
with like? Cotton thread for cotton fabric, poly for artificial fibres,
and poly mixes, silk for silk and cotton or silk for wool? And I've
never heard of Metrosene doing that, except with a damaged needle.
Maybe she doesn't know that needles need to be changed? Dearie me, what
DO they teach them these day... Kate goes off shaking head and muttering

And yes, this is WAAAAY too much fuss for boxer shorts. Erm... Who is
supposed to WEAR the boxers? Or are they for display only? Giggle

For the last couple of years all the teens and young adults have been
wearing boxers, girls too. Sometimes as underwear, sometimes as outer
wear. Those ugly mens sleeveless tank top style white undershirts
seem to be all the rage for teen girl's outer wear now too.
Personally I don't consider my grandpa's underwear to be high fashion,
but evidently they do. My best guess for the future of fashion is
that their daughters will be wearing tightie-whities (Y-fronts to you
in the UK) as outer wear before the year 2020. ;-D

Good on your DD for taking on this project, and good on you both for
trying to find a manual the other lass can understand. Manuals in the
UK often come with French, German, Spanish and/or other languages in
them besides English.

Debra in VA

Nightmist, I would be happy to translate the essential parts...

NightMist wrote:
On Thu, 19 May 2005 10:40:20 +0100, Kate Dicey
wrote:


NightMist wrote:


I confess I am a bit annoyed with the teacher. She has not given out
the usual discount cards for Joanns, she has banned cotton thread, and
she is insisting that fabric be 45" in width exactly. Yes, she sent
home the 44" fabric that I already sent in, as well as the Metrosene
that I sent with it. She said the thread was too silky and that it
would fray and mess up the machine (she must be so new she is still
wet behind the ears!). This is way too much fuss for a pair of boxer
shorts.

Please PLEASE let me boggle... BBOOGGGGGLLEE!!!! But but but...
44"/45" - where's the difference? ALL the 44/45 inch fabric I see for
sale has 'approx' written on the ticket! NOTHING is EXACTLY 45" wide,
except by cheer chance! Does this silly woman have so little experience
she does not know this? Let's face it, anything labelled 45" is going
to waver somewhere between 44" and 46" down the 50+m length it's woven in!


She said that it was 42 not 44 and that that was too far off.
The thing that blew my mind was the thought of her sitting down and
measureing all the yardage that came in for the class!
I have a couple of yards of 48" muslin that I will dye to DD's
preference and send in. If it comes out to wide after shrink, well we
can just whip out the handy dandy rotary cutter and trim the darn
selvedge edges off!


As for the thread... Well, words fail! Has she never heard of like
with like? Cotton thread for cotton fabric, poly for artificial fibres,
and poly mixes, silk for silk and cotton or silk for wool? And I've
never heard of Metrosene doing that, except with a damaged needle.
Maybe she doesn't know that needles need to be changed? Dearie me, what
DO they teach them these day... Kate goes off shaking head and muttering


She says that cotton will fuzz and jam the machine.
Bless her heart, she must be thinking that those heavy duty industrial
models they are working with are delicate. She must be a fragile
flower indeed! If she sends back my muslin saying that it will fuzz
and jam the machine, I am getting out the agent orange.


And yes, this is WAAAAY too much fuss for boxer shorts. Erm... Who is
supposed to WEAR the boxers? Or are they for display only? Giggle


Girls wear boxer shorts.
I must confess, this is one bit of unisex fashion that I have a rough
time wrapping my brain around. I mean, I don't understand why _men_
wear them. They seem to be so loose that they would get all bunchy
and wadded and be dreadfully uncomfy. Now as summer jammy bottoms
they make all kinds of sense, but as underthings? *boggle*
I'm figureing that once she has sorted out the boxers in school, I
will show her how to modify them and let her make some shorts for
summer. She has some sewing experience, she made stuffed animals for
Christmas (I am still boxing her ears regularly to get her to send
thank you notes for gifted fur), and has made doll sized quilts. She
also has a crazy quilt she has been working on for years now.

Good on your DD for taking on this project, and good on you both for
trying to find a manual the other lass can understand. Manuals in the
UK often come with French, German, Spanish and/or other languages in
them besides English.


Modern manuals here often come with a wide range of languages too.
I expect that these machines are either several years old, or ordered
en masse with a language preference specified. Maybe both.

I have suggested to DD that she take the most important bits of the
manual, bobbin winding, foot changeing etc. to the spanish teacher to
see if they can get any help there. Maybe with a bit of conversation
and note taking they can muddle through. DD is supposed to be
learning spanish anyway. (G)
Gonna see if I can find the whole thing translated anyway. Good
learning for both of them in the long run.

NightMist


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On Thu, 19 May 2005 07:36:13 GMT, (NightMist)
wrote:

So, does anyone know where to find a manual in spanish for a Singer
9410? I've been to the singer site and they only have them in
english.

I wish I could help with a manual. I think it's great that your DD,
and now you too, are trying to help the other girl learn to sew.

I confess I am a bit annoyed with the teacher. She has not given out
the usual discount cards for Joanns, she has banned cotton thread, and
she is insisting that fabric be 45" in width exactly. Yes, she sent
home the 44" fabric that I already sent in, as well as the Metrosene
that I sent with it. She said the thread was too silky and that it
would fray and mess up the machine (she must be so new she is still
wet behind the ears!). This is way too much fuss for a pair of boxer
shorts.

NightMist

I wouldn't be annoyed about a lack of discount coupons for a store
that may not be supplying them to the school this year. That is
probably beyond the teacher's control. I'd be annoyed at the teacher,
who probably has never sewn anything in her life, for not at least
borrowing a library book and reading the basics before trying to teach
a sewing class. If she had ever sewn before, or read any basic how to
sew book, she would know cotton fabric is sewn with cotton thread and
45 inch wide fabric rarely is actually 45 inches wide.
Debra in VA

Seventh grade Home Ec., beginning sewing. Our projects could be any
article of clothing as long as it had a button and button hole and a
finished hem. I was 13 and very sure I could sew anything I set my
mind to. After all, I had spent hours watching mom sew and she had
even let me sew a few simple things myself. In ignorance, and with
great enthusiasm, I picked a garment pattern and the cloth. Mom did
what she could to try to sway me towards something else but I wouldn't
change my mind at all. My teacher informed me that a beginner could
not possibly finish it in time to be graded and that she wouldn't have
time to help me with it if I ran into problems, but I insisted I could
do it myself just fine. The only part I needed help with was the
pattern lay out anyway. That seemed to take forever, but it was worth
the trouble.

My first project was an Oxford shirt and the material was a nice shirt
weight cotton in a tiny blue and white plaid. It was graded B+. I
wore it proudly for the rest of the year.

That was the only time ever I owned an Oxford shirt had the right
length sleeve for my arms.
Debra in VA

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Seventh grade Home Ec., beginning sewing. Our projects could be any
article of clothing as long as it had a button and button hole and a
finished hem. I was 13 and very sure I could sew anything I set my
mind to. After all, I had spent hours watching mom sew and she had
even let me sew a few simple things myself. In ignorance, and with
great enthusiasm, I picked a garment pattern and the cloth. Mom did
what she could to try to sway me towards something else but I wouldn't
change my mind at all. My teacher informed me that a beginner could
not possibly finish it in time to be graded and that she wouldn't have
time to help me with it if I ran into problems, but I insisted I could
do it myself just fine. The only part I needed help with was the
pattern lay out anyway. That seemed to take forever, but it was worth
the trouble.

My first project was an Oxford shirt and the material was a nice shirt
weight cotton in a tiny blue and white plaid. It was graded B+. I
wore it proudly for the rest of the year.

That was the only time ever I owned an Oxford shirt had the right
length sleeve for my arms.

Whilst at university I decided to make my own clothes to save money. I
didn't have a sewing machine so I sewed by hand. The first thing I made
was a lined jacket. If I knew then what I know now I never would have
attempted it, but luckily I was ignorant so it turned out really well
and I wore it for years. One of the greatest gifts my mother gave me was
the confidence to try anything. What's the worst that can happen?
--
M Rimmer

I didn't have Home Ec in school, but really wanted to learn to sew, so my
mom let me take classes at the Singer Sewing Machine store near our house.
My first project was an oxford shirt as well - with patches on the elbow & a
plaid pleated skirt, with the big safety pin on the side. The teacher about
had a heart attack when I showed up with my fabric & patterns. I had a lot
of help, but they turned out well & for me too, it was the first time my
sleeves touched my wrists, cause I have such long arms. I never attemped
either project again, but made most of my clothes from about 12 until I was
in my early 30's. I always thought I'd make a quilt, so one day, I took all
my scraps & cut them into about 12" squares. I had all sorts of fabrics cut
out - wool, cotton, jersey - sounds like a crazy quilt, huh?? I never put
it together (thankfully)

Pauline
"Debra" wrote in message
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Seventh grade Home Ec., beginning sewing. Our projects could be any
article of clothing as long as it had a button and button hole and a
finished hem. I was 13 and very sure I could sew anything I set my
mind to. After all, I had spent hours watching mom sew and she had
even let me sew a few simple things myself. In ignorance, and with
great enthusiasm, I picked a garment pattern and the cloth. Mom did
what she could to try to sway me towards something else but I wouldn't
change my mind at all. My teacher informed me that a beginner could
not possibly finish it in time to be graded and that she wouldn't have
time to help me with it if I ran into problems, but I insisted I could
do it myself just fine. The only part I needed help with was the
pattern lay out anyway. That seemed to take forever, but it was worth
the trouble.

My first project was an Oxford shirt and the material was a nice shirt
weight cotton in a tiny blue and white plaid. It was graded B+. I
wore it proudly for the rest of the year.

That was the only time ever I owned an Oxford shirt had the right
length sleeve for my arms.
Debra in VA